Posted: 26th December 2005 18:56
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Assuming no one ever found out it was me who made the decision, I would keep it flying to the stadium. Odd though, a missle that would encompass an entire stadium in it's explosion, and at the same time only be able to destroy a single house.
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Posted: 26th December 2005 21:50
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I would probably redirect the missile to my house.
The pain of losing everyone would be insane, but the guilt on my coinscious for killing 80,000 people would drive me insane anyway. The amount of pain resulting from my house getting destroyed would be centralized on me. But the 80,000 would be divided amongst alot more people. Let's say each person at the stadium has four relatives (no relatives at the stadium). I'd hurt 80,000*4 people by letting the missile hit the stadium. That's 320,000 people. (About 1 in 900 Americans to put it in perspective.) The amount of pain I'd cause by redirecting it would be signifcantly less in a mathmatical standpoint. Lets say 120 people are at the reuinion at my house, and let's say each of them have four relatives not there, that's only 480 people hurt. It's a terrible situation to be in, but sometimes you have to think of the greater good then oneself and those you may cherish. Other people cherish the people that are at the stadium. If I'm wrong on any number crunching, do tell me or something. This post has been edited by Kylerocks on 26th December 2005 22:10 -------------------- Really Random Quote of the Day: "Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war." - Richard M. Nixon So if you're done reading this, you know I have nothing to say and you've wasted your time. Thank you come again. |
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Posted: 27th December 2005 01:57
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ok give the parking spots to ur friends, take the cure, and stay with ur buddy. whats the point of moral and value if you have no friends to share them with?
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Posted: 27th December 2005 06:26
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I would have to say that I'd send the missile to the stadium. Yes, it's a tragedy, but I would have my family there to console me
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Posted: 27th December 2005 08:25
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-shrug- I don't much like my family reunions anyway.
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Posted: 27th December 2005 18:08
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Simply put, I'm not going to redirect the missile, sorry.
What would be a far tougher question is if the missile is orginally directed at your house... ouch... far more difficult. But I think I would redirect it to save my family somehow, erk, as wrong as it seems... man that would be tough.. -------------------- 'Let that be a lesson to all oppressive vegetable sellers.' |
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Posted: 28th December 2005 11:33
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I would send the missile to the stadium, but for all the wrong, selfish, morally corrupt reasons.
Main Reason: All my material possessions are in that house. Why is this such a big deal. Many of those posessions I worked hard for and saved up for. I would feel as if I twere betraying a friend. I also have all my video games there, many of which I put over 10 hours into it at least. And my memory Cards. Those have over 200 hours worth of work put into them. That would be a devestating Kick-in-the-teeth Secondary Reason: Though I dislike my extended family members, its the devestation of killing these people I lived with for my life. Killing My mom, dad, and sisters would to me be an unforgivable crime that I could not recover from. Especially since recently I had a strange nightmare about me walking about the house killing my family members in their sleep, then leaving to kill my friends (that can be quite scary, I locked/barricaded my room last to make sure i didn't sleepwalk the henious crime) Tertirary Reason: I hate sports. I'll base mysef on the theory that many of them probably deserve it anyway, and they probably would send the missile over to their familes to save the sport. Biased, I know, gomen. -------------------- Neneko is Neneko because Neneko couldn't be Neneko if Neneko wasn't Neneko! --as quoted from Neneko, Mahoraba {Heartful Days} I can stab a man with a thick paperback book thru the ribcage. |
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Posted: 28th December 2005 13:21
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Good responses, for the most part. Timne for a new one.
You are 15 and want a new X-Box 360. Your parents don't have much money, but they have always provided for you the best that they could, and they've tried to give you nice things that you don't really need, as well. When you ask your dad for the 360, he tells you to save up your money from the summer job you just landed, so you can buy one yourself. This is because every dollar your parents make goes straight towards maintaining the home. So, you work all summer, and save what you can, and end up with just enough for the 360. It is at this time that your dad is told that he's being sent on a business trip out of state. The company he works for is not covering his meals or expenses on the trip, only paying him for his time as they normally would. He has no extra cash, so if he goes, he will be humiliated by basically asking the coworkers on the trip to pay for his food every day. He comes to you and asks for your 360 money. Do you give this money to him, after working hard all summer for it, at his direction? -------------------- Join the Army, see the world, meet interesting people - and kill them. ~Pacifist Badge, 1978 |
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Posted: 28th December 2005 13:27
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Yes. It's basically replaying "my" father for all the hard work and sacrifice he's done, and though he distilled the "save up" conviction in me, it'd be pretty ungrateful to humiliate him in front of his colleagues. In the long run, the price would go down and it'd be that much less to work towards, so, yeah, I'd help him out.
