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Who's your least favorite character, out of all 14, and why?

This does not include the temporary characters.

Please do not ridicule anyone for any reasons why they dislike a character. You're free to have your own opinion.

I know a lot of people like him best, but...I don't really like Locke. I'd like him more if he didn't like Celes, because I don't think they make a good couple at all.

I like Locke and Terra much better. And it seems like he promises himself to her first, but then when he meets the more beautiful (sorry Terra) Celes, it's like he forgets all about Terra and wants Celes instead.

And another reason I don't like him is because it seems like he's always stealing (no pun intended) the spotlight. He always HAS to be in the party, he has to go with Celes to the Magitek research facility, he HAS to go with Terra to Thamasa. And I hate how he tells everyone else to stay at Vector while he goes with Terra. He doesn't have the authority to tell everyone else what to do.

Sorry for everyone who likes Locke.

How about you?

This post has been edited by Ultimaniac on 9th June 2008 18:22

I quite disagree with you. Of course, I'm not right and you're not wrong...but dearest Locke has a complex. That's why he insists to go everywhere, 'cause he wants to be the hero. He wants to save the girl. And I love him for his complex, because he tends to hide it with humor. (And Locke/Celes is my OTP, but that's a different story.)

I don't understand what's the big deal about Shadow. He's a ninja, but I cannot fathom why he appeals to so many people. He never seemed that awesome to me, because...he always lacked character.

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I quite disagree with you. Of course, I'm not right and you're not wrong...but dearest Locke has a complex. That's why he insists to go everywhere, 'cause he wants to be the hero. He wants to save the girl. And I love him for his complex, because he tends to hide it with humor. (And Locke/Celes is my OTP, but that's a different story.)

I don't understand what's the big deal about Shadow. He's a ninja, but I cannot fathom why he appeals to so many people. He never seemed that awesome to me, because...he always lacked character.

That's fine, you're allowed to have your own opinion. Thank you for not being mean about it.

People are probably (sp?) not going to like this ...but I don't like Terra.. I just don't think her abilitiy (morph) is as good as Blitz, Tool, Lore, or even Sketch. Story-wise, she's okay. But not okay in-game wise. Just a matter of personal oppinion. Please don't hate me for that.

I'm sorry, but I really don't like Terra.

Why? I'm not sure. It seems like she has no personality, no backbone. Now, in fic, it might be different - you can adjust things like personality to make it an enjoyable read. But in-game, I couldn't sympathize with her. I didn't hate her, I just didn't like her. She didn't do anything for me emotionally. I didn't await anxiously to find her in the WoR and I didn't care whether she lived or died at the end. Not because I'm a bad person! I just couldn't empathize with her.

On another point, I dislike Relm/Strago because they're kind of annoying. XD;

This post has been edited by Lockpick on 9th June 2008 19:51

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If there is one character I find utterly useless to the game it is Gau.

I'll admit he was my fave when I first played the game back in Summer/Fall of 1995, but now I just find him to be useless filler material. Relm is more useful than Gau. Umaro is also more useful. Gau adds nothing to the story, but is forced upon your party. The optional characters of Mog and Umaro add more comic relief than Gau does. Relm is also humorous. Gau's battle abilities suck too. Any strengths he has are eclipsed tenfold by the rest of the party.

So there you have my 2 cents. Gau SUCKS!


@Lockpick. Yes, Terra seemed a bit stale in the game, as a grown woman with a child-level mind would be. In fanfics, though, she is fun to work with becuase her template is very flexible without being too vague. I've tried giving her more depth in my post-game fanfic. If you've read it, you'll easily notice.

In regards to Locke, I don't find him super special, but I don't dislike him. I don't see him covering anything up with humor though. He seemed too obsessed with protecting others to have any light-heated traits. In my fanfic, I have given Locke a volatile temper that I think fits his character. He has a protective mindset, much like Cyan. And I don't think Locke told the others to stay in Vector when he went to Thamasa. The others chose to do it on their own. It was actually Cyan who said "We'll stay here and investigate."

Quite frankly, I really have learned to find a way to like most characters except for Shadow and Locke. I've heard all these people say things like Locke has high strength, high hp, and high speed. Well when he is in my current party(Gau, Sabin, Celes, and Locke) he doesn't hit the most, hes not the fastest, and his hp isn't the highest. And his story is okay at best in my opinion. He doesn't add much to the story either. Sad things happen, and his wasn't the saddest. And steal never has been a favor in my abilities.

