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Posted: 23rd March 2010 02:25

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So I'm going out to a little celebration in my name with some friends in the building and like, they've decided to go out to Korean BBQ... where you're supposed to cook the food yourself. I've heard about it before, I hear cooking the food is fun but from a practical point of view, I'm no chef and I'm thinking like, why go to out to restaurant where they don't cook the food for you. If I wanted to cook my own food, I'd like go to the store, buy the ingredients myself come back, cook it here in the wok with the added benefit of having a cookbook on hand. You have to go through all those same steps anyway to cook it there (except it's a grill instead of a wok but that seems such a minor detail since it'd probably taste so similar). I dare not bring this thought up so soon before going with any of them since it's supposed to be a nice little thing, so I'm probably going anyway but I'm kinda thinking like, huh? huh.gif

Oh, and before anyone even suggests it, we have a super good dishwasher here that cleans things spotless, even without presoaking, so that's no big deal.

Essentially, I don't get it and I'm sure there are a lot of crazy things people do that you don't get either. This is a topic for sharing what and why. Anyway, I'm a bit short for time, so I'll see you guys later. (Hopes this hasn't been done before, since the search button would eat up all my time...)

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Posted: 23rd March 2010 02:39

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One thing I don't get: Twitter. The whole thing sounds narcissistic to the Nth degree. Celebrity worship, etc. "Oh lol poop coming out now"

Another thing I don't get: Whale Wars. Most ineffective eco-terrorists ever, and yet the show is a hit. Is it because the people who disagree with Sea Shepherd just tune in in droves to watch them fail?



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Posted: 23rd March 2010 03:27

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Korean BBQ uses certain meats prepared in certain ways, with certain flavors and dips that you won't usually have or be able to replicate at home. Sure, you could go through all the trouble of finding a Korean bbq recipe online, buying all the wierd ingredients at some out-of-the-way Korean store, and going at it, but even then you won't usually get the variety and styles that you'll find at a Korean BBQ unless you try maybe 5 recipes at once, plus a recipe can only take you so far. Plus, you usually get all those cool little complementary appetizer dishes when you go in a group (one of my favorite parts about Korean restaurants- tip: refills on those are free). Anyway, the point is that the cool thing about going to an exotic restaurant is that they will prepare the food in a way that they do it where they live, and you are invited to experience how they do it in their country and get a glimpse of their world, and adding heat to the food is only a small part of the preparation and presentation. Another reason Koreans like Korean BBQ is that you get to eat the meat fresh off the grill; you get to smell it as it cooks, and watch it simmer, and snatch it up right when it's still hot and juicy and just how you like it, and/or quench its heat in some delectable sauce, and/or wrap in in a cool lettuce leaf with rice. I would encourage you to keep an open mind, and try not to oversimplify things. wink.gif
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Posted: 23rd March 2010 04:04

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Finalalias is right. Korean BBQ is great. Besides, I don't know about the place you're going to, but at a lot of Korean BBQ restaurants the servers cook the first round of meat for you. The practice of eating the meat straight off the grill has to do with the cold weather in Korea. Cooking the meat at the table ensures that it does not cool down before you eat it. Another dish to try that follows the same principle is Chinese hot pot, which is thinly sliced meat cooked in a broth at the table. For both Korean BBQ and Chinese hot pot, the thinness of the meat means that it cooks really fast, so you do not have to wait long to enjoy the great taste.

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Posted: 23rd March 2010 04:23

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One thing I don't get: Twitter. The whole thing sounds narcissistic to the Nth degree. Celebrity worship, etc. "Oh lol poop coming out now"

Oh, I get Twitter. It's basically the most disturbing sign yet that the world's attention span is shrinking and IQ is dropping. I get it, but I also hate it.

What I don't get: the popularity of the Twilight series. Every girl who's read it and whose opinion I trust (a Venn Diagram with an extremely narrow center) tells me the same thing: "it's not well-written, it promotes bad relationships, and the movies have an attractive cast but are probably even worse than the books; I was totally on Team Jacob. The first movie was terrible, and the second movie was worse; you want to go to the DVD release party this weekend?"

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Posted: 23rd March 2010 05:51

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I love Twitter-hate, because essentially it's the same hatred that sites like Facebook got before everyone had one and likewise, with any other cultural gap between groups. Ultimately, the site might be narcissistic, but completely harmless. It certainly isn't the harbinger of the apocalypse! If we survived 4chan and myspace, I think Twitter is hardly a problem at all.

