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I ended up taking on the ancient library as soon as I got there, which was at level 19. As i progressed, i was easily killing the enemies, and even Ifrit, who i completely forgot about, i beat fairly easily. However, as i fought Byblos, i seem to suck. All enemies i can beat like *that*. When it comes to bosses, i can't do a thing. It's quite irritating, but i guess i need to train anyways, since Sandworm is soon after. Last time, I was the luckiest guy on earth. I'm not gonna be underleveled when i get there.

As for Byblos, i could leave the Ancient library and train more, or i can keep trying. He only has 600 more HP than LiquidFlame, but keeps on using Protes when i attack. By the end, i'm only doing about 100 damage, when i can get up to 500.

Hehe... whew.

This is turning out to be a fun (if impossible) challenge!

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

You're crazy.

On my game, I already got all of my thieves above LV 70, but now all I'm just doing is saving up alot of Gil to buy Elixirs.

Oh maaan...

DO NOT USE A CODE TO SET YOUR JOB! Sure it's great early on, but I soon realized that my stats were not those of a berzerker. As soon as I got the crystal that allowed me to make a berzerker, I set it manually and the difference was STUNNING. HP increased to 150% of what it was and strength doubled!!

So technically, what I've been doing so far was like playing a jobless char while grinding 'A' and with nothing but axes and knives.

Edit: Hehe, so far so good, now that I have proper stats.
Edit2: SolCannon! But... he's much easier than I thought. I can't quite beat it yet, but SurgeBeam only does 800 damage. I'm about level 35 and can dish out up to nearly 3000 damage + small cannons before dying if lucky. If I powerlevel a bit, I'm pretty confident it won't be any trouble taking him down...

The REAL toughie was that god damned sandworm! I spent all evening trying to kill it. Pure luck. Nothing but pure luck. There's no other way to beat that damned thing... :/ And I doubt I'll ever be lucky enough to hit it 5 conscecutive times again in one battle. Unless there's a trick to it that could've saved me nearly 4 hours of reloading and crossing my fingers.

I know I'll hit a snag eventually (if a 4 berzerker SCC challenge is impossible, then a single character berzerker SCC challenge is even less possible!) but I don't think it'll be SolCannon. At this rate I might get lucky on one of my runs.

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 7th February 2006 07:38

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

Wow, that is smooth. but anyway I am finally past the byblos pallate switch. yea i'll be at exdeath soon.

Edit: i'm ahppy you actually have normal stats.

This post has been edited by berskersrpretty on 7th February 2006 03:05

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SCC completed: berserkers !!!
SCC working on: black mage
SCSJ I working on: red mage , blue mage.

I think it was because of Atomos that a single Berserker is impossible. I seem to recall Caesar saying you have to be about level 70 to survive.

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Beat Byblos with Faris only survivor. Level 20!! Now to do what i should have done a loooooooong time ago. Level up!!

This post has been edited by footbigmike on 7th February 2006 18:34

Level 70? Naw. Atomos wasn't too bad, to be perfectly honest. Faris (I think it was Faris) was able to take like 3 comets before she died, IIRC. I only lost her in that battle.

But yea, with a single berserker, look out.

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Is PJ

I'll be lucky if I can even come close to Atomos...

Level 50(!) and Sol Cannon is still beating me. However, I've come very close to killing it on a few lucky rounds where I'd target nothing but the cannon itself and hit 2-3 times with a critical (I do over 1200 damage on crits.) If I'm patient enough to gain maybe 5-10 more levels, it'll just be a matter of luck.

Considering damage is based on your HP, having more HP in this fight doesn't quite make as much a difference as being able to dish out more damage. It's too early to take advantage of equipment for this sort of thing though. But the damage formula for axes takes your level into consideration, so higher levelled characters means more damage, which in turn means the cannon dies faster, WHICH in turn means less hits by that stupid beam.

