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it could be TERRA since you start out with her
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Posted: 17th November 2003 03:39
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By definition, the main character is the one who the story is centered around. The story doesn't center around Locke as more than the other characters, and it centers around Terra the longest.
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Posted: 17th November 2003 04:35
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Of course, it's Terra. She's the one on the Magitek in the Square designs, the one who's story starts and is revolved around plot wise .. *thinking* "Zozo where everybody's huddled around a Human-Esper Hybrid" ..
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Posted: 18th November 2003 04:35
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by that logic tribunal, then KAIN would be the main character of FF4. also, locke does become the central character for a good period of time. (i.e. after the sceanrio's until the WoR, then celes would be). but its really a moot point, because people are gonna believe who they think are the main character and nobody can change that. however i would state that im one of the few who would believe locke is.
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Posted: 18th November 2003 05:05
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The same logic need not be used in two differing games. In FF4 Cecil is the character you're forced to use throughout the game and he calls all the shots. There is no such character in FF6. The game suggests that Terra is the main character based on the things that Living Tribunal mentioned.
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Posted: 18th November 2003 05:54
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Terra's place and her actions (albeit under the influence of the slave crown) spark the entire story. I think most of the characters (that excludes Gau, Mog, Relm, Umaro, and Gogo) have a lot of character development and large role in the plot, so you can't pick a main character by how much they influence what goes on, unless you choose Terra because where she was when and what she did started it all.
Edit: This, however, is very debatable, and many people believe that FFVI was constructed in such a way that there is not true main character. In any case, Terra was not a main character the way Cecil or Crono was. This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 18th November 2003 05:56 -------------------- Check the "What games are you playing at the moment?" thread for updates on what I've been playing. You can find me on the Fediverse! I use Mastodon, where I am @[email protected] ( https://sakurajima.moe/@glennmagusharvey ) |
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Posted: 18th November 2003 18:49
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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 18th November 2003 00:54) Terra's place and her actions (albeit under the influence of the slave crown) spark the entire story. I think most of the characters (that excludes Gau, Mog, Relm, Umaro, and Gogo) have a lot of character development and large role in the plot, so you can't pick a main character by how much they influence what goes on, unless you choose Terra because where she was when and what she did started it all. Edit: This, however, is very debatable, and many people believe that FFVI was constructed in such a way that there is not true main character. In any case, Terra was not a main character the way Cecil or Crono was. it wasn't necccessarily sparked by terra's existence, it just made it more interesting, remember, there was already a revolution of sorts... and plenty of players. but terra made it better. sdm -------------------- ?gnisufnoc siht sI |
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Posted: 18th November 2003 19:05
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sonic, you are right about Terra being the spark, but I believe that she is still the main character. A lot of stuff that goes on in the story ends up going back to Terra. That is why I think that Terra is the main character.
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I believe Locke is the main character. Won't argue and discuss about it.
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Posted: 18th November 2003 21:05
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yeah, i guess ill stick with my decision on locke. but i wont harass anyone about terra, she is about as important as him in the game.
wait OMG! maybe, just maybe(i just thought about it i swear, no sarcasm) there is no main character persay. there are a GROUP of main characters, like you would read in a fantasy novel. lemme elaborate for you people: clearly, all of the actions in the game would still have taken place if terra was not part of the party. hell, if she was against you, she would possibly have been another boss. celes had attempted to rebel(or at least escape) from under the control of the Empire. this DID happen, no matter what terra did. whether or not locke could have rescued her is debatable, but that fact still remains. edgar was conspiring with banon the whole time, and although he may not have acted as quickly, would still have rebelled against the empire. sabin, like edgar would have gone off against the empire. whether he would have done it alone, or recounciled with his brother is once again, debatable. however, he would have fought the empire one way or another. cyan--most likely would have perished. lets face it, sabin most likely would not have been there to rescue cyan from the empire during the doma event if he had not traveled with edgar's group. even if cyan SOMEHOW managed to defeat the whole battalion of soldiers, he in no way would have been able to survive for very long. gau,relm,strago, gogo, umaro, and mog would have just gone along their merry way like nothing happened. setzer may have, yet i still think he would have somehow still been drawn into this epic struggle. shadow, well there are two sides to him. on one hand, he does help out the good guys. but on the other, he leaves your party and (if you can make any kind of connections) goes and informs the emperor of the whereabouts of the statues, thus giving kefka the ability to make the WoR possible. I believe that shadow would have most likely stayed with the empire until he was ultimately killed somehow. however he may have joined your team. probably depends on who paid him more... now for locke-- clearly, he was out for the empire. he had connections with kings and with generals so that he could achieve his goal. there would have been nothing that would have stopped him. the entire game could have easily revolved around him. its not like it would have been the first time that a game used the vengenance seeking warrior. He most likely would have still met up with celes and rescued her, but i cannot say for certain that this would have happened. this is clear speculation on my part, i am NOT saying it would be JUST LIKE THAT. Everything that i stated can be argued in some way or the other, and i would be glad to discuss it. now for the cast of main characters, i think it would go like this: 1st. Locke and Terra 2nd. Edgar 3rd Celes 4th Sabin 5th Setzer the rest of the characters would most likely not even be affected by this war until it was too late, died, or actually joined the empire. ill leave it to you readers on who i am talking about. later ![]() -------------------- once you can accept yourself, you will never be alone |
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Posted: 18th November 2003 23:40
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That's probably about right. Or... maybe Kefka is the main character.