One thing I don't get is this whole hand-sanitizer movement that seems to have grown out of control over the last few years. It seems like everyone carries a bottle of the stuff around at all times, just in case they accidentally touch something that, at some point, might've also been handled by another person, god forbid. Unless you're constantly handling materials that would need that kind of anti-bacterial firepower, it's nothing simply washing your hands from time to time couldn't prevent. Besides, a little bacteria and a few germs are good for you!

Likewise, the whole health-food, extreme dieting movement, even among people who are already in good health and of fair size, deciding suddenly that they want to eat salads and avoid carbs, or try some insane cookie diet and replace meals with vitamin in-take and whatever new plan Oprah is pushing this week. I don't get it, and I'm not sure I want to.

This also applies for Vegans. I don't understand it, I don't think I want to, but it seems to me that, of late, everyone is swearing off meat. I certainly don't buy that it's the healthier life alternative and I can't imagine a life of tofu and bean-dip being very appealing! Life without meat or proper ice cream is just not a life worth living.

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Posted: 23rd March 2010 19:57

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i dont get the whole low carb diet thing. carbs are a staple in your diet, and you kind of need them. then again, im a skinny 18 year old with the metabolism of a crack addict, so i dont get dieting in general.

i also dont get the appeal of rap. its just saying things while someone goes "uns" and someone else says "Hey" and "Ho" in the background. to me, rap and hip hop are just noise that i have never been able to get.

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Posted: 23rd March 2010 21:26

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I dislike Twitter and Facebook not because of cultural dissonance, but because I find that they enable instant gratification, and cause people to willingly give up so much of their own privacy, without even thinking about it first.

Then again, I'm not above using either of them for my own gain.

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Posted: 23rd March 2010 22:09

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Korean BBQ is delicious. As for being able to duplicate it at home, that may be true (though, it would take quite an effort to do so), but as with most restaurant experiences, it's that you don't have to do all that stuff before hand. You can come in with your friends and just go straight to chatting over meal preparation. It's all about the atmosphere.

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This also applies for Vegans. I don't understand it, I don't think I want to, but it seems to me that, of late, everyone is swearing off meat. I certainly don't buy that it's the healthier life alternative and I can't imagine a life of tofu and bean-dip being very appealing! Life without meat or proper ice cream is just not a life worth living.


As for Veganism, I don't get it either. Vegans have to supplement their diets to get all the essential amino acids; I figure if a diet won't allow you to survive, you shouldn't be subscribing to it. Plus, steak is delicious.
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Posted: 24th March 2010 21:09

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I am biologically an omnivore, and I don't see any reason to avoid being one in my lifestyle.

The whole thing about energy-intensive farming practices and methane release might make me reconsider. But for now, I ain't changin'.

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Posted: 24th March 2010 22:49

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I don't get how super markets can sell something in one lane on buy one get one free for £2.40 and then sell the same thing on the end of the same gorram lane for 99p. Maybe they changed math since I was at school and 2.40 is now less than 2x 0.99...

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Posted: 25th March 2010 19:47

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Here's what I don't get, today. It's two-fold.

One, I don't get why Facebook can't get their act together and avoid removing features that developers of Facebook applications need (at least until the features have been replaced properly, not by half-baked ideas). Two, I don't get why people can't understand that we should wait to develop applications until the features are no longer half-baked, so that poor developers don't have to bang their heads against walls for two days straight and still can't create anything that works acceptably.

I am the developer in this situation, if that was not clear. eh.gif

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Posted: 26th March 2010 06:39

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The food was good and I can see there was a lot more preparation than I expected. I sorta thought it would be like a BBQ. It kinda was but there were some buffet elements to it too. You still go through all the basic motions of preparing a more basic meal and utensil use was quite sparring/awkward but it was nice for the experience. Kinda helped that I didn't touch any of the meat myself though, since the waitress did the first couple rounds and the others did all the rest. I dunno if I'd do it again though, since I'm lucky enough to live in a culturally diverse epicenter of fine dining. There are a lot of nice opportunities for yummy food when the budget can be afforded.