Shadow is in the same boat. Back story is actually one of my favorites, but combat wise hes lacking. Throw only becomes good when you have enough money for enough of the throw items, but gets over shined by things like Blitz and stuff. Interceptor is really neat to get as well. And most the ninja weapons aren't as strong as swords and claws, but they do get nifty status effects.

And bushido takes too long to get the good techniques. Gau is amazing but takes to long to become amazing. And I've always hoped for Sabin and Celes to get together, and Locke and Terra would be a nice couple.

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And I've always hoped for Sabin and Celes to get together, and Locke and Terra would be a nice couple.

h-h-holy crap me too. :D! I have a good friend who draws Sabin/Celes, kinda. IT IS MADE OF AWESOME.

And I like Locke/Terra better than Locke/Celes, but my true love is Edgar/Locke... *ducks* Eee, don't shoot me! I likes my yaoi. ; ;

Um - in Locke's defense (and to stay on topic and not get pwned by mods), I think he has the potential to be really complex. The game just doesn't pull that off as well as it should. I mean, going through something that intense really changes a person, you know?

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Thank you all for sharing your opinions and not being mean to anyone for any of their choices.

It's been a long time since I've said it, or even thought about it...but without question, there are a few characters I just cannot bring myself to stand. It used to reach a point where I'd get a sick satisfaction out of including them in my party only to have them get slaughtered by my other characters and left for dead for as long as the game permitted.

These characters being Locke, Umaro and Gogo. Why? Well, Gogo is simply useless to me, I've never needed nor wanted a character whose only skill was to mimic the skills of others. If I wanted that skill in the first place, I'd just have the original users in my party! Of course, I'm well aware that there is a huge amount of theories concerned he/she/it's true identity, but that means precious little to me. Gogo could be the future, alternate reality version of a cyborg Chuck Norris clone, sent back in time to kill John Connor, and I'd still think he was incredibly lame.

Umaro is absolutely useless. Apart from the brief side quest that introduces him to and allows him into your party, he has not a single shred of plot value. His strength might be quite high compared to the other characters, but with a bit of proper esper usage and leveling, that is easily remedied. On top of that, he's uncontrollable save through the use of relic? No thanks, I'll stick to characters who are trouble free.

Finally, I can't stand Locke for more reasons than I'd care to list. First of all, his personality is annoying to the core. Constantly in search of a maiden in distress in order to compensate for failing the first love? Thank you, but I'd rather someone with a bit more of an interesting background, someone who, oh...I don't know, let their partner and friend die alone and abandoned, left behind a family and became one of the most notorious assassins to grace the Worlds of Balance and Ruin? At least Shadow makes no effort to hide what he is, whereas Locke lives in denial, pretending to be some valiant and romantic sort of "adventure seeking treasure hunter" when in reality he's nothing more than a common thief. I'll gladly take Shadow in a heartbeat over Locke, the pansy that he is. Worse still, apart from his Steal command, he's quickly made useless by the much more valuable abilities of other characters: Blitz, Tools or Runic come to mind. Hell, I'd even take Setzer's roulette, instead. If it were up to me, the game would have an early on sequence of Terra getting irritated at Locke and burning him alive.

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If it were up to me, the game would have an early on sequence of Terra getting irritated at Locke and burning him alive.

Quoted for emphasis, and the fact that it would make FF6 the best game on the planet. The only part that could make it better is if Terra and Celes have a fight over Locke and ended up freezing him just so the burn is more painful.

Well I think I'm going to defend Umaro. In his non plot adding high strength way, he's actually quite humorous in some of the battles. Sometimes when you give him the relic that allows him to throw, he'll throw himself or he would jump over enemies(if you were surrounding the enemy) just to throw that party member at someone.

This post has been edited by yomama on 11th June 2008 14:36

I'll second the defense of Umaro. Take him to the cult tower, where regular characters can only use magic, and he'll still throw himself and others at the enemy. It's a great way to finish the cult tower very quickly.

@Dragon_Fire. Yes, I think Locke's protective habits can get annoying to those he's trying to keep safe. This intrusiveness is yet another detail I have worked into my fanfic. Terra speaks up for her independence.

And the last few times I played FF6, I had great satisfaction of beating down Gau. I had Sabin and Cyan hit him right after he joined my group on the Veldt, and never stuck him in my party after that. I don't even give him a name, just a generic / or -, or other non-letter symbol.

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If it were up to me, the game would have an early on sequence of Terra getting irritated at Locke and burning him alive.