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Posted: 19th November 2003 22:56
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![]() of course! he does move the story forward. although, he would be considered the antagonist. he is clearly the main character for the "bad guys". -------------------- once you can accept yourself, you will never be alone |
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Posted: 21st November 2003 20:37
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Ok lets get some facts straight, main character is terra. Why because she is the first Character you see and play as. This follows a pattern such as in FF7,8,9 the first Character you see and play as in 7 is cloud and he is the main, 8 is squall and 9 is zidane also if you would care to observe most things involve terra like in Zozo and such.
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Posted: 22nd November 2003 07:33
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1.in Lufia you play as Maxim first.
2.Castlevania SOTN you play as Richter first. 3. in Wildarms 1 and 2, you can choose to whom youd like to play first as. 4.In Final Fantasy 1, the player starts off with four characters at once(try to figure that out. shouldnt be hard). So Cloud, as you can see, just because you play as a character first, doesn't necessarily mean that they are the main character. more likely then not they are, but not 100% of the time. and in this particular game, you can't base Terra as the main character just because you happen to play as her first. You could have just as easily started the game playing as Locke or Celes. Hell, you could have even started as Edgar. This post has been edited by the n00binator on 22nd November 2003 07:33 -------------------- once you can accept yourself, you will never be alone |
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Posted: 22nd November 2003 12:54
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Quote (the n00binator @ 22nd November 2003 01:33) 1.in Lufia you play as Maxim first. 2.Castlevania SOTN you play as Richter first. 3. in Wildarms 1 and 2, you can choose to whom youd like to play first as. 4.In Final Fantasy 1, the player starts off with four characters at once(try to figure that out. shouldnt be hard). So Cloud, as you can see, just because you play as a character first, doesn't necessarily mean that they are the main character. more likely then not they are, but not 100% of the time. and in this particular game, you can't base Terra as the main character just because you happen to play as her first. You could have just as easily started the game playing as Locke or Celes. Hell, you could have even started as Edgar. Here's the flipside to the argument. You've proven only that you don't play as the main character in SOME games. That has just as little bearing on FF6 as what Cloud Strife said. You can't tell him he can't use precedent to decide and then use a different precedent of your own. Also, unless they are changing your mind, there's no need to have posted four times in this thread. We already got your answer. For my two cents, I think that the main character is Terra. She actually is the catalyst for the events that occur in the WoB, and the WoR is so thin on actual plot that I don't truly recall Celes having any goal in the WoR other than "FIND FRIENDS SMASH KEFKA." All the plot is exposition. -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 18:59
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I'm curious about what people have to say about the argument of whether or not there is actually a main character in the game, and if so, who it is.
My argument is that Terra is the main character, and I'm guessing many will agree, but I have heard otherwise from several people. Here's why I feel she's the main character: 1) She is the very first character you get. 2) The entire fight against the Empire is based on using her abilities. Possible spoilers: highlight to view 3) If you complete a CES (Celes/Edgar/Setzer) game, Terra shows up and helps you fight Kefka, meaning you have to have her there. I'd like to see what others have to say on this topic. Moderator Edit Thought I would help you out and show you the spoiler tag we have here. -R51 -------- sbq92 <>< This post has been edited by Rangers51 on 3rd February 2004 19:03 -------------------- --sbq92 <>< |
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 19:23
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I think it's a combo between Terra & Celes. Either you doin something w/ or for Terra or w/ for Celes. As for everyone else, they might have thier own role in the game, and they are good fighters.
