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I need a little help on a Boss I'm fighting. Right now I'm in the Sealed Cave and I am trying to beat the Evil Wall. Well I keep getting killed and I'm getting tired of it. So any help would be appreciated.

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"Ye better start believing in ghost stories; you're in one!" -Captain Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl)

Well, you're a little late for the warp trick. Maybe you should try leveling some more, the key to Evil Wall is speed. Have Rosa stick to bringing people back to life if they get crushed, use a Phoenix Down on her if she gets crushed, keep Kain airborne, Sometimes it helps to berserk Cecil.

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You may also want to level up a bit more. Just do full out offensive. Cast spells that are quick, yet dish out alot of damage. I might even suggest having Kain do normal attacks untill the wall gets close to start crushing.

I can usually pull it off before the wall starts crushing, or finish him off after he crushes just 1 of the party members.

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have rydia use leviathian (if youve got it) and if you dont, have her use Lit3or Indra(ramuh). have kain jump,cecil beserk attack, and rosa heal. then have edge dart but i dont think you have him yet. i forgot.orrrrrrrr you could just level up more

The best way to work it i have found is the following- Rosa Level 34 or up (needs Wall to beat Asura)
Rydia- Needs to know Liviathan So Rosa Most Know Wall
Cecil- Just Beserk Him
Kain- Jump baby
Edge-Beserk

To level up rosa fight trap doors and try to make it so she and few other people recieve exp

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I'm just wondering what levels you guys were at when you beat the Evil Wall. I've thought about trecking back out of the Sealed Cave, go get Leviathan, level up, and stock back up on supplies.

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"Ye better start believing in ghost stories; you're in one!" -Captain Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl)

I don't remember the exact level I did this, but it was some time in the 20s

The way I handled the wall was to have two people focus exclusively on bringing other people back to life: Rosa (with her raise spell) and Rydia (with a heck of a lot of phoenix downs). Other characters acted as substitutes when those characters fell, but the key is that the wall only attacks a little less than twice as often as any of your characters can go. So long as you keep on using Phoenix downs at the rate he's attacking you (not even bothering with healing) and are still doing damage with at least one character, the Wall will fall eventually.

Can't remember the levels...

Cecil & Cain - Berserk. Cain eqp. with that big axe you get on the way (Ogre-killer?)
Edge - dart man, dart! Stock up on daggers in mist if you can. (If you can't...er...sorry.) No stock for darting? Berserk.
Rydia - Black magic/Leviathan.
Rosa - don't get kilt ( sorry, Caz, Del ).


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Rosa needs to be at least level 34. if you can get float fight in the LOSM and Level up the party with her and you should be fine. In essence the most important part is Rydia Knowing Leviathan. So Rosa Must know Wall to beat asura. Lvl 34 or higher for the whole party

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hi, i just brought ff4 for the psx i think is it ok? not good? ok?

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This post has been edited by Elena99 on 15th March 2004 17:26

Hello, anthonyyoung, and welcome to the Caves of Narshe! (And by the way, try not to post off topic, since that tends not to fare well with the mods.)

(before) make sure everyone is equipped with the most powerful equipment (weapons, especially)
Kain: Jump
Rosa: attack with weapon/weapon-cast spell/White (if you have it): whichever does the most damage, after berserking Cecil
Cecil: have Rosa berserk him
Rydia: call Leviathan (using Bio or a 3rd-order spell might work, but I don't remember EvilWall's weakness)
Edge: Dart your best stuff (mainly stars, I'd suppose)

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Thanks guy for all of your help. I finally beat the Evil Wall. I shed a few tears when I did it. So now I can finally get moving on with my game.

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"Ye better start believing in ghost stories; you're in one!" -Captain Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl)

My congrats Thief... er.. Treasure Hunter.
CoN helps anytime (or so I believe... )

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Well guys I got my first taste of Zeromus. I didn't like it. So what did you guys do to beat Zeromus? Also all of my guys are past level 60.

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"Ye better start believing in ghost stories; you're in one!" -Captain Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl)

To be honest, just hit him with everything you've got. There's not really any cheap way to beat Zeromus, and with all you're chars over 60 i'd say you should be in pretty good shape. Just go at it until he finally dies. Rosa's gonna be healing almost constantly after doing his Big Bang, and Rydia usually goes pretty quick so make sure to keep an eye on her. This is the last battle so don't hold anything back. Go into your inventory and use elixirs like crazy if ya have to. Kain is essential as he can kill Zeromus on his own if he has to, given that you have enough elixirs to keep his HP up. Edge is nice in the beginning as he can throw all those nice swords you've been saving(hopefully). Cecil just sits there and slices him to bits, and that's about all so you know what to do with him. That's about it. So just kill, kill, kill, and then watch that Lunarian freak die.