Speaking of where I live, this place also has swarms of health food nuts. I don't think I even know a single person living here who doesn't talk about some sorta crazy diet scheme. Vegetarianism for the sake of not eating animals I kinda, sorta get but health-wise I think people just want something that's simpler to understand than the truth so they just come up with all sorts of crazy schemes. I don't particularly care about my own diet though so perhaps I have no room to talk.

You guys may or may not want to use Twitter, I don't get how people even have the time for Twitter. The point is to constantly update it with your current actions, right? Do these people like, have microchips in their brains? Forget going to the toilet, imagine winning the Nobel Peace Prize and opening your speech with "Just a second guys, I've gotta change my status from 'Wow, I won! Walking to the podium now.' to 'Giving the acceptance speech. How exciting!'" As happily addicted to the web as I am, I couldn't possibly imagine constantly putting life on hold just to post one message in any amount of frequent intervals. It just seems so unfocused. Then again that award is another thing I don't get, so maybe the two go hand in hand...

Also, they just wanna torture you R51. It's all about the big great secret conspiracy. You see, they hope to crack you into temporary insanity just long enough to sign a contract that'll have you undertake the arduous task of cleaning up Youtube for the rest of your days. It'd drive memberships to them in droves! Droves I say!... okay perhaps that's a bit over the top but it's about as good an explanation as any, right? Right? biggrin.gif ... pinch.gif

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Posted: 28th March 2010 02:25

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Why the hell does it cost money to even live?

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Posted: 28th March 2010 06:45

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Why the hell does it cost money to even live?

Because nothing in life is free. Even if we did not have a society based on money, there would be costs to living. You might have to hunt down, farm, or gather your food yourself. This would cost you time and effort. If not this, then you would have to produce something of value to someone else so you can barter it for food. Same goes for shelter and clothing. Someone has to make it or maintain it. That's life.

Tonepoet: I'm glad you ended up liking the food. It's always nice to expand your culinary horizons! How familiar are you with other East Asian cuisines?

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Posted: 3rd April 2010 20:54

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Tonepoet, I've never eaten Korean BBQ here, but I have had it quite a few times in Korea. If it's anything here, like it is there, I agree that it is delicious. To me, the experience of making it yourself was always extremely fun. If you liked it then you should look into trying some other Korean cuisines. Korean food is usually spicy, so if you like spicy food I'm sure you'll be able to find plenty of things that are compatible to your taste buds. You can PM me for suggestions if you like.

If you want to know what I don't understand, I would have to say that no matter how hard I try, I can never get a firm grasp of the way cultures in the east think.
This is how the "logic" of the culture works.

Me: So where did you go on vacation?
Korean girl: I went to a few places in Europe.
Me: Oh yeah? That sounds cool. What kind if European food did you try?
Korean girl: I didn't try any. I just took Korean food and ate in my hotel, and ate at Korean restaurants that I found.
Me: Why would you go to France and Italy and not try the food?
Korean girl: Because I am Korean, so I eat Korean food.
Me: Umm, I'm American, but I eat Korean food here in Korea, instead of eating western food.
Korean girl: Yes, you should because you're in Korea.
Me: huh.gif

Note: This conversation did actually occur, and similar conversations occur in Asia on a very regular basis.

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Posted: 3rd April 2010 23:09

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Why the hell does it cost money to even live?

Because nothing in life is free. Even if we did not have a society based on money, there would be costs to living. You might have to hunt down, farm, or gather your food yourself. This would cost you time and effort. If not this, then you would have to produce something of value to someone else so you can barter it for food. Same goes for shelter and clothing. Someone has to make it or maintain it. That's life.

I think he meant if someone can save your life, or repair your health in any way, why is money a reason not to. Presumably to do with medical bills and so on. Am I right? That's a good one actually, I don't understand it either. Denying treatment or piling bills onto someone recently treated or his family is unjust. I also don't understand why people can be so callous towards ill people who're ill of their own act or omission, like smokers or alcoholics. "It's their fault" is a pretty weak argument when we're talking about saving somebody's life or lessening their pain.

Sephiroth, it sounds like she's saying Korean food is better than French food, and everybody should eat it no matter where they are. Since you're in Korea that's the best place to eat Korean food. Nothing to do with eating your own national cuisine. What do you think?