Current records
Most damage on cannon: about 6500 damage.
Most beams taken on the chin before kicking the bucket: 2 (killed by the second one.)
Most rounds survived: 7 + 4 -> 11.

11 rounds to kill it. It has... about 10k hp? If I can do over 1k per hit each round, I should be able to take out the lil' launchers and the cannon. My regular attacks only do about 800 though, and I miss sometimes, so some levellage will be required...

On a side-note, I was curious and wanted to see if it is beatable and patched in a code to level to 99. At level 99, after 3 attempts, it went down. So I now know I'm not just wasting my time anymore. ...And truly hope I won't have to level up to 99 on enemy formations that give ~1000 exp per kill.

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

RL, unequip your character of EVERYTHING except the strongest weapon available to you (I forgot which, sorry), and the Strength Robe (since that doesn't affect equipment weight, I don't believe). You will find yourself attacking more frequently, and although you would take more damage from physical attacks, you will find that doesn't matter since all of Sol Cannon's attacks are HP-based. Therefore, do it.

And I remember doing like 1200 per hit normally at a lower level than that. Let me find my game and reload a state to see if it's not just a bad memory.

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No luck finding an earlier savestate. The earliest I could find was level 43 and I was dealing ~1400 damage with Death Scythe.

This post has been edited by Caesar on 8th February 2006 00:48

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Is PJ

I think the strongest weapon you can get at that point is the death scythe. Strength robe, though, you can't get until later on in the game (unless I missed something? I'm keeping my fingers crossed here! )

I'll try unequipping stuff. Maybe a few extra hits are just what I need to beat it...

Edit: Seems 7 or less weight count as none, as the game divides by 8 and rounds down. Kenpo robe gives a small boost to str and increases weight by 3. Elf cape increases it by 1 and boosts agi by 1, meaning I get a speed increase right there. That setup allowed me to land an extra attack. Plus, my damage seems to be around 1400-1500 at that point.

The algorithm for axes is...
(Rand((WeaponAttack x 0.5) .. (WeaponAttack x 1.5)) - EnemyDef) x ((Level x Strength) / 128 + 2)
In my case, the formula'd be...
(Rand(20..60) - 5) x ((50 x 50) / 128 + 2)
Rand(15..55) x (2500 / 128 + 2)
Rand(15..55) x (19 + 2)
Rand(15..55) x 21
So from 315 to 1155 damage for a regular hit, and 840 to 2520 for a critical hit.

22500 (damn man, I thought it had way less than that!) means ~10 rounds of critical hits. Which is unlikely.

More levelling will be required.

Edit: Must've done over 12k before aging kicked in too hard! Talk about luck, too. At this rate maybe it IS possible if I gain a few more levels... gonna take some mad luck though. And patience... I can gain 1 level every 15-20 minutes or so WITH the fastforward key... It's not the damage that sucks so much as aging; aging means less damage, which means more attacks launched at me. Which means I die.

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 8th February 2006 02:24

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

No strength robe? I thought crescent sold those.

Darn...I guess my memory isn't as good as it would seem.

Good luck, RL!

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Yea, there's no doubt about it, you can't get that in World 1. My bad.

This post has been edited by Caesar on 8th February 2006 02:20

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Is PJ

Quote (Caesar @ 7th February 2006 21:14)

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Yea, there's no doubt about it, you can't get that in World 1. My bad.

True, but you can still buy them at Kelb and Surgate during Galuf's World.

You can still get to Surgate before getting the submarine =)

Yea, but that doesn't help in the fight against Sol Cannon.

It might help against Atomos, but even that is doubtful...the added Magic defense might be more desirable than more attacks. But then again, what would I know? I used four characters.

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Is PJ

That's +3 str, I think...?

Judging from the damage formula, by the time you reach Atomos it won't make too much of a difference. Being able to land an extra hit before dying might be a better deal than being able to do ~100 extra damage per attack... but I dunno. Haven't checked, I don't feel like screwing about with damage algorithms right now. I've pretty much taken a break for the night and my brain's now in Endless Saga mode.