Lol...sorry, I couldn't help it.

Locke IS annoying, to me...

Wow, I'm surprised at all the Locke and Gau hate. In-game, Gau is probably the best character and Locke is probably in the top seven. I can see why people might get annoyed, but damn.

My least-favorite character in the plot is probably Gogo. I mean, he's just a cameo from FF V with no backstory at all. I used to like him, but after listening to a thousand debates on who or what Gogo really is, I've grown to dislike him. Call it the "Sephiroth effect" - the more I hear about him on the internet, the more I dislike him.

Gameplay-wise, my least-favorite character is one of my favorite characters in the plot - Cyan. He's slow, he's bad at magic, and his special attacks have that awful time delay that you can't even break off to give other characters commands. He has good Vigor and can equip heavy armor and shields, but that's where the goodness ends. There's a better character for just about any situation.

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At least Shadow makes no effort to hide what he is, whereas Locke lives in denial, pretending to be some valiant and romantic sort of "adventure seeking treasure hunter" when in reality he's nothing more than a common thief. I'll gladly take Shadow in a heartbeat over Locke, the pansy that he is.

I'm honestly not sure where exactly you're coming from with this.

Leaving everything behind and becoming an assassin doesn't constitute hiding what you are/being in denial?

I think Locke acts way more adult about his past than Shadow did......I never sympathize with characters who "kill" their emotions because they were too painful or something. It seems like an awfully adolescent path to take.

Locke's not really a common thief, I think...he's a little too loud. XD

That said, my least favorite was probably Celes.

I adore Strago.

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At least Shadow makes no effort to hide what he is, whereas Locke lives in denial, pretending to be some valiant and romantic sort of "adventure seeking treasure hunter" when in reality he's nothing more than a common thief.  I'll gladly take Shadow in a heartbeat over Locke, the pansy that he is.

I'm honestly not sure where exactly you're coming from with this.

Leaving everything behind and becoming an assassin doesn't constitute hiding what you are/being in denial?

I think Locke acts way more adult about his past than Shadow did......I never sympathize with characters who "kill" their emotions because they were too painful or something. It seems like an awfully adolescent path to take.

Locke's not really a common thief, I think...he's a little too loud. XD

That said, my least favorite was probably Celes.

I adore Strago.

I meant in context of profession, of course. Shadow makes no effort to hide the fact that he is an assassin, or muscle for hire and willing to play towards any side that can guarantee his paycheck. Likewise for Locke, personality aside, he's little more than a thief. You're right, he's a loud one, which makes him a poor thief at that, but regardless...

Leaving everything behind is hardly "denial", I wouldn't call it adolescent in any regard either, it's simply starting a new lease on life and leaving behind the things he'd rather not have to deal with. It's actually an all too common reaction and entirely believable. Think of refugees fleeing countries, criminals who, having repaid their debt, change their name in order to move on and so on. It may not be the "best" answer, but it's hardly what I'd consider "denial" I can't imagine how being an assassin qualifies as "hiding who you are", it is -exactly- who Shadow is. Of course, I'm talking about Shadow, not the person he had once been.

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I adore Strago.

I like him, too.

I just wish he was a better character to play as...I mean, I'm not saying he's bad...there are just better characters.

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At least Shadow makes no effort to hide what he is, whereas Locke lives in denial, pretending to be some valiant and romantic sort of "adventure seeking treasure hunter" when in reality he's nothing more than a common thief.  I'll gladly take Shadow in a heartbeat over Locke, the pansy that he is.

I'm honestly not sure where exactly you're coming from with this.

Leaving everything behind and becoming an assassin doesn't constitute hiding what you are/being in denial?

I think Locke acts way more adult about his past than Shadow did......I never sympathize with characters who "kill" their emotions because they were too painful or something. It seems like an awfully adolescent path to take.

Locke's not really a common thief, I think...he's a little too loud. XD

That said, my least favorite was probably Celes.

I adore Strago.

I meant in context of profession, of course. Shadow makes no effort to hide the fact that he is an assassin, or muscle for hire and willing to play towards any side that can guarantee his paycheck. Likewise for Locke, personality aside, he's little more than a thief. You're right, he's a loud one, which makes him a poor thief at that, but regardless...