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Posted: 29th December 2005 03:31
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Quote (Shotgunnova @ 28th December 2005 08:27) Yes. It's basically replaying "my" father for all the hard work and sacrifice he's done, and though he distilled the "save up" conviction in me, it'd be pretty ungrateful to humiliate him in front of his colleagues. In the long run, the price would go down and it'd be that much less to work towards, so, yeah, I'd help him out. I couldn't have put it better myself -------------------- Neneko is Neneko because Neneko couldn't be Neneko if Neneko wasn't Neneko! --as quoted from Neneko, Mahoraba {Heartful Days} I can stab a man with a thick paperback book thru the ribcage. |
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Posted: 29th December 2005 04:59
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According to this, I have horrible morals. xD
I would cough it up, but grudgingly. And that's not just because I was stupid enough to want an X-box in the first place ^.~ I'd probably give him hell about the fact that -he- didn't work overtime on his job or something to save up for this trip, tell him how typical this is, remind him of that time with the My Little Pony incident... Yeah, I'd teach him. Oh yes. >> -------------------- You're telling me that there's no hope. I'm telling you you're wrong. |
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Posted: 29th December 2005 08:03
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I'd fork the money over.
What if my father's boss was on this buisness trip? Or a favored co-woker of the higher-ups? They're going to look down on my father and maybe pass him over for a promotion or raise or the like. Nobody likes a moocher. Moochers get fired...or pantsed. Yes, I worked hard for that money, and I want that new Xbox (not really), but this man provided for a entire family. Gave me a room, food, some, but not all the various crap I didn't need, but wanted anyway. I owe his a**. I owe him alot. I wouldn't like it when he asked me, but after a while I'd be reminded that he gave up alot of stuff to get married and have kids and all that. Just watch the Cosby Show. The console will go down in price eventually, and I'll have saved even more money by the time the price falls, so I can get some more games. Also, I've got something to kindly remind my dad of when he starts a tirade. -------------------- Really Random Quote of the Day: "Short of changing human nature, therefore, the only way to achieve a practical, livable peace in a world of competing nations is to take the profit out of war." - Richard M. Nixon So if you're done reading this, you know I have nothing to say and you've wasted your time. Thank you come again. |
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Posted: 29th December 2005 16:47
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Of course I would hand over the money! Although, IMO it's bloody cheeky of him to ask for it. And he'd better buy me a souvenir too!
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Posted: 29th December 2005 17:19
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Quote (Luna @ 29th December 2005 11:47) Of course I would hand over the money! Although, IMO it's bloody cheeky of him to ask for it. And he'd better buy me a souvenir too! heh. yeah, that pretty much summarizes what id say. ![]() -------------------- |
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Posted: 29th December 2005 20:27
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I've had circumstance similar to this and I always hand the money over without a second thought. I can wait for my console, or anything similar and there's plenty of other things I can do to be entertained anyway.
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Posted: 29th December 2005 23:32
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I'd definitely give him the money. He has been unselfishly providing me with food and clothes, etc. since I was "knee high to a grasshopper". Besides prices get lowered and I'm sure he would help me accumulate that money.
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Posted: 30th December 2005 15:49
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Quote (strikerbolt @ 29th December 2005 03:31) Quote (Shotgunnova @ 28th December 2005 08:27) Yes. It's basically replaying "my" father for all the hard work and sacrifice he's done, and though he distilled the "save up" conviction in me, it'd be pretty ungrateful to humiliate him in front of his colleagues. In the long run, the price would go down and it'd be that much less to work towards, so, yeah, I'd help him out. I couldn't have put it better myself same here -------------------- It takes 2 people and a weapon to commit a murder Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is mystery, today is a gift, thats why we call it the present. |
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Posted: 30th December 2005 18:07
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I hate beggars.
