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Fortuna Saga, one of the few good sprite comics, has BIG NEWS!

HOLY BLOODY CRAP! Not only do we get more FFVI, but we get what's basically a solid guarantee that it WON'T SUCK! Because the comic is, well... really good. I think I can safely say that it's okay to relase a fanboyish "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!" right about now, and I don't believe anyone will think less of me.

Unless, of course, it's a hoax. (P.S. I hope this hasn't been posted already, I DID check)

This post has been edited by Spiffyness on 26th February 2006 18:59

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Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
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ICO-You were there-

I don't get it. These people are going to make a Final Fantasy VI sequel? In 2009? For Nintendo DS?

Best of luck to them. They might have the best intentions, but if all they're showing is a mediocre flash piece right now, I think they should have waited for.. well, something concrete before they started spouting off "big news."

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To be honest?
I was never really too fond of the their sprite comic, and for some reason, I'm skeptical about the whole thing.

First off, doesn't SquareEnix have a near Crackhead-to-crack style grip on all of it's products? Wouldn't it make sense that if there was going to be a proper Nintendo sequel created, they'd have to know something about it? More off, then, wouldn't they be the ones to develop it like all their other games?

I really don't know about this, but if it is true, well, good luck to them, they better not mess it up.

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Okay, but there was a goat!

Well... there's a comic connected to that flash, ya know. A very good one, I might add. About a week before the "big news" the guy went to Tokyo for an unknown reason. And, although it DOES seem pretty strange, (he hasn't gotten back yet to further comic) it's altogether POSSIBLE that Squeenix, in pursuit of ways to make more games with a minimal amount of work, somehow stumbled across FS and thought "hey, a story!" I reckon Square'll be doin' the game-makin'. Or, another strange but equally likely scenario: John contacted S-E first, and it went from there.

Just judging by the comic and its creator, I believe that, although it's unlikely that something like this would happen, it's EQUALLY unlikely that he would stage a hoax like this. Either way, I just figured it was worth mentioning (WELL worth mentioning if it happens)

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The island bathes in the sun's bright rays
Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
Sole witness to history

ICO-You were there-

What the bloody hell was that all about? I think it would have been easier if they just typed up the big news instead of a mind-boingingly SLOW video.

But, FF6 sequel? Hell yeah!

(Although, I think it left off in a pretty good place. I can't see where they're gonna go with it.)

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Quote (Luna @ 26th February 2006 15:06)

What the bloody hell was that all about? I think it would have been easier if they just typed up the big news instead of a mind-boingingly SLOW video.

Fully seconded. A terribly pointless waste of time, frankly. I must've clicked on the "CLICK HERE FOR THE BIG NEWSX0rZ!!" image a dozen times trying to find the post until I realized it was the very, very slow flash. Y'know, the one that explains absolutely nothing?

I haven't been able to find mention of this on any official Squaresoft sites, so I'm guessing it's their own little thing. Which means...

1- It'll be a fanboy remake/sequel, which will probably end up breaking characterization.
2- Square won't allow it to be completed.
3- If it is completed (without Square noticing,) they will NEVER be able to sell it in any legal way, so distribution will be kind of hard.
4- If they simply decide to give it out to people, they'll need some funding to keep up with all the shipping costs and the cost of blank DS carts. Or CDs? I dunno what the DS uses, lol.

A text post could've probably answered a few of these though...

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

I feel this is just some cheap publicity stunt. With their "news" this sub-par sprite comic will attract... oooh, dozens, maybe even thirty new readers.

If it is true, may God have mercy on their souls, becuase if Squenix catch them, they won't. If they mess it up, the FF6 Fanbase won't even belive in mercy any more...

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"Only the dead have seen the end of their quotes being misattributed to Plato."
-George Santayana

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..."
-Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony.

I'm pretty sure that the guy will follow up with a newspost of some sort, he's still off in Tokyo or wherever-the-heck he is.