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Posted: 4th April 2010 00:07

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I would tend to disagree, simply because they teach young Koreans to be rascist in school, and that everything Korean is better than everything that isn't. This isn't exclusive to Korea, of course, but it is certainly much worse there than any other country in Asia. My understanding of the conversation told me that she didn't eat French food because it isn't Korean, and if she ate something other than Korean food in the presence of other Koreans it might 'stain' her pur, ethnic Korean image.


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Posted: 4th April 2010 00:19

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Actually, sweetdude, I was talking about cost of living, though medical expenses are part of that anyway.

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Posted: 4th April 2010 01:52

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You know something I don't get? people behavior on vacations, I mean, usually people travel so they can relax and forget the stress of their lives, mainly those who live in big cities, they travel to scape from all this chaos and this huge amount of people that seems to pop from the ground.


The curious thing is that, usually, when theres a several days break due to some special date or anything, EVERYONE goes to the same few places, so the highways get loaded, people take more than the double of the normal time the trip would take, and when get to their destinations, they find, usually, the place full of people, and face the same stressing situations of their normal lives back home, BUT they are smiling as if was nothing happening, like if it was fun. My point is, are people that stupid to pretend that they are really any different they are in their everyday lives? I hope you guys can understand what I mean...

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Posted: 4th April 2010 02:35

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Actually, sweetdude, I was talking about cost of living, though medical expenses are part of that anyway.

I sometimes can't work out how we got to the stage where we put so much value on a slip of paper which says that 'I owe' money to somebody, and then develop a working commercial system. This applies to bank credit too. It's just weird. I mean, theoretically, everyone could just refuse payment by paper money or credit, and gold could go out of fashion. That would make for an interesting set of circumstances.

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Posted: 4th April 2010 05:59

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Well, it would probably be most efficient if people didn't bother with how much stuff they had, and just shared freely, making a few rules wherever necessary to keep limited resources from running dry.

Unfortunately, that sort of system--effectively, communism--doesn't work for groups larger than about 10 people, because people no longer trust each other.

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Posted: 5th April 2010 06:13

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Posted: 5th April 2010 14:35

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I sometimes can't work out how we got to the stage where we put so much value on a slip of paper which says that 'I owe' money to somebody, and then develop a working commercial system. This applies to bank credit too. It's just weird. I mean, theoretically, everyone could just refuse payment by paper money or credit, and gold could go out of fashion. That would make for an interesting set of circumstances.

It happened because as the diversity of products people made increased, it became harder and harder to have a barter economy. Civilizations developed money to exchange for goods and services because it simplified things by being easily quantified. Money originally was objects of varying degrees of rarity (gold, silver, copper, etc.) because that rarity gave it value.

Eventually bank notes came around (starting in China) because when people had too much money (i.e. gold, etc) it was hard to carry it around or safely store it. Instead, richer people began to store their money with people who could keep it safe (bankers) and would use bank notes which were backed by the money held by the bankers.

As paper notes became more and more prominent, people began to value paper money with less regard to the bullion which backed it. Of course this often results in inflation, as money gets printed with less or no backing. The transition from paper money to credit cards is pretty much the same as the transition from metal coins to paper money.

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Posted: 5th April 2010 16:40

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I sometimes can't work out how we got to the stage where we put so much value on a slip of paper which says that 'I owe' money to somebody, and then develop a working commercial system. This applies to bank credit too. It's just weird. I mean, theoretically, everyone could just refuse payment by paper money or credit, and gold could go out of fashion. That would make for an interesting set of circumstances.

It happened because as the diversity of products people made increased, it became harder and harder to have a barter economy. Civilizations developed money to exchange for goods and services because it simplified things by being easily quantified. Money originally was objects of varying degrees of rarity (gold, silver, copper, etc.) because that rarity gave it value.

Eventually bank notes came around (starting in China) because when people had too much money (i.e. gold, etc) it was hard to carry it around or safely store it. Instead, richer people began to store their money with people who could keep it safe (bankers) and would use bank notes which were backed by the money held by the bankers.

As paper notes became more and more prominent, people began to value paper money with less regard to the bullion which backed it. Of course this often results in inflation, as money gets printed with less or no backing. The transition from paper money to credit cards is pretty much the same as the transition from metal coins to paper money.

I understand that but if you take a step back and put it in perspective it's just weird to put so much value on something so insubstantial. Money is understandable, but paper money and credit are nothing, they're just promises held together by law. I find it odd that we're trading in promises, that's all.