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Jeez, another signature...i can't do this anymore, just kill me already!

The three guys should just do what they do best. Cecil attacks, Kain jumps, and Edge tosses things. Now, the big question...do you use Rosa for offense and have Rydia summon Asura, or use Rydia for offense and have Rosa cast cure spells? Things to think about are:
1) Holy, Bahamut, and Meteo can deal max damage, but Meteo just takes too long.
2) Zeromus counters Holy with Weak (death after HP drain from Big Bang), and counters black magic and summons with Nuke (just plain death).
3) Rosa has Life2 and more HP than Rydia.
4) Asura has a significant chance of landing on a face that you don't want, but Life1 to all party members and a couple thousand HP heal to all are very useful if you get them at the right time.
5) Have you stolen and used the Dark Matter?

Either way, they'll probably both be dead at the end of the battle. You just have to make sure the other people don't get killed until the enemy's doom is near. When he starts using Meteo rapid fire, that's your cue to go for the throat.

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My soul is bound to the Mistress of the Afterlife, and my fealty is to her always. So let's just hope she doesn't use it as one of her ten daily meals.

When I fought Zeromus way back when, I found it was nice to have Rosa constantly Heal, and have Rydia cast Bahamut when you aren't in desperate need of Healing. Asura is nice, but there I just don't like that risk of it cast Life or Cure1 and Sylph doesn't do crap to Zeromus. If your feeling saucy (and I always am) work a couple White spells in there too, they do big damage to that ugly punk. You should already know what to do with your Heavy Hitters, if you have to use Cecil for Cure2 you've probably already lost.

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Oh yeah...I forgot White maybe called Holy now...but it's still the same sweet spell.

This post has been edited by The Ancient on 25th March 2004 20:03

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"That Light has bestowed upon me the greatest black magic!"

Zeromus wangs chung. Hes hella easy. Just have Rydia know meteo. keep cecil attacking. Pawn off your best weapons to throw. Then have edge wail on him. Kain jump. Rosa Should use heal 4 every turn. It works easily. i beat him first try at the age of 5 so... Ya know its easy.

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If you've been mod-o-fied,
It's an illusion, and you're in-between.
Don't you be tarot-fied,
It's just alot of nothing, so what can it mean?
~Frank Zappa

Sins exist only for people who are on the Way or approaching the Way

I guess he's hella easy if you have meteo, I know I've never acutally leveled enough to have Rydia get that in the game.

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"That Light has bestowed upon me the greatest black magic!"

Meteo is very overrated. Sure, it does big damage, but it takes about 3-4 turns to cast, by which time you're crispy.

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My soul is bound to the Mistress of the Afterlife, and my fealty is to her always. So let's just hope she doesn't use it as one of her ten daily meals.

I agree it is really overated, it takes forever to charge up and it costs you an butt-load of friggin mp to cast. I used Bahamut for the most part. However I will give it credit for being called Meteo, that just sounds cool. I wish I had thought of that name, just saying it out loud.. METEO, haha.

As for the problem with Zeromus. Heres what I did with each character:

Cecil: Attack, Attack some more, Keep on attacking... and if Rosa is getting weak heal her with an elixir (heals her mp as well)

Rosa: Cast Cure 4 every turn on every character, no matter what. Even if you dont think you need it. There will be certain points where everyone is completely full, in which case you have Rydia cast Ashura or whatever and you have Rosa cast Holy/White on Zeromus. When someone dies use Life 2 dont bother with regular Life spell.

Rydia: Bahamut that biotch!

Kain: Jump like mad

Edge: Just in my opinion, Edge was one of those guys that was awesome when u first got him but his usefulness went on a downward spiral. So do whatever you see fit with him, let that be attacking or throwing just make sure you use him to keep Rosa stocked on mp and health

This post has been edited by Confewzd on 27th March 2004 19:01

Once again I would like to thank the academy for making it all possible. *sobs* Just my way of saying thanks once again for you guys helping me. Confewzd's strategy worked and it also help by everybody else leveling up once or twice. I was very happy and relieved when I beat Zeromus. So everybody once again thanks.

