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If Aerith lived, who do you think Cloud would have fallen for?
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Posted: 9th November 2005 18:41

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It's a simple question, but difficult to answer. I think he still would have picked Tifa though it is a close call.

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Posted: 9th November 2005 18:44

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Aeris. Much to Tifa's dismay. She was far more aggressive and open about her feelings than Tifa. Cloud, being the idiot he is, wouldn't notice Tifa at all because he's a romantic blockhead.

As an aside- Notice for the date, as stated in the CoN FF7 section, Cloud naturally has a higher affinity for Aeris than he does for Tifa.

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Posted: 9th November 2005 18:49

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That's true. Aeris was more assertive about it, while Tifa was a bit too subtle for the beefcake known as Cloud to notice. I thought that the childhood relationship might be a factor too though.

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Posted: 9th November 2005 19:48

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Very interesting question. I haven't really thought about it, but it's a close call. I would say Aeris, but the transaction in the Lifestream could be a factor. But, then again, would Tifa have gone with Cloud to the Lifestream and do everything in her power to save if Aeris hadn't died? A threesome wouldn't have been in the cards, but I think he'd choose Aeris.

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Posted: 9th November 2005 20:01

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I agree with the Aeris theory. She was definitely more aggressive about her feelings. I don't see Cloud going after Tifa if Aeris lives
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Posted: 9th November 2005 21:02

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Yeah most definately Aeris, I mean c'mon in the movie I think he still has some strong feelings for her, and you know how he took Zack's personality and made it his own, maybe Zack's interest in Aeris passed on to him, his Zack personality fell once more for Aeris. In the date in the Gold Saucer, Aeris I think even makes love to him in the speed square scene, "she want it to "MEET" him", while Tifa's date was a shy date, "Cloud I... I"

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Posted: 9th November 2005 21:10
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I think the game hints that Cloud was headed in that direction, but I don't think it would have worked out. Cloud might have had this huge attraction to her, but, ultimately, they didn't understand each other. Cloud, Aeris, or both of them would have figured that out eventually, and Tifa would have been waiting in the wings for her turn.

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Posted: 9th November 2005 23:13

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as mech as id like to see him with tifa, he woulda been with aeris despite my vote.....i just cant stand Aeris....shes useless and annoying to me....

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Posted: 9th November 2005 23:40

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Aeris really is kind of annoying, isn't she.

And plus, I don't think Tifa ever really openly flirts with Cloud, nor is their "relationship" hinted at remotely in the game, pre or post Aeris.

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Posted: 10th November 2005 00:10

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I think most of Aeris's interest in Cloud was because he acted so damn much like Zack.

And uh... has the same sword even. Not even a similar style. The same exact one.

I always felt her attraction/affection was more of the maternal or concerned variety, but a lot of it is opinion, of course. And of course, the love points you rack up. rolleyes.gif

After the Lifestream scene, and Advent Children especially, I gotta go with Tifa. For many reasons, but the Zack thing primarily here.

EDIT: Also, Cloud already fell for Tifa back in Nibelheim, so the question is academic.

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Posted: 10th November 2005 00:55

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Hmm...

I'm not entirely sure. As you said, Cloud once fell for Tifa, but then the experimentations in the mansion kind of scrambled his brain for awhile. After that, since his arrival in Midgar, he didn't show any overt feelings for Tifa much less think them in a way that the player could really read.

As much as I want to say Aeris as a straight-out answer, I think she's a little cloudy, too. She definately alludes to Cloud about her feelings for him (meant for Zack?), but I'm not sure if the current switches halfway circa first disc Gold Saucer. Because of the Zack undertones that are stated initially, I'm not really sure who she's fallen for, either.

Cloud's got a head full of rocks, of course, so that indecisiveness is just more static to wade through. I'd hope he ended up with Aeris, though that's just wishing upon wishing, I s'pose. All the scenes where they're acting lovey-dovey are kind of for them alone, and she even appears in his dreams. It's not really lop-sided...but, I think Aeris was the better match, even if he ended up with neither.

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Posted: 10th November 2005 01:13

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Tifa all the way
even if cloud had started a relationship with aeris, he'd soon realize that aeris is annoying and would try to control the relationship too much

also after cloud finds himself with the help of tifa he would probably realize that tifa is the girl for him
and would realize that aeris only liked him because her reminded her of Zack

tifa definately tifa

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Posted: 10th November 2005 01:17
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I agree with all the above replies.

I think that Cloud NEVER fell in love with Tifa.. Never.. They were only childhood friends. Tifa did not love Cloud either. They weren't "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" related. That much is known...

Now, for Aerith, she was alone and was in need of a body guard because the ShinRa we're after her.. Cloud agreed to protect her after helping her escape from Reno and the ShinRa soldiers.