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Posted: 5th April 2010 17:04

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I understand that but if you take a step back and put it in perspective it's just weird to put so much value on something so insubstantial. Money is understandable, but paper money and credit are nothing, they're just promises held together by law. I find it odd that we're trading in promises, that's all.

Wrapping your mind around the concept of metal coins being used for trade is not that far off from the concept of paper money. The coins themselves have a value that is wholly dependent on peoples' perspective of it, which is often aesthetic. Gold is shiny and rare so it had value to many people throughout history. When the Europeans met the native peoples of the Americas, they did not have the same ideas about what has value for trade, so they traded their gold for what Europeans considered cheap trinkets. My point is, the value of coins is abstract just like paper money and credit. It almost makes more sense to tack value to promises than to arbitrary metal coins.

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Posted: 5th April 2010 17:22

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I understand that but if you take a step back and put it in perspective it's just weird to put so much value on something so insubstantial. Money is understandable, but paper money and credit are nothing, they're just promises held together by law. I find it odd that we're trading in promises, that's all.

Wrapping your mind around the concept of metal coins being used for trade is not that far off from the concept of paper money. The coins themselves have a value that is wholly dependent on peoples' perspective of it, which is often aesthetic. Gold is shiny and rare so it had value to many people throughout history. When the Europeans met the native peoples of the Americas, they did not have the same ideas about what has value for trade, so they traded their gold for what Europeans considered cheap trinkets. My point is, the value of coins is abstract just like paper money and credit. It almost makes more sense to tack value to promises than to arbitrary metal coins.

They're different though. Gold has a material value, but paper money and credit don't have material value, they just promissory. Gold and silver could be replaced by bread and butter and that's still the same idea.

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Posted: 6th April 2010 00:54

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I understand that but if you take a step back and put it in perspective it's just weird to put so much value on something so insubstantial. Money is understandable, but paper money and credit are nothing, they're just promises held together by law. I find it odd that we're trading in promises, that's all.

Wrapping your mind around the concept of metal coins being used for trade is not that far off from the concept of paper money. The coins themselves have a value that is wholly dependent on peoples' perspective of it, which is often aesthetic. Gold is shiny and rare so it had value to many people throughout history. When the Europeans met the native peoples of the Americas, they did not have the same ideas about what has value for trade, so they traded their gold for what Europeans considered cheap trinkets. My point is, the value of coins is abstract just like paper money and credit. It almost makes more sense to tack value to promises than to arbitrary metal coins.

They're different though. Gold has a material value, but paper money and credit don't have material value, they just promissory. Gold and silver could be replaced by bread and butter and that's still the same idea.

Do you know the cost of making a penny is more than the value of a penny?

Anyways, doesn't matter what kind of money you use, wait until that price goes down until you buy the game.

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Posted: 11th April 2010 23:19

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Oh, I get Twitter. It's basically the most disturbing sign yet that the world's attention span is shrinking and IQ is dropping. I get it, but I also hate it.

What I don't get: the popularity of the Twilight series. Every girl who's read it and whose opinion I trust (a Venn Diagram with an extremely narrow center) tells me the same thing: "it's not well-written, it promotes bad relationships, and the movies have an attractive cast but are probably even worse than the books; I was totally on Team Jacob. The first movie was terrible, and the second movie was worse; you want to go to the DVD release party this weekend?"

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It's not that I don't get Twitter or Facebook. I have a facebook, and I from what I know of twitter I guess I don't have any problems with it. It's the people that spend 3 hours a day on facebook or update their twitter with every single thing they are doing that really boggles me. First of all, who really cares about every little insignificant detail of your day? Secondly, what is there to gain in spending 20% of your non-sleep hours reading up on other people's social lives? I don't get that.

As for Twilight... All I have to say is that I am a senior in highschool, and it hit the less-than-intelligent teenage girls of my school hard. Perhaps the worst part is that many of the people at my school who read twilight (or the multitude of equally pathetic books) are actually convinced that it is a great book/series.

Sometimes I wonder about people dry.gif

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Posted: 14th April 2010 06:23

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I don't get how people are so surprised that the guy playing Edward, in Twilight, played Cedric Diggery in Harry Potter. And why didn't everyone go crazy over Cedric instead of Edward. All the American girls I know go crazy over guys with European accents. Now they go crazy over a brit that fakes an American accent??

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