Since the thing is, supposedly, for the DS, that is the main reason why I believe that there is some kind of deal with Square. Just what exactly the details are, I can only guess, but is there any harm in being optimistic? I don't think so. Even with something as far-fetched as this, is there really any harm in hoping for the best, at least until further information (or "ROFL IT WAS A JOKE LOLOLOL!") is divulged?

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The island bathes in the sun's bright rays
Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
Sole witness to history

ICO-You were there-

I'm not really impressed by sprite comics in general and this was no exception. If they actually make the game I'd probably play it, but I'm not expecting much

Quote (Spiffyness @ 26th February 2006 17:17)

is there any harm in being optimistic?

Well yeah, I mean, when it turns out being baloney the more hope you put into it, the bigger the let-down. >"<

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

Yeah turns out it was a hoax. I sort of suspected.

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Someone should remind them that April Fools Day is in April.

Quote (Del S @ 26th February 2006 21:47)

I feel this is just some cheap publicity stunt.

And thus I win.

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I mentioned that was looking for ways to become more active in the web comic community...

...They all agreed that it would be a fun way to promote the Fortuna Saga.

Quote (Del S @ 26th February 2006 21:47)

With their "news" this sub-par sprite comic will attract... oooh, dozens, maybe even thirty new readers.

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2) To generate interest in the Fortuna Saga and reach new readers.

Damn, I am goood.

Something I must take exception with in his announcement:

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It was an elaborate and well carried out joke that we have been planning for a while.

Elaborate? A crappy flash animation that consists of a bunch of screengrabbed images in a row followed by a newly done one that made me think there should have been an extra S on there... That's not elaborate. That's just goddamned lazy.

Well-carried out? I'd not seen his "clue" about 8-bit theatre/CAD and I saw straight through it.

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"Only the dead have seen the end of their quotes being misattributed to Plato."
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"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..."
-Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony.

Quote (Del S @ 27th February 2006 06:42)

Elaborate? A crappy flash animation that consists of a bunch of screengrabbed images  in a row followed by a newly done one that made me think there should have been an extra S on there... That's not elaborate. That's just goddamned lazy.

Well-carried out? I'd not seen his "clue" about 8-bit theatre/CAD and I saw straight through it.

Hey guys, I'm making a sprite-based FF6 remake!! It'll be out this summer!!



Plz worship me now!! =)

And that's roughly 10 minutes of work. Probably more than his little flash video involved. I can only imagine the bad publicity this generated for him in terms of disappointed, slighted fans who believed it.

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 27th February 2006 13:20

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

Haha, take that unrealistically optimistic FFVI fans.

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THE HOFF

Dang, I wanted to be the first one with this. Oh well. Yeah, it was a publicity stunt. Yeah, it's not April Fool's day (that's the main one). And yeah, everyone's hopes were... oh wait, no they weren't. But because of this, now it's got me thinkin'... it WOULD be pretty nifty to make a game outta that comic, maybe a simple FF6 hack or something? Too bad I can't do that kind of stuff, but oh well.

And RL, I wasn't talking about, say... betting your whole bloody life on something in hopes of whatever, I just meant casual optimism, something that happens to be slightly lacking in today's world. I was actually pretty suprised, both at the INSANE amount of "WOW A GAME AWESOME!" at FS's site, and also at the complete unbelief over here at CoN. I would've thought everyone would be more in the middle of the scale. Meh, I won't close this just yet, 'cause maybe it could be moved to General Topics as a Fortuna Saga thread. If that seems dumb, then a mod can close it.

And now I'll have to return to my CoN inactiveness, just because. Bye guys, and sorry for the crap (although I still think it was worth mentioning).

This post has been edited by Spiffyness on 27th February 2006 13:42

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The island bathes in the sun's bright rays
Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
Sole witness to history

ICO-You were there-

I dunno man, you seem to be taking this to heart pretty dang seriously...