Leaving everything behind is hardly "denial", I wouldn't call it adolescent in any regard either, it's simply starting a new lease on life and leaving behind the things he'd rather not have to deal with. It's actually an all too common reaction and entirely believable. Think of refugees fleeing countries, criminals who, having repaid their debt, change their name in order to move on and so on. It may not be the "best" answer, but it's hardly what I'd consider "denial" I can't imagine how being an assassin qualifies as "hiding who you are", it is -exactly- who Shadow is. Of course, I'm talking about Shadow, not the person he had once been.

I guess that's just a quality I don't admire in a character, then, maybe...

Yeah. It really isn't admirable...not that I would place blame on a character for doing that thing that is all too "common" , and people have no reason or right to expect superhuman qualities in a character, but he's just not someone I'd admire.

He certainly is an interesting one.

Not that I admire Locke, either...maybe if the whole Rachel thing had been better explained. He just seems kind of goofy to me, in good ways and dumb ones, but when I think of what he got down to during WoR, I am inclined to think he has a responsible/serious side too...

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I realized that being the worst character really has categories. For instance

I think Strago's Story is the lamest, even Gogo who had no story had a better story.

as far as combat use this is hard...I never (and i mean never) put the effort into gau. For me its just not worth spending the time to get the rages and not control him at all. However I tend to agree that Gogo is terrible. Having all the magic is useless if you can't do damage. although... I'll admit, having a third person able to steal (the second being shadow using the thief knife) or a second if your hardcore and only count the command. The Tool command also gives you chainsaw so you have a instant kill chance... but sword tech and blitz slots and lore just are not worth it...Dance might be funny...but ...not the best command ever. Honestly though I used to hate hate hate hate hate hate hhhhhaaaaateeee Cyan. However retort/sky is amazing!!! at least in low level games...last and certainly least however is Umaro honestly...its like raging constantly at least with Gau if he dies or you need to heal before you rage he can do something.

Final call
Worst story-Strago (also wins most frustrating character to stat boost since everything but magic succcccckkkkksss)

Worst character "Combat" Umaro ( I made the choice to Never EVER use Umaro outside of the coliseum)

This post has been edited by Basch on 11th June 2008 22:14

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I don't like any of the optional characters (Mog, Gogo, Umaro), maybe just because they don't have lines to define what little personality they might have, or a story behind them.

As for the others, I'd have to choose Setzer just because he doesn't add that much to the plot. As in, all he does is bring in the airship - he himself doesn't do much to the plot development. Even the scenes showing him and Darill didn't do much for me, compared to the oher personal bio's eg. Shadow, Terra etc

Although a point in Setzer's favour - he's my best attacker, but to me that's not as important as plot

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I understand that you don't like Setzer, cathon20. It's just...you stated that you didn't like him because he didn't contribute to the plot. Everyone's part in a story, no matter how minor affects it in some way. And sometimes, that change doesn't even matter.

Didn't Setzer have a personality? Wasn't he an audacious guy who made gambling puns an put his life on the line because he felt like it? I can see if you dislike that part of him, but I don't feel like it's right to judge a character based on what he contributed to help save the world.

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Ah yes, a FFVI character thread.

First of all, I noticed a lot of Terra hate. Though I personally don't like her, I think that she is essential plot-wise, and that her character needs to be the way it is. So even though she isn't near the top of my favorite character list, FFVI wouldn't be near as good without her, so she gets credit for being an important part of FFVI.

There is a lot of unsuspected character hate here! I think Locke is a great character, especially his relationship with Rachel and his feelings of guilt and responsibility for his past actions. As for Setzer, I believe that he is totally essential to the plot (as far as transportation) and I believe he does have a good personality, which is boosted by the "make every moment count" mentality he adopted in Daryl's absence. The high-roller free-thinker character is definately required in this game, where we have the old-school/traditional Cyan, Strago and Sabin, as well as the soft and emotional Locke, Celes, Terra.

As for Gogo, I really like him/her/it. No background? Oh well. The best videogames have loose ends, and, while Gogo is a gigantic loose end, I think he's interesting. For me, the background debate never gets old.

Umaro is totally useless. I would say he is my least favorite character, just because he doesn't have any mysterious-ness about him (like Gogo)that can make up for his lack of background. Mog at least is... Mog. We all know him, he's pretty cool and cute looking and all, so that's excusable. But Umaro... sorry buddy, you're pretty lame.

In second place I would say Relm and Strago. I'm not a big fan of either character, in regards to both battle and plot. Now if a character is cool, I don't really mind how bad they are in battle (I'll just jack up their stats ) but these two don't really add to the plot, and they don't really have a nice side story either.

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