I would yell at/tell him: «Why do you turn to me? What have I worked so hard for?» If I can see people that needs help, and that they don't beg at me, I will give them money if they accept it. I'm not getting any self satisfaction for giving money to beggars. I have my own reasons. In my case, I never ask for anything. If they push themselves in any way (like my parents that gave me something at Christmas when I straigtly told them: NO I don't want anything for Christmas, and don't try buying something randomly), I have no reason to retort. That's about it. -------------------- Sayonara |
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Posted: 30th December 2005 20:39
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Quote (Zodiac @ 30th December 2005 18:07) I hate beggars. I would yell at/tell him: «Why do you turn to me? What have I worked so hard for?» If I can see people that needs help, and that they don't beg at me, I will give them money if they accept it. I'm not getting any self satisfaction for giving money to beggars. I have my own reasons. In my case, I never ask for anything. If they push themselves in any way (like my parents that gave me something at Christmas when I straigtly told them: NO I don't want anything for Christmas, and don't try buying something randomly), I have no reason to retort. That's about it. But this is the parent that clothes you and gives you food. As Hamedo says, you are 15. Do you not want to show your gratitude some how and that you care for him as he does for you? -------------------- 'Let that be a lesson to all oppressive vegetable sellers.' |
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Posted: 30th December 2005 21:28
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When I was 15, imature for my age, I would always think of myself as the selfish bastard that I was, but I have given my father a lot of money over the years and he always pays me back, owes me, and uses that money towards my bills i.e., phone, cable, our joint school bill, etc. As for the story, I'd buy the 360. I wanted it, and I would get it if I was able to.
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Posted: 31st December 2005 00:58
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Yeah, I'd give him the money. Family is more important than material objects, most especially because parents are providers and protectors for most of our youth. I would ask myself if I really needed the 360 that badly. The answer is no. My Mom instilled that sense of logic in me when I was still little. Thanks Mom
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Posted: 1st January 2006 03:56
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I'd give my father the money. He takes care of me, and I should repay him in any way I can. (Not to mention I wouldn't be alive without him)
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Posted: 1st January 2006 07:33
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Quote (Myself-700 @ 30th December 2005 10:49) Quote (strikerbolt @ 29th December 2005 03:31) Quote (Shotgunnova @ 28th December 2005 08:27) Yes. It's basically replaying "my" father for all the hard work and sacrifice he's done, and though he distilled the "save up" conviction in me, it'd be pretty ungrateful to humiliate him in front of his colleagues. In the long run, the price would go down and it'd be that much less to work towards, so, yeah, I'd help him out. I couldn't have put it better myself same here Thank you again. And that's not to mention that I'm not really that much into games. But even if I were, I've "sacrificed" my own expected pleasure like this before. -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Posted: 1st January 2006 15:54
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Quote (fatman @ 30th December 2005 15:39) But this is the parent that clothes you and gives you food. As Hamedo says, you are 15. Do you not want to show your gratitude some how and that you care for him as he does for you? I can't argument correctly, nor you can since the scenario is far from being complete. What tells you that all that time I haven't been "repaying" my dad for the food? (In my case, I would cost 0$ of gifts [If my parents would listen at what I say] and I cost 0-50$ of clothes per year) Why would he need MY money that I gathered so hardly when he could simply borrow money from anyone else? Hey eating doesn't cost that much. If it's for his work he will surely come back with enough money to pay back. There are no jobs in terms of pay that are really worth the work for a 15 years old child. Which means more work than anobody else. I could lend SOME money, not all, but I surely won't give it. Hey Hamedo: Who would care about a XBOX 360, everyone wil go for the PS3 ![]() -------------------- Sayonara |
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Posted: 1st January 2006 22:18
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I'd give him the money. There's really nothing to say that hasn't been said: he's provided food and a place to live for me, something that I regret to say many fathers don't do nowdays. There'd be no second thoughts about it for me.