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 19:44
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Watchu talkin' about? In my opinion, it's Locke, and he stems down into Terra and Celes. There are several reasons for Locke:
1) The game is basically about the returner's war against the empire, and Locke and Edgar are two of the oldest members, (unless I'm mistaken. I'm not too clear on the beginning of the game, I haven't started a new game for a year). 2) Although Terra appears to have more of a role, and Celes too, Locke is basically their guardian and it's about his travels. I think so anyway. The greatest thing about Locke is he's a common thief who had to face the evil in the world so stood up to it when noone else would - he made a vow to protect Terra and Celes (I think so anyway). Possible spoilers: highlight to view At the beginning of the game he's kind of the Guardian of Magic if you will, since he's protecting the only source of magic and keeping it from getting snatched by the Empire - Terra. Although his past turmoil Possible spoilers: highlight to view isn't as related to the Empire as Terra's and Celes', he's still got the majorest role. with Rachel's accident and all 3) I'm not sure, but don't you have to use Locke the most in the WOB, (not WOR, since there are only a few people you have to use.) 4) Also, you can't deny Locke is the leader. Some people's views might differ here but I think he took up the leadership responsibility very early on in the game, which is why even though he's not around for too much in the WOR, he's the main character (in my opinion). Feel free to throw insults and poke my theory with large sticks. ![]() This post has been edited by Iggy on 3rd February 2004 22:01 -------------------- "Luck is my middle name. Mind you, my first name is Bad." - Rincewind You can be as self-assertive as you like, just so long as you do what you’re told.†- Granny Weatherwax "When Mr. Safety Catch Is Not On, Mister Crossbow Is Not Your Friend" - Sam Vimes to Detritus |
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 19:46
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In my this is basically the only FF game, besides FF1 and FF2, that there is no main character. Every other game had a obvious main character, FF4 had Cecil, FF5 had Bartz, FF7 had Cloud, FF8 had Squall, FF9 had Zidane, FF10 Tidus, FF10-2 Yuna. The closest main character in FF6 to me would be either Terra, Celes, or Locke.
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 20:20
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Merged the two topics together. And I got the poll right! So people who posted their comments but didn't post in a poll can come back and have fun with that.
Anyway, I chose Terra, because I think the game focuses the most about magic, and she is the purest embodiment of magic that there is. Though Celes is also "pure" as her character description states, her magic was infused, and in a way, she's tainted. Terra is, without question in my mind, the main character in the WoB, and while Celes plays a greater role in the WoR, I think Terra's impact on the story is greater. -------------------- Hey, put the cellphone down for a while In the night there is something wild Can you hear it breathing? And hey, put the laptop down for a while In the night there is something wild I feel it, it's leaving me |
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 20:41
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Quote (0dark @ 21st November 2003 15:37) Ok lets get some facts straight, main character is terra. Why because she is the first Character you see and play as. This follows a pattern such as in FF7,8,9 the first Character you see and play as in 7 is cloud and he is the main, 8 is squall and 9 is zidane also if you would care to observe most things involve terra like in Zozo and such. You can't just say that, Odark. It's a poll, and seeing as we need this poll Squaresoft made the game that who the main character is could be debated like this. There is no right answer, just as there is no wrong answer. Hell, if someone thinks Gogo is the main character than that's fine, they're not wrong. ![]() -------------------- "Luck is my middle name. Mind you, my first name is Bad." - Rincewind You can be as self-assertive as you like, just so long as you do what you’re told.†- Granny Weatherwax "When Mr. Safety Catch Is Not On, Mister Crossbow Is Not Your Friend" - Sam Vimes to Detritus |
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 21:34
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Terra. She's the person you start with and she's vital to the story. But really, FFVI is a game who needs no main character. It stands alone as being totally awesome partly because it has no main character.
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Posted: 3rd February 2004 21:46
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The Main charecter is definatly, without question Interceptor (Shadow's Dog... atleast I think that was his name.....)
But seriously. I voted Terra. I was trying to debate between Terra and Celes, and ended up choosing Terra, because it seems that more of the story line centers around her. The Espers and magic and stuff, plus through the first half of the game, she is one of the main "required charecters" to bring, while through the WoR, there really aren't any "required charecters" (except for doing sidequests and up untill you get the airship) -------------------- "And that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana-shaped” -Sir Bedevere the Wise |
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I voted for other, as I feel there is no true main character within FFVI. I actually loved this aspect when I played through it initially, as it sort of let me structure my party and the story that unfolded around any character I chose to (especially in the WoR).