Yeah, I agree with L. Cully's reason that Aerith wanted to be protected by Cloud was because he reminded her of Zack.

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EDIT: Also, Cloud already fell for Tifa back in Nibelheim, so the question is academic.

No, Cloud never fell for Tifa in Nibelheim. They were childhood FRIENDS. Does it say anything before the time Aerith died that Tifa loved Cloud? No, the Gold Saucer Date with Tifa does not count.

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After the Lifestream scene, and Advent Children especially, I gotta go with Tifa. For many reasons, but the Zack thing primarily here.
Hey, don't get too far! That all happened after Aerith's death, so anything can change.

And also, again on the flashback thing, Tifa wanted to keep a promise with Cloud that he'd protect her, he agreed, but he never protected her, knowing that he's a clumsy mental spikey haired freak..

And joining SOLDIER was no reason but to become the best swordsman just like his idol, Sephiroth.
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Posted: 10th November 2005 01:23

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Cloud may not have been full-fledged in love with Tifa, but she was one of the catalysts for why he moved to Midgar to be one of the SOLDIER members. He was weak and becoming stronger was a way for Tifa to notice him. The events that take place in his subconsciousness in the Lifestream explain some of this.

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Posted: 10th November 2005 01:32

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No, Cloud never fell for Tifa in Nibelheim. They were childhood FRIENDS.

? Cloud joined SOLDIER because he had a crush on her.

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Posted: 10th November 2005 12:13

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No, Cloud never fell for Tifa in Nibelheim. They were childhood FRIENDS.

? Cloud joined SOLDIER because he had a crush on her.

Which is exactly what I was going to say. Cloud defintetly had feelings for Tifa beyond a platonic sense. Despite all the great arguments, I still say Tifa.

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Posted: 10th November 2005 14:42

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I don't beleive that Aeris and Cloud ever had any sort of 'thing' going on. He cherished her as a friend. She was attracted to him at first because he reminded her of Zack, but those feelings changed to friendship when she came to terms with it.

Definitely Cloud and Tifa, still.

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Posted: 10th November 2005 22:43

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Quote (L. Cully @ 9th November 2005 20:32)
?  Cloud joined SOLDIER because he had a crush on her.

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when tifa fell from the bridge when she was a child going up to see if her mom was in the mountains, she almost died and cloud was helpless and unable to do anything, he thought he was weak for being so helpless and wanted to go into soldier to become stronger so tifa wouldnt think badly of him and that he was weak


i think (if my memory serves me well)

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Posted: 11th November 2005 03:52

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Well, Cloud and Aeris, they fell for each other since the beginning, and Cloud is still dumbfounded even after her death (in FF VII). Therefore, I would say based on the game and movie, Cloud would have falled for Aeris, although it would have changed the storyline drastically if Aeris wouldn't have died, and anything could have happened. However, I would much rather have Cloud fall for Tifa, cept he just kinda ignores her.

Good question, cept it will never be answered, even after watching the movie.
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The look on Tifa's face at the end of the movie suggests ... biggrin.gif. Too bad Cloud concentrated on Aeris the whole damn time, which makes everything, again, open to interpretation. Gotta wait till Dirge of Cerebus.


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Posted: 11th November 2005 03:54

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Cloud didn't "join" soldier because of Tifa being in Midgar, Tifa says in one flashback scene that all the boys are leaving Nibelheim to join SOLDIER, Cloud was with her when she said that, and Cloud told her he was leaving too, SOMETHING LIKE THAT!! Cloud left to SOLDIER to become famous just like his hero Sephiroth, and hope that one day he would appear in the town's news paper some day!

And yes, Aeris was atracted too Cloud because he was acting like Zack! Plus he had a HUGE sword!!

And about byblos' SPOLIER text box, that's more like, "YOU'RE GETTING SOME TONIGHT BOY!!"

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Posted: 11th November 2005 04:00

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And about byblos' SPOLIER text box, that's more like, "YOU'RE GETTING SOME TONIGHT BOY!!"


laugh.gif Exactly (I was paralyzed when I saw that glare wacko.gif)

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Posted: 11th November 2005 12:44

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Some of you mentioned Cloud's strong feelings for Aeris after death. I disagree with that as I think Cloud shows strong feelings for her [partly] because she's history. Had the situation had been reversed and Tifa would've been killed in some way, form, or fashion and Aeris somehow lived, I believe Cloud would have shown stronger feelings for Tifa, and been with Aeris. Get my point? It's possible that he (like me and so many other humans) take the living and what he have for granted and express deep feelings and true emotions for something/someone after it's gone completely, so I don't take that into consideration, just something I had to point out.

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Posted: 12th November 2005 08:03

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From what I can remember (and I really need to play this game again), Aeris was more attracted to Cloud in a romantic way, and Cloud to her in a friendship way.