Then again... with just one char, I don't think it'll make a difference either way at that point.

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

Oh! Duh. I almost forgot. Angel Ring. You're bound to have heaps of gold lying around from all that leveling. Buy an Angel Ring and watch yourself not age. Not age = more damage. More damage = less Sol Cannon.

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Bought in Istory Falls for 50k. That might be useful info to know.

This post has been edited by Caesar on 8th February 2006 02:48

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Is PJ

Damn! I knew I forgot something! I had that but swapped it out for an elf cape. Totally forgot about the status immunities it gave! Caesar man, I owe you one. I'm gonna beat this bad boy tonight, I'm sure of it now!

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(That should read "Berserker luck!!" come to think of it. Level 62, absolutely perfect fight. And I thought that sandworm was a tough one...)

Totally breezed through the ruins. I pretty much held fastfoward the whole way. But now the puroboros (sp?) boss is owning me quite hard. Exploder hurts. 6 exploders in a row hurt hard.


Aw god damnit. :x

Edit 2: Ok, I figured out how to kill this boss. Level 64, equip the DoomCut axe, Stealth robe, Elf Cape, and nothing else. Your speed will be pretty high and your evade high enough not to worry about physical damage all that much. Doomcut will force it to use Arise when it kills one of them, which whittles away their MP. Soon enough they won't have enough left to use Arise or Exploder anymore. Takes a bit of luck though, as they tend to go a little crazy with Exploder and kill you before you can drain them enough...

Edit 3: What lies in store for Rune and his psychotic berserker from hell?


Y HELO THAR MISTUR LEVAL 1 GALOOF!!

The words "Aw crap..." come to mind when considering my lack of foresight. Looks like this might be the end...?

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 8th February 2006 23:49

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

Well, that's that. I can't beat Gilgamesh with a level 1 Galuf. The only alternative would be substituting him for Butz and using my 'zerker against him.

Anyone else having better luck with their challenges?

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

It was as i approached Easterly village that i realised just how underlevelled i was. Almost every enemy i faced was beating me bad! I healed in Easterly and then began to look for Ramuh in the forest. However, the five minidragons and their frostbite ability forced me to retreat. I was low on health, and by the worst chance possible, encountered Ramuh on the way back. He was easier than i expected, and i managed to survive with all characters.

I'm gonna save money to get some angel rings. Hopefully i'll kill sandworm without too much trouble. Alas, i doubt it will be that easy.

That's right Gilly... have a little DOOM why don'tcha?

Well, seems like I can continue now.

Edit: Ohhh yeah. Atomos is going to be a horrifying pain to beat, if it's even possible!! I can get his comet to do only ~600 damage per use, but he uses it so often it hardly matters. Still, when I'm lucky, I can do some heavy damage to him (at about 1500 per hit, too.) IF I can last just a bit longer, and that's a bit IF, maybe I'll get lucky with criticals and do just enough damage to beat him... but I'll have to level to 80+ and that'll take forever.

My equipment and stats
Poison Axe, Gold Shield, Hypno, Strength robe, AngelRing
Str 52, Agi 16, Vit 52, MPw 3, Atk 48, Def 25, Eva 30, MDf 14, Weight 14 (removing the gold shield drops it to 9, 2 points over the next level, so there's no point...)
6037 hp, level 66

Still, Sol Cannon seemed impossible and I got lucky... but I'm not crossing my fingers for this one. I think I did 10,000 damage on my best attempt (but stupidly had the doomcut instead of poisonaxe) out of ~20,000 hp. :/

Edit 2: IRONY~! First attempt after this post! I kept doing ~2500 per hit for 3-4 rounds straight, and got another hit like that or two in somewhere along the way, screen started flashing, and... surprise.



SolCannon was the hardest to date, tied in closely with that sand worm. Atomos was though but died pretty fast all things considered. Gotta love having party members to keep him busy with all that sucking to get a few hits in before the meteor shower!

