Posted: 24th March 2003 17:59
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Okay, I have been thinking about this for a long time. I've always thought Narshe was pronoucesd "Narshee" but my friend Hikaroo on the other hand thinks it's pronounced "Narsh". I'm not sure now.
I'd guess I'd use the Japanese version of the name to find out what it really is, but unfortunatly, I don 't know. ^^. I'm just looking for input. -------------------- Ah, so that's what an invisible wall looks like. |
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Posted: 24th March 2003 18:00
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Narshe!
MUAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! 'Narsh' as you say. I am right. *MWUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!* ![]() -------------------- ..DDR..Maine.. ..Hikaroo-chan no Deviantart.. <Tiddles> And I love how people suggest "Why not call it my great name?????" when their name is clearly the worst thing ever. <Tiddles> "How about ; Mozilla Xplorer & Mozilla Xpress." <Tiddles> How about you die in a fire? |
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Posted: 24th March 2003 18:29
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Given that it's sometimes translated as "Narche" instead, I choose to go for a compromise between the two and pronounce it in the way a German might pronounce "Narsche". That works out sort of like "Narsh-uh".
But then, I've seen it translated as "Nalsh" as well. Who knows? |
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Posted: 24th March 2003 20:09
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Actually, and I have this information from a very reliable Japanese source, it's pronounced "pumpernickel". The 'narshe' is silent, you see.
Haha, really, though... I've always pronounced it as 'narsh'. -------------------- "Turd-cookies!...they're hot and soft, though..." Rose leaves, when the rose is dead, Are heaped for the beloved's bed; And so thy thoughts, when thou art gone, Love itself shall slumber on. Â - Percy Bysshe Shelley |
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Posted: 24th March 2003 20:19
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Agreed on "narsh". Based on the spotty evidence I've seen, that's closest to the Japanese. Though the German would seem appropriate.
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Posted: 24th March 2003 22:01
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If it's direct Asian-to-English spelling (whichis usually what is done), based on what I know about Japanese vowels, it would be pronounced n(ah)r-shay, (short, sharp "r" sound, so it almost sounds like a short Nah)
Hyphens mean syllable break But I think the translaters more than likely took how it is pronounced and spelled it according to English standards. N(are)sh -------------------- "I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books." -Brad Meltzer |
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Posted: 24th March 2003 23:23
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in fact, the correct pronunciation from the kana would be "nar-shuh." the osv transliterates it as "nalsh;" however, the katakana "narushe" used specifically ADD ON the final "eh/uh" sound rather than just leaving it "narushi," which would be pronounced "narsh." the specific addition of the final dropped katakana "e" clearly make the pronunciation "nar-shuh," although the spelling remains without the final "e" in the osv transliteration. who knows why.
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Posted: 25th March 2003 02:28
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Ahh. Okay, in that case, I'll start calling it Nome. Jeezum Crow people! That's going into it a bit hardcore don't ya think? Sheesh. :S But I digress. I've always pronounced it "Narshe" m'self. ![]() -------------------- |
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Posted: 25th March 2003 07:25
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I find myself pronouncing it most often like Tiddles does, the Narsh-uh. It just seems like a nice compromise between Narsh and Narsh-ee, and it's what I've always done.
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Posted: 25th March 2003 07:47
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I just say "Narsh". I can't be bothered to waste my time pronouncing a whole nother syllable.
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Posted: 25th March 2003 08:15
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Well, even though it seems the arguements for Narsh-uh are most believable, I think I'll still pronounce it Nar-she. It just sounds best to me. To tell you the truth, I'd never heard it pronounced otherwise.
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Posted: 25th March 2003 13:31
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Okay, I know: I'm polish, so what do I know? Anyway, I always have and always will pronunce "Narshe" 'nah-shay', so what ya gonna do 'bout it?
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Posted: 25th March 2003 19:04
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Me thinks it pronounce Narsh, has a silent E.