I'm not surprised at the reaction here. Most of CoN's members have slightly more realistic expectations and know better than to believe without proof.

Anyone can make a wild claim but without proof, it remains just that: a wild claim.

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the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

I laughed. (At Spiffyness, but hey, laughter is laughter.)

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It's not so much that we're not optismitic, more that we thought it out logically.
Since we know Square is downright nefarious with it's copyrights
and trademarks and that it's really unlikely that some sub-par spriters would have
the skills required to make such a sequel, especially for a system like DS,
it seemed painfully obvious that this was a hoax of some sort.

With the release of VI: Advance in the not so near future, Square would've gone on a publicity rampage if a sequel was to be released, especially because I'm sure they know of the game's rather large fanbase.

Don't take it personally that none of us were too excited, it's just that we've become
fairly good at sniffing out hoaxes, false rumours and other untrue-ities over the years.

On that note, I have to say that it's pretty sad they'd resort to saying something like that just to draw in some attention and a possible larger fanbase. I feel cheated, having watched the horribly long and pointless flash video just for "OMGZ LOLOLOL WE GOT YOU, READ OUR COMICS!!" If they really needed the publicity, there's other ways to go about it.

These guys should get chopped to the throat for having us waste our time.

This post has been edited by Dragon_Fire on 27th February 2006 19:52

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Okay, but there was a goat!

Well yeah, it didn't seem too likely. Heck, I've heard a LOT of stuff over recent years that turned out to be crap (like all those "real" Advent Children scripts from a friend of a friend's brother's acquaintance), but I just was never much for expecting the worst, is all. I understand where y'all are comin' from (heck, I've acted like that about things FAR more plausible), but it's all in good fun anyway, right? Well, whatever. I actually did laugh at the people who were all "OMG I JUST PEED MYSELF AND BOUGHT A DS," so I suppose it's only natural, since although I was wrong in my thinking, they were "more wrong," in a sense.

And, as a friend of mine says, "Hoax's suck if nobody falls for it, so... WHEEEEEEEEEE!" (or was it "wooooooooooo?")

Ahh, screw it. This is too cool a place for me to be inactive. *goes off in search of interesting topics*

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The island bathes in the sun's bright rays
Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
Sole witness to history

ICO-You were there-

Sure did take a while for somebody to wait till the end of the video and see the "Just Kidding" to flash across the screen.

But honestly, I don't see why anybody would ever want a sequel to Final Fantasy VI. Not to say that FFVI wasn't great, and that it isn't deserving of a sequel by certain standards, because it is. However, I think part of the beauty of the game is in its completion, in the fullness of its storytelling, and the final product as a whole. When one finishes FFVI, they don't ask themselves "So, what happens next?" they say "Ah, what a great ending to a great game." Why ruin FFVI with a potential horrible game just for the nostalgia of playing (omg) Locke and (omg) Terra again? I've always been one to deny the fact that FFVI needs a sequel and that Square should do it anyway just because "it's the best ff evar."

P.S. - Final Fantasy VI FS definitely stands for "fo shizzle"

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I find your lack of faith disturbing...

Well hey, it's not like anyone thinks bad of you for bringing this up, I think it's more a matter of people feeling insulted by the authors for resorting to something so stupid. :/ Really, some people are very gullible and probably DID go out and buy a DS. It's the inter-web, anything could happen.

Wether it could've been possible or not isn't an issue so much as it being false advertisement that deliberately announced something they never had any intentions of working on...

Although, if it weren't for Square's iron grip on the balls of anyone trying to make a game with their trademarks, I think it'd be cool if we worked on a CoN remake of our own. We certainly have the talent when it comes to multimedia and I know I'm not the only person who can write code, so something could be managed. Buuut...

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

They also have FFV graphics too. I just saw Butz as a Knight and I think that's his or Lenna's Geomancer hood.