Edit 3: Aaaand doomcut works on the seal crystals. Too damned easy. XD

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 12th February 2006 05:52

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

At level 21. This is annoying. I need a place where i can get good EXP, because at the moment i'm getting 300 per battle, and my characters need about 3000-4000 to level up. The MiniDragons give 900 EXP each, and there are always 5 of them, so i can get about 1100 EXP if i beat them. I'd be fine if they just used physical, but no - they have to use Frostbite, don't they?

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Since i still had Mythril Hammers, i checked the FFV section and it said that there were Cleavers in Jacohl. Went and bout four, then remembered a little place just of Crescent island that I usually train at at the end of World 1. With the Black Chocobo, however, there's only one island i can land on. Encountered a few "Crescent" enemies. The first one i defeated dropped a Death Scythe. So, fairly quickly, my attack power has gone from 28 to 43. After a while i managed to get a Death Scythe for everyone. Now i'm level 23, and going to take on SandWorm again. Does anyone know if he's susceptible to Death?

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Edit 2: Although i'm doing much more damage with the Death Scythes, they rarely hit SandWorm. The holes don't like having Death cast on them, and counter with two Demi's instead of 1. It's very depressing to die from Quicksand, which, as Silverlance said, only does about 60 max.

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Edit3: I can now take down those Minidragon's easily, and I am gaining levels easily. I reckon if i get Angel Rings, SolCannon will be a piece of cake compared to Sandworm. I don't exactly believe that, though.

Is it actually possible to complete a Bersekrer SCC, or is there no possible way on earth that you can?

This post has been edited by footbigmike on 12th February 2006 20:55

I'm not sure if there is a way to beat it win only Berserkers. I'm stuck on the final boss, and I've pretty much given up trying. For anyone trying it, you could try reading some of my posts earlier in this thread. I left some of my strategies against late-game bosses there, which might be helpful (e.g. if you didn't know that death works on the seal crystals). Might be worth a read to save yourself some frustration.

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Is PJ

Quote (Caesar @ 12th February 2006 16:30)

I'm not sure if there is a way to beat it win only Berserkers. I'm stuck on the final boss, and I've pretty much given up trying. For anyone trying it, you could try reading some of my posts earlier in this thread. I left some of my strategies against late-game bosses there, which might be helpful (e.g. if you didn't know that death works on the seal crystals). Might be worth a read to save yourself some frustration.

Heh.. Even my thieves are stuck there too. It's all because of *beep* Exdeath's White Hole. I don't think that any other equipment but Ribbon can prevent it, but since thieves can't equip Ribbons, tough luck =P

By the way, doesn't Bone Mail prevent petrification and death? If so, then I'm saved =)

Hrm, I know for sure a SCSJC (Single Character, Single Job Challenge) with a berserker is impossible to beat, but with 4 and an amazing amount of luck, maybe. Maybe if you get the right hits in and luck out on criticals throughout the entire battle. But the chance of that happening are terrifyingly low. Maybe too low. Not being able to heal is a horrible pain, and being so slow doesn't help.

To beat the sandworm, you just need luck. There's no way out. Either you hit the worm or one of the holes. If you hit the holes, you'll rapidly end up dead after just a few rounds. If you hit the worm a few times, though, it's all good...

At level 50-ish, with the doom axe, a berserker "only" has to hit the worm 3-4 times. Your level affects the damage you do as much as strength, but that last one can't be affected by more than a few points. So gain levels. The best place you can level at right now is where you got that axe. Not sure if exp is shared or not, but I used to get ~1000 exp per fight. The fast forward key is your friend.

Not sure which class I'll do next... those dudes that use the terrain to attack? Or beast tamer, maybe...? Playing a berserker is boring, it's either luck or patience. Too few axes to even bother hunting for equipment (other than the doom axe.) No control at all in battle. Too slow to run from battles when trying to make it back to the boss. And all that levelling, GOD, THE LEVELLING UP!! ;

This post has been edited by Silverlance on 13th February 2006 01:42

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"Judge not a man by his thoughts and words, but by
the quality and quantity of liquor in his possession
and the likelyhood of him sharing."