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Posted: 26th March 2003 21:35
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while your at this, a problem about pronciation (and spelling too, it seems...) arises
In FF10, chocobo is pronounced 'chow-ko-bow' wheras my and my friedns always said 'chock-o-bow' now, try say the first one with a glaswegian/paisley accent, and you will sound daft. I dont think the rest of scotland can say it too well either... ![]() and as for the narshe question? im the only person i know who owns six, but i say it 'narsh' or 'the place where its goat(aye, i say goat! its got if ye must know..) a' the snow' whit? ahm scottish! ah cannae speak english! ![]() -------------------- "Only the dead have seen the end of their quotes being misattributed to Plato." -George Santayana "The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here..." -Abraham Lincoln, prior to the discovery of Irony. |
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Posted: 27th March 2003 06:22
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I've always pronounced it 'Narsh' (as in rhymes with marsh). I noticed in FFVI that they used a lot of European sounding names, so I pronounced it with the silent E.
Of course it I were speaking it in regards to Japanese (or even Spanish), I would be saying 'Nar-sheh'. Although, in order to get 'nar-sheh' in Spanish, it would have to be spelt "Narsje". -------------------- kame, tortue, tortuga, schildkröte, tartaruga, turtle "Arthur Dent?" "Yes." "Arthur Philip Dent?" "Yes." "You're a total knee biter." |
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Posted: 27th March 2003 15:55
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*hugs Silent_Moon* I say it as Narshee too! yay! Finally someone else who does ^-^
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Posted: 27th March 2003 18:37
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Lets no forget other names which can raise controversy!
Ill post them, and my way of saying it Locke - I always pronounced it with a long O, like Lowk Celes - I said cell-es, my friend called her Seal-es (if that makes sense Kefka - I always say it with a long E like Keefka, I think now that its with a short E, but Im too used to the long to go back now. Gestahl - Guess-Tall Im curious as to how you guys say these names -------------------- Old enough to know better Not old enough to care |
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Posted: 27th March 2003 21:28
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Hmm, as for the Chocobo question from way above, I pronounce it as " Cho-ko-bo " ^^. I pronounce the O's like the letter O. I think that's how the Japanese pronounce it because their vowels are constant, they have only one way to pronounce the vowel O.
Locke - Lock, like locking a door Celes - Cell-es Kefka - Kehf-ka, short 'e' Gestahl - Guess-Tall, reminds me of Gaston from Disney's Beauty and the Beast Oh, and what about this one. Yuffie? I've heard "Yuh-fee" and "Yoo-fee". Personally I pronounce it Yoo-fee. *hugs Elena99 back* ^.^ Yay! -------------------- Ah, so that's what an invisible wall looks like. |
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Posted: 27th March 2003 22:26
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Chocobo - Chahk-a-boo. The first "a" is as if you were saying "Ah, I see". The second is more like "Uh" but said quickly. It must be the Rhode Island accent.
Locke - lO-kE; pronounced like the mythological god by that name. Celes - sell-Es Kefka - kef-ka; short e. Gestahl - jest-ahl; like jester and that same short "Ah" sound. |
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Posted: 27th March 2003 22:43
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Here's how I say the names
Chocobo = Chuck-a-bow Locke = Lock Kefka = Kefka Gestahl = Guest+all Narshe= Narsh, silent e, short a Celes = Sell+ease |
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Posted: 28th March 2003 00:04
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We had a thread a while back about this:
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Posted: 28th March 2003 02:59
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I've always said it like Nar-she
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Posted: 28th March 2003 19:23
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Chocobo = Cho-ko-boe