I tend not to dwell on who was the character that sparked the entire story or who you spend the entire story helping, etc. Just because Terra sparked the entire story to unfold at the time it did, it does not mean we can label her as the main character. Many stories / game open with an introduction to a character or a problem caused by a character who is not the main character. (ex: Slade the rat in Shining Force II removes the jewels of Good and Evil thus bringing a great terror unto the land, but Bowie is the main character and leader of the Shining Force... he just sets out against a problem caused by another.) Had it not been for a key group of others, Terra would not have chosen to battle against the empire and most likely would have been captured once again. I would say there is a core group of characters that the plot truly revolves around, as stated by someone earlier. Terra, Locke, Edgar (sorta), and Celes are really the core characters the story wraps around. Setzer just for his airship may be necessary as he provides passage to Kefka's tower.... but the main storyline does not make him as integral as the core characters mentioned earlier (as much as I would like to say it does... he is my favorite ff hero). Sure, the game opened with Terra... but she is in a helpless state so often throughout the game that I just can't see her as a main character individually. However, considering her role as a catalyst in the struggle between the returners and the empire as well as the actions of Locke, Edgar, and Celes in coming to her aid and becoming the focus of the storyline at certain points, I can comfortably label that group of "core" characters as the main ones. -------------------- Je ne t'aime plus, Mon amour... Je ne t'aime plus, Tous les jours... |
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Posted: 4th February 2004 15:43
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Terra's the main character. Like was stated earlier, the game doesn't necessarily need a main character, but there still is one. Proof of this:
1) Terra is the character you start with. Possible spoilers: highlight to view 2) The entire war against the Empire is based upon her decision to help or not. 3) You can't finish the game without her. In a CES(Celes/Edgar/Setzer) game (and possibly any game in which you don't go and find her), she shows up at the end when you fight Kefka and lends you a hand. Some other proofs are posted throughout this thread. -------- sbq92 <>< -------------------- --sbq92 <>< |
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Posted: 4th February 2004 20:05
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Quote (Iggy @ 3rd February 2004 14:44) Feel free to throw insults and poke my theory with large sticks. ![]() Ok. Quote (Iggy @ 3rd February 2004 14:44) 1) The game is basically about the returner's war against the empire, and Locke and Edgar are two of the oldest members, (unless I'm mistaken. I'm not too clear on the beginning of the game, I haven't started a new game for a year). Seniority doesn't (necessarily) mean anything. You may as well say Edge was the main character of IV, since he was fighting Golbeze's cronies before Cecil began to. Quote (Iggy @ 3rd February 2004 14:44) 2) Although Terra appears to have more of a role, and Celes too, Locke is basically their guardian and it's about his travels. I think so anyway. Very rarely is the "guardian" the main character of the story, and not the one he's guarding. For example, Steiner is Dagger's guardian in IX, but Dagger is more of a main character than he is. Quote (Iggy @ 3rd February 2004 14:44) 3) I'm not sure, but don't you have to use Locke the most in the WOB, (not WOR, since there are only a few people you have to use.) About as much time as you are required to use Terra and Celes. Besides, quantity doesn't necessarily mean anything. For example, (stupid comparison, I know), in DBZ RPG, Goku is the main character, but he is rarely present. Quote (Iggy @ 3rd February 2004 14:44) 4) Also, you can't deny Locke is the leader. Some people's views might differ here but I think he took up the leadership responsibility very early on in the game, which is why even though he's not around for too much in the WOR, he's the main character (in my opinion). When did he distinguish himself as a leader? When he vowed to follow and protect Celes? The leaders in this game were Edgar, Cyan (not so much within the time you have him, though), and (to an extent) Setzer. But Terra is stil the main character. -------------------- "I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books." -Brad Meltzer |
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Posted: 6th April 2004 13:22
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Let's settle this once and for all. Who is the the true main character in FFVI? It has to be only one character, no doubles. Don't just say it, prove it.
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Posted: 6th April 2004 18:31
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Terra. The "missing link", the "witch who invaded Narshe", the key to the Returners' success, and she returns in the WoR even if you don't seek her out. She's that important to the story.
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Posted: 6th April 2004 18:54
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Yes, this should be in the FFVI forum.
Terra is the main character. You start with her, so much of the the story revolves around her, and she doesn't talk a whole lot. Main character, definitely. This really should have been a poll, and I think we've already had a poll that dealt with this same subject. I could be wrong, though..... -------------------- Wow. 1,000 posts. I miss you all now that I'm in boarding school! ;_; |
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Posted: 6th April 2004 19:32
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It has to be Terra, she is definently the main character, and also I think there was a poll on who was the main character in FFVI anyway.
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