Aeris probably liked Cloud because he reminded her of Zack. No doubt. I know I've been attracted to girls who reminded me of an ex, and girls have been attracted to me because I reminded them of someone. It's common.

Cloud seems to like Aeris, but he never really has an intimate attachment. Obviously her death, because it was so tragic, made her more important to him. But from the beginning, his feelings are for Tifa.

I think if Aeris had lived that she would have gotten over the similarity to Zack (especially if she figured out why Cloud was so similar) and Cloud would have ended up with Tifa.
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Posted: 12th November 2005 21:27

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Cloud didn't "join" soldier because of Tifa being in Midgar, Tifa says in one flashback scene that all the boys are leaving Nibelheim to join SOLDIER, Cloud was with her when she said that, and Cloud told her he was leaving too, SOMETHING LIKE THAT!! Cloud left to SOLDIER to become famous just like his hero Sephiroth, and hope that one day he would appear in the town's news paper some day!

And yes, Aeris was atracted too Cloud because he was acting like Zack! Plus he had a HUGE sword!!

And about byblos' SPOLIER text box, that's more like, "YOU'RE GETTING SOME TONIGHT BOY!!"

Actually, she says that all the boys are leaving town looking for work. Not to join Soldier. Cloud decided to do that because he wanted to become strong and famous like Sephiroth so that Tifa would notice him.

Then his head got all screwy. Cloud definatly had feelings for Tifa during his youth, it was apparent by the way he followed her to the mountains when they hadn't even really spoken, and afterwards felt the need to get stronger for her.

I think that the Zack part of Cloud's brain is what loved Aeris (god though, I'll never understand it.) The REAL Cloud however, the personality that only slightly reveals itself after the Lifestream incident, is the Cloud of Nibelhiem, the Cloud that wanted to impress Tifa.

So Zack-Cloud = Aeris
Real-Cloud = Tifa.

Cloud will always have deep feelings for Aeris because he can't truly tell apart the Zack from the Cloud in him.
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He felt strongly for her and he watched her die right before his eyes, something that would traumatize anyone, throw in the fact that he blamed himself entirely for it and you'd see why he'd have such a hardtime holding on. It's more a guilt-trip than actual love
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Posted: 18th November 2005 12:17

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Yuffie FTW biggrin.gif

Seriously, i think that it would have been Aeris, due to the fact that Tifa never seemed to be forthcoming enough, and the scenario with her and Cloud was just her memories making her feel she felt that way for him. Maybe she was in love with the old Cloud, but the 'new' Cloud was ust too closed and different.

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Posted: 19th November 2005 00:50

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at first i hated Aeris, then after she died, i though for a while and found out how important she really was


So i say that Cloud would have fallen for Aeris,

But Cloud's got one hell of a love triangle, cause i like him with tifa, too... eh.gif

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Posted: 20th November 2005 11:09

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In all truth I'd say Aeris is more suited to Cloud, she's a little older than him and she can take care of his fragile states of mind, although you can't tell if she'd like him after she found out about the Zach+Cloud stuff.
Even Cloud's mother says something like "you should find a nice older girl, one who will take care of you" or something like that.
Cloud did have feelings for Tifa when he was younger but I don't think he really liked her in loving sense by the time the game started, I think he and Tifa would be dear friends but nothing more.
I think a lot of it depends on how you play the game some versions might make it seem like he will end up with Tifa and others like he will end up with Aeris but in the all the flower girl gets my vote because Cloud seems to have a thing for her at least, he doesn't seem romantically inclined to Tifa after he grows up, Tifa seems to be more of a childhood crush than a real love.

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Posted: 22nd November 2005 17:14

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I know from experience that being outspoked means nothing, it's the physical and mental connection of the people, I chose Tifa, I think Cloud knew that Tifa would always be there for him, Aerith seemed like that one girl from saturday night.

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Posted: 3rd December 2005 11:56

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Lets not forget that cloud chose to be her bodyguard in exchange for one date. Now, whether he decided to protect her because she clearly didn't really have anything to offer besides her self is only speculation. However, if I both Tifa and Aries (I still can never remember how to spell her name) lived then I believe that it would be something like the Tenchi Muyo series where Tenchi never actually chooses one from the love triangle. My own personal choice would have to be Tifa; I always liked her best. Also, she just seems more like Clouds type. By that I mean, Cloud is as dense as highly compressed mako, and Tifa is almost as slow. Have any of you ever answered the question Tifa asks before the mission to the number 5 reacter. "Did you sleep well?" Answer "Next to you? Who wouldn't?". Her reply is "Huh? What do you mean?" or something like that. Anyway, she should have known full well what that ment; a drunk monkey with cotton balls it its ears would caught onto that.

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