Interesting idea. I think I should start ripping FF4-6 graphics and edit Golbez to make him look like Exdeath. That'd be nice to recreate battles.

This post has been edited by NeoEx-Death on 28th February 2006 02:09

Clicking the link took me to a website where the first post was an admission of making a big joke. Are we about done here?

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@RL, okay I see what you're saying. Y'all were just pissed 'cause they deliberately lied to get more readers, whereas I, who was already an avid FS fan, didn't see what the big deal was.

Yes, we are about done here. Freakin' Square and their bloody copyrights... *grumblegrumble* I'm really puttin' my faith in Mistwalker to show them what for (Lost Odyssey!).

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The island bathes in the sun's bright rays
Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
Sole witness to history

ICO-You were there-

Quote (Spiffyness @ 1st March 2006 14:33)

Yes, we are about done here. Freakin' Square and their bloody copyrights... *grumblegrumble* I'm really puttin' my faith in Mistwalker to show them what for (Lost Odyssey!).

So what you're saying is, because Square-Enix is legally defending and controlling their intellectual property, you're removing support from an industry leader with an unbelievable track record and putting it into a developer about which we know almost nothing? I find that ludicrous. These FS people, who possess only a tiny cult following and nothing did a stupid thing by playing a nonsensical practical joke (I mean, come on, anyone who actually believed this had to be kidding themselves something terrible). Square-Enix isn't even involved here - it's not like they even rejected a sales pitch from these guys - IT WAS NOTHING TO BEGIN WITH.

And by the way, if I sound skeptical about Mistwalker, it's because I am. They are a huge question mark. We know next to nothing about them other than the boundless enthusiasm from Peter Moore, chode extraordinaire, and I will remain skeptical until I see some goods.

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Well actually, I'm not despising Square for whoring their copyrights, so much as just the fact that they're evil (c'mon, they ARE). Which is why I'm HOPING that Mistwalker can show 'em what for. I think I can safely say that Lost Odyssee and Blue Dragon (as well as the vague Cry On) will be good games. And it's possible that they could be GREAT games (possibly). Hironobu Sakaguchi DID create Final Fantasy IV, VI, and VII, so he's capable of greatness. His later (and much less great) games don't change that. So... I don't think they'll topple S-E, even if they create they greatest game ever, but if they manage to create great games without being evil then I'm all for 'em! Of course, they very well may be evil... but the fact that they don't own a franchise to milk means that they'll HAVE to be creative, at least until they have enough fanboys to warrant otherwise.

And S-E's track record hasn't really been all that good lately... not terribly bad, either, but merely average.

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The island bathes in the sun's bright rays
Distant hills wear a shroud of grey
A lonely breeze whispers in the trees
Sole witness to history

ICO-You were there-

Dunno man, turning in a profit isn't what I call being evil. Companies have to survive, even if they're big-ass game-dev giants like Square-Ennuch. Granted, I'm not too fond of them either anymore, but the truth is money doesn't grow on trees, and the more of it you make, the harder you have to work to keep up.

Investors won't invest much in your company if it doesn't turn in a profit, even if you're worth a few billion bucks. If Square just bent itself over and let people set precedents for abusing their copyrights, it could very easily end up painting itself in a corner. And were I in their shoes and saw people using my characters, my storylines, and my algorithms to make a fan-made version of one of my games (especially when fans are still willing to buy remakes of it and I can fall back on those when it seems turning in a profit by the end of the fiscal year isn't going to happen), I'd be flattered but I'd put my foot down indiscriminately. Even a harmless, bad fan-game could start a precedent; "Sure, you're suing us, but you were well-aware of Final Fantasy VI-2 and never did anything about it; we'll be sure to bring that up in court, Square."

It's just how the world works.

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

As Silverlance and Spiffyness has lready said SquareEnix will hold on to any of their trademarks regardless off what it is. Unless they can pull of some might card tricks they may get the Cease and Desist letter.


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