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"Ye better start believing in ghost stories; you're in one!" -Captain Barbossa (Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl)

zeromus is pretty easy once u think about it, its quite straight forward. i killed him even before i had holy, weeeeeeee. all u need to do is use ur most powerful attacks and keep every one alive. also dont conserve items during this battle, u obviously wont be needing them after

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Zeromus had one of the easiest boss fights ever--I was surprised that people thought he was hard in that "Hardest Final Boss" topic (Lavos was a HUGE frickin' pain, Kefka had his "obelisk", and NeoExdeath had Almagest and Grand Cross). The strategy, while boring, it quite simple: just pound away and heal. Here's what I do:

Kain: Jump. There's no real point to do anything else. It might be cool to cast White (Holy) on Zeromus with the White/Holy spear, but it does less than 1000 damage (probably because of Kain's low mg.pow. stat).
Rosa: Cast Cure4 every turn. If she's just healed everyone last turn and Zeromus hasn't cast Big Bang yet, then I'd rather you sit there and wait until he casts Big Bang before applying the much-needed Cure4.
Cecil: Use the crystal (duh!), and then just attack. If you want, you can mess around with the FireBomb, but it does less damage than Cecil could by just swinging his Crystal sword.
Rydia: Summon Bahamut. Nuke is just as fast (or rather, slow, depending on how you see it), but not as powerful (400*black magic multiplier, while Bahamut has 480*black magic multiplier). Meteo (800*black magic multiplier)* is very cool, has a great sound effect, and can do over 8000 (and sometimes 9999) damage to Zeromus, but uses more MP and takes about twice as long to cast. Therefore, your best best time-wise and MP-wise is Bahamut.
Edge: First Dart the Spoon (if you don't know what this does, then throw it and you'll see). Then Dart any Crystal swords you might have duplicated, then the Excalibur(s), then others. You can find a list of Dartable weapons on Ben Siron's "FF2 Player's Handbook".

Zeromus should just be a piece of hard cake with lots of HP.

*Thanks to Ben Siron's "handbook" for the damage multipliers.

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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 28th March 2004 13:20)

Zeromus had one of the easiest boss fights ever--I was surprised that people thought he was hard in that "Hardest Final Boss" topic (Lavos was a HUGE frickin' pain, Kefka had his "obelisk", and NeoExdeath had Almagest and Grand Cross).  The strategy, while boring, it quite simple: just pound away and heal.  Here's what I do:

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Zeromus should just be a piece of hard cake with lots of HP.

That would work well, except that even at level 60 Big Bang does more damage than Rosa can cure with Cure 4. The only way I was able to beat Zeromus was to keep Rydia dead so that Rosa could heal more HP. Not exactly what I would call an easy boss. Of course maybe at a higher level Rosa could keep up with the damage Big Bang does and it would be an easier fight.

Zeromus has 5 attacks: Big Bang, Nuke/Flare, Black Hole, Meteo, and Bio/Virus. Hit him with all you've got as far as physical attacks go. I strongly recommend you equip Rosa so that her magic stat is very, very high. Her Cure4 spell should then do enough to heal from the Big Bang attack. Rydia's magic may seem useful but Zeromus will counter with Flare/Nuke every time. Once you get his HP down to near-death he'll start using Meteo, which is surprisingly weak. I think the key to this battle is speed, being able to choose oyur commands quickly and efficiently. Plus, you have to keep your HP up. He'll go down eventually. If you're desperately low on HP you can try to summon Asura and hope for the healing effect.

This battle took me a long time to win because I didn't equip the most helpful armor for magic on Rosa and Rydia. That and I didn't even have Rydia at level 50 yet. Level 60 is more than enough to beat Zeromus.

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This battle took me a long time to win because I didn't equip the most helpful armor for magic on Rosa and Rydia.  That and I didn't even have Rydia at level 50 yet.    Level 60 is more than enough to beat Zeromus.

Are you people playing the same game as me? My level 62 Rosa only heals about 1500 to 1800 with Cure 4, and Zeromus does 2000 to 2500 with Big Bang. My characters are all dead within a few turns.

EDIT: By equipping the Sage Staff instead of the Yoichi Bow, Rosa can heal about 1800 to 2200, still not as much as Big Bang does, but enough that I can win fairly easily. I still don't see how you can win at level 50 though, Rydia's max HP would be less than the damage done by Big Bang, and she'd always be dead.

This post has been edited by Gogo the Great on 31st March 2004 21:14

I've noticed several things I'd like to comment on:

1. I don't remember Zeromus countering magic and summons with Virus, although he did use Virus occasionally. Or maybe I just didn't notice.
2. In my game, my characters are at levels 62-66, and Big Bang does about 1200-1500 damage while Rosa's Cure4 heals about 1700-2000 HP, even when split over 5 characters. Rosa holds the Samurai bow, and a large supply of Artemis arrows.

These differing responses may be due to people playing different versions, though, since the difficulty of each is noticably different.

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