Locke = Lock' (silent "e") Kefka = Kaef-kuh Gestahl = Like "Gestalt" in german (Ghe-sh-tallt) just drop the last "t" Narshe= Already said: Nah-shay Celes = Say-less (it's what my mom keeps telling me ![]() -------------------- "I fell off the mountain of words at around the 10,000ft mark. Tell my family...they owe me money." -Narratorway "If you retort against this, so help me God I'll shove any part of your anatomy I can find into some other part. Figuratively, of course." - Josh "We have more, can deliver tuesday." - Del S Good old CoN |
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Posted: 1st April 2003 00:28
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narshe = narsh like marsh with an N
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Posted: 2nd April 2003 16:22
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Man this brings me back (Vividly remembers 7 years ago remebering arguing about the same thing)
Personally my friends agreed that it was Narsh but we never agreed on the name for Celes but I've always said Seles -------------------- "The time has come," the Walrus said, "To talk of many things: Of shoes--and ships--and sealing-wax-- Of cabbages--and kings-- And why the sea is boiling hot-- And whether pigs have wings." |
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Posted: 2nd April 2003 16:35
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Gestahl = Guest+AL
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Posted: 3rd April 2003 22:32
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Since this has turned into a whole "game-pronounciation" post, I will list all the ones I have heard variants of:
Celes: Sell-ese Locke: Lock Sabin: Suh-bin Cyan: Sigh-ann Gau: Gaw Mog: Mawg Setzer: Set-zur Strago: Stray-go Relm: Realm Umaro: Oom-are-Oh Kefka: Keff-kuh Gestahl: Gues-tall Chocobo; Chok-uh-bo Moogle: Moo-gull Mithril: Myth-rill Aegis: Age-iss Genji: Genn-jee Murasame: Myur-uh-sahm-me Epee: Ay-pay (I think that's proper pronounciation) Bahamut: Buh-hahm-ut Ramuh: Ray-moo Fenrir: Fen-rear Maduin: Mad-jyou-win Golem: Goll-em (I think that's proper pronounciation) Shiva: Shee-vah Tritoch: Tree-tock Tintinabar: Tint-tin-uh-bar Dragoon: Drag-oon Zephyr: Zeffer Suplex: Soo-plecks Debilitator: Duh-bill-uh-taye-turr Lagomorph: Lag-oh-morph Regen: Ree-jen Carribbean: Kuh-rih-bee-en ![]() -------------------- "I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books." -Brad Meltzer |
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Posted: 3rd April 2003 23:28
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Celese? Selless. :p Like sell-less put together. :D Why would Sabin be pronounced Suhbin? Uhm.. a and u make different sounds. And gaw? which rhymes with caw? try Gau, which rhymes with cow. :D Mog? Try fog with an m. :D Setzer? Seltzer minus the l. :D Chocobo like Silent Moon says, chokobo. :D And epee would probably sound like teepee. :D (Like I can spell this stuff.) And Ramuh. I doubt Raymoo. :p Ram-uh. :p Ram-uh. I thought that'd be the easiest. Fenrir - Fen-rur. :p Maduin I thought was Mad-win. Tritoch - How did you get tree? Tri, as in three. :p He's got three different elemental spells, so Tri-tock. Debilitator is said exactly as it looks, de-bill-itator. :p Carribbean: Kuh-rih-bee-en ;) <--- Care-ibb-ian. :p -------------------- ..DDR..Maine.. ..Hikaroo-chan no Deviantart.. <Tiddles> And I love how people suggest "Why not call it my great name?????" when their name is clearly the worst thing ever. <Tiddles> "How about ; Mozilla Xplorer & Mozilla Xpress." <Tiddles> How about you die in a fire? |
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Posted: 4th April 2003 00:40
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The only ones I do differently from DP are...
Gau, which I rhyme with cow Chocobo (unless I'm mistaking your pronunciation), which officially, thanks to FFX, sounds like "Choke uh boh" Aegis, which I say "A (long A) ghiss (rhymes with kiss)" The rest I agree with. ![]() -------------------- Hey, put the cellphone down for a while In the night there is something wild Can you hear it breathing? And hey, put the laptop down for a while In the night there is something wild I feel it, it's leaving me |
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Posted: 4th April 2003 22:29
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I think you misunderstood me, Hikaroo. Where ever I put "uh" I meant the sound the schwa makes, you know, the upside-down "e" thing.
And epee is the French word for sword (and is supposed to have and accent on the second "e") but was brought into the English language to define a certain type of sword. Think of the sword they used in the Three Musketeer movie, and you have a general idea of what it is. -------------------- "I had to write four novels before they let me write comic books." -Brad Meltzer |
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