Posted: 8th September 2006 11:06
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It's probably old news for a lot of you by now, but if you want a PS3 anytime soon you're probably in a world of hurt. And yes, that goes for everyone, everywhere reading this. If you're an American, you're going to be fighting everyone else for only four hundred thousand launch consoles on 17 November. If you're Japanese, then, MAWAII - but you're going to be diving into a pool that only has one hundred thousand on their 11 November launch.
If you're anywhere else, I am sincerely sorry. You're not getting anything at all until March 2007, and there's no word yet whether Sony will be able to catch up with their projected two million units shipped by that time. Obviously the odds aren't looking that great, but you never know. Wonder why this is the case? You'll be shocked. Sony's having problems with Blu-Ray production! Factory production issues are slowing the production of working drives for the units, and it seems that shipping of the console can't really ramp up until the lone optical media device on the box actually works. Microsoft, of course, finds this hilarious - Neil Thompson, head of the Xbox group in the UK, had this to say: "We know how challenging it is to pull off a global launch, so it's not surprising that Sony has backed away from their previously announced launch plan, due to the unproven technology they are trying to pack in to their console." Someone might want to let Neil know that it's not as if his parent company has ever launched anything but Xbox on time, though, don't you think? Sources: HEXUS.gaming Xbox Today Canada This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 8th September 2006 11:09 -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 11:41
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Wavey Marle! Posts: 2,098 Joined: 21/1/2003 Awards: |
Looking on the bright side, you now have more time to save up for one! And besides, it's not a videogame related launch if we Europeans don't get to bitch about being four months behind the rest of the world...
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Posted: 8th September 2006 12:12
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Cetra Posts: 2,336 Joined: 1/3/2004 Awards: |
I'm wondering what the long term impact of this will be for Sony.
Missed revenue recovery in the form of console sales.... Missed revenue in the form of game sales.... Lost confidence from the gaming community.... It seems like the other two big competitors are primed to take a step up the food chain. I do hope Sony is able to get their product out soon, though, and that it is a quality product. The more options gamers have the better, as it encourages improvement and development. -------------------- Join the Army, see the world, meet interesting people - and kill them. ~Pacifist Badge, 1978 |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 12:22
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SOLDIER Posts: 744 Joined: 29/4/2006 Awards: |
Let's just hope it wont "screw up" like the X-Box 360's, well so I heard .
But Hamedo is right, the confidence of gamers will be lost. And yes, what Del said we have more time to save up for one now. Edit Added a word This post has been edited by Dragon King on 8th September 2006 12:22 -------------------- Kel'Thuzad: She is persistent. Reminds me of you, death knight. Arthas:Shut up you damned ghost. -Warcraft III Kel'thuzad comparing Arthas and Sylvanas Windrunner. |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 13:59
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Quote (Hamedo @ 8th September 2006 08:12) I'm wondering what the long term impact of this will be for Sony. Missed revenue recovery in the form of console sales.... Missed revenue in the form of game sales.... Lost confidence from the gaming community.... I think personally that all the things you describe are short term, not long term. I actually think that it will cause no small amount of grumbling for people who have preorders that can't get filled or even want to just try to pick one up for Christmas (in North America, of course), but the fact is that most of those units probably already have deposits down on them and it won't actually hurt the sales figures, thereby not causing any long term damage to revenue. With regards to market confidence, I think that's going to end up being short term as well. If they shipped all they wanted, but half of them didn't work properly, THAT would be a long-term devastation. As it is, they're slowing production to improve quality. That will tick off the impatient, but in the long run everyone will still get their PS3 and it (should) actually work. I would think that after the initial shortage that confidence will level out again. -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 16:35
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While back in the day of the N64 and the PS1, I stood with the N64 against the PS1, but I think these days I feel like standing with the PS3 against the XBox 360.
The PS3 isn't the only technologically awesome console to be beleaguered by problems that might hinder its dominance. Theoretically, the Dreamcast should have done very well, which is why I feel bad for the PS3 now... -------------------- current games (2024-02-19): Fairy Fencer F ADF Pokémon Perfect Crystal finished so far this year: Gato Roboto drowning, drowning New Super Mario Bros. TMNT 3: Radical Rescue tabled: Lost Ruins |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 17:12
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This cannot bode well. While Microsoft was never clear on the reason why they released so few 360s in the initial run (they claimed it was their strategy to create high demand and hype, but if that is true then they severely miscalculated), Sony definitely wasn't planning this. They can only hope that the initial run of both hardware and launch titles gets absolutely stellar reviews and the hype stays strong / doesn't fall any further. I still have high hopes for a fair number of PS3 titles (namely DMC 4 and both PS3 FF games), but I'm starting to lose confidence in Sony. It only continues the trend of every successive rumor and newsbyte making Nintendo look better and Sony look worse.
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Post #130391
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Posted: 8th September 2006 17:30
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Holy Swordsman
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Quote (laszlow @ 8th September 2006 12:12) I still have high hopes for a fair number of PS3 titles (namely DMC 4 and both PS3 FF games), but I'm starting to lose confidence in Sony. It only continues the trend of every successive rumor and newsbyte making Nintendo look better and Sony look worse. My thoughts exactly, except I don't know what DMC4 is. No one wants to buy a console that doesn't look strong and wind up with another Dreamcast. -------------------- Veni, vidi, dormivi. |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 17:44
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Wavey Marle! Posts: 2,098 Joined: 21/1/2003 Awards: |
If they play thier cards right though, they could have an incredibly successful european launch: That delay will allow for so many more European versions of games already released to come out on launch day. If they use their brains, Euro PS3 launch could have a selection of games comprised of almost every title launched in Japan and the US...