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Posted: 2nd January 2006 01:59
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Wow, Zodiac, that seems like a pretty selfish point of view. Here's a man who has hypothetically provided for you and cared for you for 15 years, and you won't save him a great deal of embarrassment by lending him money that you're instead going to put towards an XBOX 360. If you never ask for anything or, apparently, need anything unneccesary, then why not give him the money? To prove a point? I realize that this is all hypothetical and everyone's entitled to an opinion but golly, yours is awfully skewed. You may be the perfect low-maintainence child, but the fact remains that without your help, the man responsible for you living long enough to see 15 will be humiliated.
So I guess it's pretty clear what my answer would be, I'd give him the money in a heartbeat. Naturally, I'd expect repayment, and maybe even alittle interest, but by the sounds of this, I've got a pretty good life with him and can live for a while without an XBOX 360. Shotgunnova, too, makes a good point about the price decreasing and whatnot. This post has been edited by Mimic on 2nd January 2006 02:00 |
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Posted: 2nd January 2006 07:12
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I'd give him the money hands down.
After all that he's done for me for the past 16ish years, i'd be a fool to not help him. he inspired me to go work in the first place anyway, and that job would get me more money anyway. His job is more important, too, it puts food on the table and such, my money is just plain extra, for unneeded things. SGN's right with the price decreasing and all, and its probably a smarter idea to wait it out anyway. And, my dad would pay me back, he's just that kind of guy. Hands down, the money's his -------------------- "Everyone's on the ride of their life, for some it's just scarier than for others..." "It's the things you dont mean to do that have the greatest impact on your life..." |
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Posted: 2nd January 2006 09:08
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I have never been a selfish person
I would easily give my father the money, because he has worked his ass off to pay for food, clothing, 'the bills' ,sports, family trips giving him some of my money would be no problem -------------------- "Have you ever seen a baby do that before?" |
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Posted: 2nd January 2006 13:59
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Hmm...Moirality, huh?
Parking lot: sure, let them get the places...that's no prob. Farmacist question: =='' I'm kinda one track on this kind of thing. If it'd save my spouse, I'd rip his head off and wave it in public. Cop pursuit: stay with the partner... unless he said "Kill the S.O.B. for me" (or anything of the sort). Orphanage van: I take the van. No prob. Airplane: ...I'm a real sicko in confrontation situations...I'd probably do something stupid like letting him in and then saying: "Can you fly a plane? No? That's too bad, 'cause either you kill me, or kill you." and attempt to kill him (My common sense leaves in this sort of situation) Stadium: Sorry, I care more for a two/three-digit number of family members, than 80'000+ worth of people I don't know. Stadium it is. Then I'd find the bastard/bitch who launched it and strangle him/her. XboX 360: Sure dad, take it. ![]() My morals are non-existant, and most of my actions are either for the well-being of my close ones, rarely myself, or for the ill-being of those who DARE trying to make my day. -------------------- "I fell off the mountain of words at around the 10,000ft mark. Tell my family...they owe me money." -Narratorway "If you retort against this, so help me God I'll shove any part of your anatomy I can find into some other part. Figuratively, of course." - Josh "We have more, can deliver tuesday." - Del S Good old CoN |
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Posted: 2nd January 2006 16:36
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Good stuff. Ok, time for another.
You are an off-duty cop waiting in line in a bank lobby for a teller. You are in plain clothes, and are carrying your gun in a shoulder holster under your jacket. Suddenly, you hear gunshots. You turn to see two masked, shotgun wielding men at the door. They demand everyone get on the floor, and you all do. one stays at the door, while the other proceeds to the first teller and begins bagging cash from her till. You are not on duty, and in fact you were only there to get out a few bucks so you could rent a movie and get a pizza for you and the wife and kids when you got home. The criminals have not shot or seriously harmed anyone yet. So, what do you do? Let the situation ride out, and hope no one gets hurt? Or do you pull your gun and make a stand? This post has been edited by Hamedo on 2nd January 2006 16:36 -------------------- Join the Army, see the world, meet interesting people - and kill them. ~Pacifist Badge, 1978 |
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