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A Raspberry From Tri-Ace


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Ever though that Square-Enix were not so open to innovation? Ever thought they liked to repeat the same admittedly successful formulas? Ever thought they seemed unwilling to let a new idea join the stable?

Well, you're not alone: Tri-Ace, who you may remember as developers of such RPG's as the Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile series, have decided to plump with Sega as publishers for their latest offering, Resonance of Fate (AKA End of Eternity in Japan, an apparent reference to Isaac Asimov) rather than Square-Enix. According to RoF/EoE director Takayuki Suguro, "SEGA has a more open attitude towards accepting new RPG ideas than Square Enix," and thus they've decided that the publishers of their new game will be the owners of everyone's favourite small annoying blue creature with spiky hair rather than the prudish and stuffy owners of everyone's favourite small annoying blond creature with spiky hair, at least for EoE/RoF.

End of Eternity/Resonance of Fate is an RPG set for release on XBox 360 and PS3 in late 2009 in Japan as EoE and 2010 in North America and Europe as RoF, with mankind near extinction due to environmental collapse (again), and from the look of it a copious amount of bullets.

Source: Kotaku
Posted in: Square-Enix News

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Death PenaltyComment 1: 2009-08-16 01:15
Death Penalty So... turn based? Any idea of what's so 'different' about it?
BlitzSageComment 2: 2009-08-16 03:50
BlitzSage I would have to agree. I mean, Square basically created the genre, or recreated it with the Final Fantasy series. What do they expect to do that is better?
Death PenaltyComment 3: 2009-08-17 00:54
Death Penalty Well I mean, most games have some new stuff. There's always tweaks in the battle systems, and obvioiusly plots change with each. Square's done a lot of stuff of different variety in the past... And I don't see how an rpg can be super different...
Rangers51Comment 4: 2009-08-17 12:15
Rangers51
Quote (BlitzSage @ 15th August 2009 23:50)
I would have to agree. I mean, Square basically created the genre, or recreated it with the Final Fantasy series. What do they expect to do that is better?

Maybe it's the fact that Square only cares about rolling out their marquee names these days, mainly ignoring even their own lesser-known franchises, let alone those they would publish for another developer? To my mind, developers like Tri-Ace have a reasonable complaint here, as Square trundles closer and closer to seeing themselves as an Alpha-and-Omega, EA-style gaming monolith.

As to whether they "(re)created the genre," well, I think that's probably up for some debate too, and maybe you're giving them just a bit too much credit. But that's for someone else to debate, as I don't really think it matters outside of the context of this discussion.
Death PenaltyComment 5: 2009-08-18 00:01
Death Penalty Seeing how much squenix abuses the FF series, I'm surprised they haven't gone through and harassed others... You'd think they'd have done another Chrono game by now, for instance.
BlitzSageComment 6: 2009-08-18 03:22
BlitzSage
Quote (Rangers51 @ 17th August 2009 08:15)
Maybe it's the fact that Square only cares about rolling out their marquee names these days, mainly ignoring even their own lesser-known franchises, let alone those they would publish for another developer? To my mind, developers like Tri-Ace have a reasonable complaint here, as Square trundles closer and closer to seeing themselves as an Alpha-and-Omega, EA-style gaming monolith.

Well, they are a company, and companies make money. And I guarantee that Tri-Ace would do the exact same thing. They really have no right to say anything, because Final Fantasy has rendered some of the greatest games in history.
Rangers51Comment 7: 2009-08-18 15:08
Rangers51
Quote (BlitzSage @ 17th August 2009 23:22)
Well, they are a company, and companies make money. And I guarantee that Tri-Ace would do the exact same thing. They really have no right to say anything, because Final Fantasy has rendered some of the greatest games in history.

I don't know, maybe I just fail to see your point, but that post just doesn't make any sense to me past the first couple lines. If Square didn't see anything worthwhile in what Tri-Ace brought to the table, sure, they have every right to tell TA to go find another publisher. And were the tables turned, you're right, TA would do the same thing.

However, those two points do not lead in any way to your final point, that Tri-Ace has no right to say anything, because, who are they to degrade the mighty Square-Enix? That is exactly the sort of attitude that has led SE to start behaving like companies like Electronic Arts - milking prior wins and history and potentially stifling innovation, all the while raking in the cash on the backs of the fans who either don't know better, don't care, or just take what comes their way and are happy about it (see the hundreds of thousands of copies of Madden '10 already sold).

What is really interesting about your attitude here is that it seems to fly in the face of your overall notion of what would improve gaming as a whole, as you put it in this post a while back: http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/in...ndpost&p=179341 . Maybe you're right and Tri-Ace is just putting out another boring JRPG. Given the pedigree that they already have as developers, I'm not sure I would agree - heck, you could come into chat any night this week and see at least two people playing Star Ocean 3.

On the flip side, I've heard that TA has put out some more mediocre games recently, and maybe that's at the core of this snub. I guess Square is only willing to put out mediocre games that they develop in house. smile.gif

Bottom line to what I'm saying here is that while there might be good reasons for this little business deal and whinefight via the games media, I don't think siding on the side of Square Enix just because they're billionaires and have one of the world's top game IPs is really a good enough reason by itself. Why not wait and see and then adjust loyalty levels accordingly?
BlitzSageComment 8: 2009-08-19 00:48
BlitzSage Ahh R51, I see you are willing to make more of an effort to fact-check, while I just dispense bull. Now I have been checkmated, and the artist and/or rebel in me is shrinking in embarrassment.

What I was saying was that while Square is one of those big bad companies, it deserves some leniency, as it has created some amazing games, such as FFVI and FFVII and Chrono Trigger. But you're right, they are a stone's throw from being the same as EA.

I guess I was too hard on these guys. I just hope that their game is good. I wasn't even thinking about the industry, but rather about Square's former glory when they were making games in the mid-90s and they were really in the same position.
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