Level 29 with about 1250 HP each. The best place i can level is with the MiniDragons, they give 1125 EXP each character per battle. Sandworm is still whooping me. I might leave it and return to it later.

I want to do a SCSJC, but I have the PS1 version and don't know the character 2, 3, 4 always dead codes. Any help? I was thinking of a Mystic Knight.

It seems strange that the most popular SCC seems to be berserker. Or maybe that's just the most popular one to post and rant about. I never did leave W1 with my berserkers. I eventually got bored with mindless overleveling and worked on some happy Blue Mage SCC fun. Im not really playing by "the rules" so to speak, because I more or less just wanted to lay waste to the hordes of darkness that surround me, so I went ahead and mastered Trainer with all my characters too. Essentially this doesn't change anything from a normal game, but considering how much pain and suffering I am dishing out without barely taking a scratch, it's totally, totally worth it.

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Oh sure, I don't have to get kicked in the junk to activate it, but I like it anyway. -- Thief commenting on the difference between Throw and Blue Magic.

well, I got bored seeing as I got to neo exdeath and such so I had an idea which involved my berskers so I booted up a slightly early game and turned my berserkers into nijas with berserk and gave them all double lances. wow let me tell you dong 1600 dmg x4 with everyone is absolutly amazing. also I think after I master ninja ill turn one back into a berserker and give him two axes, amy more ideas?

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SCC completed: berserkers !!!
SCC working on: black mage
SCSJ I working on: red mage , blue mage.

The things you find when you get bored and search your name on Google...

Cool to see people are still doing these challenges - I've had a lot of fun with them.


ND

Well, if it isn't the FFV SCC legend himself! Welcome to the caves, Not Dave!

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Is PJ

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Y HELO THAR MISTUR LEVAL 1 GALOOF!!

hahahaha
Well I'm bored out of my misery, it's summer I'm grounded, injuredm and don't have a liscense. So I went what the hell why not try a solo Archer. I rarely play FFV but I've always like archers.

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Forgot to turn on dead character cheats, so the characters leveled up with Butz. More Recently I beat Karl Boss, he was surprisingly easy. He just got eaten to death by squirrels.

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and apparently gala cats are immune to squirrels
But Magissa Isn't
Shortly afterwards Garula was easier than I thought took only 4 rounds of suirrels to do him in level was 15
After Killing 5 of these buggers two robots drop down and kill, first time that I have to focuse on leveling up
I am finished for the night with Gunner at level 22

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FFV SSCC are very fun, a lot more fun than just playing the game.
Day2-
had to go back to the forest to level up, but stupid animal command keeps doing nightengale when i don't need it, so I have to bust out my machete.
Got to level 27 decided to try out Liquid Flame, the battle took awhile and 2 out of 3 forms ran out of MP, i still keep getting nightengale for some reason. so i had to whittle him down with my dagger, beat him on first try.
And for my reward I got a Bow! Finally.
Now I can take on Shiva.
Lost to ifrit, because he's immune to fire and animals is stuck on squirrels now, which does just as much damage as me and my knife, So I'm going to level up probably to level 31. Nix that Ifrit can still kick may ass. doing flame 3x in a row. Not to mention he paralyzes me. I need X-fight to take out this bastard. I only have 100 points to go.
Thank God for bander Snatches
Update(Beat Ifrit andRamuh) Byblos-Adamantain easy, just kept on using X-fight no healing neccessary. Currentl lvl 33. leveling up to beat sol cannon, missile takes away too much HP]

This post has been edited by Cloud_Strife510 on 6th July 2006 00:25

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"Have you ever seen a baby do that before?"

try beating the game as a party of Bares

This post has been edited by Zantetsuken on 6th July 2006 03:03

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