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Posted: 8th September 2006 19:21
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Quote (karasuman @ 8th September 2006 12:30) My thoughts exactly, except I don't know what DMC4 is. No one wants to buy a console that doesn't look strong and wind up with another Dreamcast. Devil May Cry 4 , and you're exactly right - if Sony continues to have all of these problems with the PS3 well into its lifetime, well, the PS3 will lose developers, lose popular games, and lose customers, in that order. -------------------- |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 19:41
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Black Waltz Posts: 933 Joined: 30/5/2005 Awards: |
It would be a shame for that to happen to Sony's systems, but it seems like a possibility. I personally know more people reconsidering getting PS3s for reasons like this. Of course, my best friend believes that the PS3 will oversweep the compition and pound the Wii into the dust.
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Posted: 8th September 2006 20:31
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I really don't know if you can compare Sony's situation here to what Sega was in a few years back. The Dreamcast, with its other problems, was also the second system in a row that didn't quite live up to expectations, in my opinion. The Saturn never really took off either, and even the Genesis had been pretty well overshadowed by the time of its demise. I think Sega had to dig themselves out of a hole with the DC and failed - Sony is now releasing a followup to a console that was more popular than God (and also had shortages and quality issues early on, but was itself following a console more popular than God). That's why I say that this is a speedbump, not a road culminating in a cliff.
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Posted: 8th September 2006 22:03
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Black Mage Posts: 212 Joined: 5/8/2006 Awards: |
Neat! I can't wait until PS3 comes out! I think it will totally blow XBox 360 away. Does anyone know when Wii will come out?
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Posted: 8th September 2006 22:07
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Dragoon Posts: 1,796 Joined: 15/11/2003 Awards: |
Quote if Sony continues to have all of these problems with the PS3 well into its lifetime, well, the PS3 will lose developers, lose popular games, and lose customers, in that order. They lost me the first time i saw what the PS3 was goig to look like, and the more it unravels the better and better a Nintendo Wii looks ironically i might buy a PS2 in the near future. -------------------- "Have you ever seen a baby do that before?" |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 22:46
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Wavey Marle! Posts: 2,098 Joined: 21/1/2003 Awards: |
Quote (SetzerGabianni147 @ 8th September 2006 23:03) Neat! I can't wait until PS3 comes out! I think it will totally blow XBox 360 away. Does anyone know when Wii will come out? Well, generally, you need to will your bladder to simply let it all go, and it should start from there. In all seriousness, Nintendo may be pulling a fast one here: Wikipedia says they plan to release before Thanksgiving 2006 in the US, in which case, they have less than a month to tell everyone. I can but hope a great case of irony is occuring here and Ninty are holding people's trust by being dishonest... ...but hey, I just want to see karma kick nintendo fanboys in the chuckies. I personally feel that the US now belongs to the 360, no matter what Sony do. They might hold Japan and Europe. However, I think overall, we're still heading for a repeat of the last console war, though Sony's margin will be greatly reduced. -------------------- "Only the dead have seen the end of their quotes being misattributed to Plato." -George Santayana "The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..." -Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony. |
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Posted: 8th September 2006 23:30
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Dragoon Posts: 1,838 Joined: 3/2/2004 Awards: |
With this, i may have to buy Sonic the hEdgehog for 360, with the price to high and plus, the 360 will likely have a price drop soon. But at least there is time to save up.
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Posted: 9th September 2006 01:26
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Chocobo Knight Posts: 107 Joined: 8/5/2006 Awards: |
These consoles aren't (I think) going to be around for only the typical 5 year cycle, or whatever it is now. I think these consoles are going to be around a bit longer. Now, with that said, the launch problems wont necessarily mean doom for the Playstation 3. The longer shelf life will only help Sony regain their foothold in the next-gen battle for console supremacy. Sure, it might take them a while, but provided they have a stream of solid titles early on to keep consumers happy and interested while the ps3's start hitting the market place, they'll be fine.
They will be doomed, however, if they have a poor selection of titles that the public doesn't find very interesting. If that's the case, the shelves will be stocked full of ps3s while the Xbox 360 rack has tumbleweeds pouring from it like the theater at a Kevin Costner premiere. I think it all comes down to Sony keeping the public interest high while they're waiting on systems. On that note, the Blu-Ray will be a large selling point for this system, I know alot of people who bought the ps2 primarily for a dvd player with the added feature of videogaming grandeur as a secondary selling point. I dont want anyone to fail in the console wars. I like options. -------------------- Feeling unknown And youre all alone Flesh and bone By the telephone Lift up the receiver Ill make you a believer |
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Posted: 9th September 2006 02:25
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Holy Swordsman Posts: 2,154 Joined: 9/10/2005 Awards: |
Not very surprising, to me. And considering that the (hopefully) smart people that'd wait longer for first-run bugs to be sorted out and a lower price, that'd be even longer. But, on the bright side, at least that'd give you time for all the good games to come out for it.
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