NOTE: This was our 2006 April Fool. I think we got a few of you! -TiddlesAfter several days of discussion with staff, Caves of Narshe webmaster Rangers51 has officially decided to take the next step in the CoN's evolution. After witnessing fewer hits on the main site, decreased participation levels in the forums, and generally lower morale among staff and members ever since the debut of the Final Fantasy VII section on February 13, 2005, R51and staff agree that sometimes the best course of action can be to admit a mistake.
The decision to eliminate Final Fantasy VII content from the CoN was not an easy one for R51 to make. Echoing the sentiments of the staff who worked on the section, R51 states, "I really loved the FF7 content we made, I thought it was the best on the web. But in the long run it just wasn't bringing in the kind of clientele we were looking for to sustain the site."
Even though this is certainly a step backwards in terms of site content, the CoN is bound to take a few steps forward almost immediately with the addition of a brand-new section to replace old content and hopefully generate new interest in the CoN. While the Final Fantasy VII section took a very, very long time to build, we've really worked hard as a group to finish up an all-new section and have it almost ready; look for it to launch sometime in the next week or so. If R51 has availability while he moves, it may even go up sooner. We know that our work will ultimately lead the CoN in a direction that staff and members alike have always hoped to see it go in.
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It will be sad to see all the hard work of the creators of the FF7 section come to naught, but I, for one, am excited about the new direction the site will be taking. Hopefully, this change will begin to diminish the influx of FF7 fanboys and instead attract fans of the next game to grace the CoN's pages!
| Zeromus_X | Comment 1: 2006-04-01 01:08 |
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Um...what? I'm sorry if I missed something, but why exactly did you guys take it down?! It was one of the best places of info on the damn game, it really is a waste! I can't really see why you guys did this, or how this benefits the site!  Other than, 'we're FFVII hating extremists, so we took it all down'. I'm really sorry, this just seems a bit stupid to me. |
| Neal | Comment 2: 2006-04-01 01:14 |
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We're definitely not FFVII-hating extremists - we wouldn't have spent all the time working on the section if we knew we were going to end up taking it down, or if we didn't enjoy the game. It's just as the newspost says - it was attracting a different level of members that we didn't care to covet. |
| Zeromus_X | Comment 3: 2006-04-01 01:17 |
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Okay, you hate FFVII fanpersons. I still don't think that's such a great reason to blow away a great information section, but I'm not in charge around here anyway. |
| Silverlance | Comment 4: 2006-04-01 01:51 |
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Hey, out of curiousity- naw, not gonna say it. I'm sure someone'll take notice.
Ahem. Anyhow.
It's a real shame to see this happening. I agree that times are changing, and the average gamer's interests are changing. Websites must be dynamic in order to succeed, and maybe this is for the best.
Well really, out of curiousity, how many hours were invested in the FF7 section? >"< Seems like so much work... |
| Zeromus_X | Comment 5: 2006-04-01 01:57 |
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Wait. Please don't tell me this is an April Fools' Joke. I'll feel really retarded if it is. (It's the 31st here ><) Dammit, please tell me this is and April Fools' Joke!!  |
| gronx7 | Comment 6: 2006-04-01 01:58 |
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K that's really really stupid, are you sure it has nothing to do with the FF7 section at all??? Maybe there's another reason for it that you've overlooked. I really don't see why you should eliminate that section, FF7 was a great game also, I think most ppl just don't like how everyone goes on about how it's the best game ever when they haven't even played the ff's on snes and nes. But come on really, I really don't think you shoudl take it down. If you wanna boost morale why not work on adding an ff2 and ff3 section. I mean there hasn't been a single post thus far that supports this to decision, I think you should rethink it. You run the site it's your call, but I really don't understand how you came to this conclusion. Just dont' go off making an ff8 section and I think things will be ok. |
| Shotgunnova | Comment 7: 2006-04-01 02:13 |
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Kekekeke! How terrible, that the site should round the corner only to go retroactive... I hope this decision will be overturned...like, really soon...
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| MogMaster | Comment 8: 2006-04-01 02:34 |
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As a volunteer for the site, I actually am privy to alot of the decisions that the staff and admin in particular make, since they generally have an impact upon my workload. No joke, people. FF7 is going down. Coincidentially it IS April Fools day, but Josh is also moving so he figured it'd be a good time to do it- during a transitional period in his life.
Sorry. No joke. |
| Zero_Hawk | Comment 9: 2006-04-01 02:36 |
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Down with FFVII fanboys, hip hip, hooray! |
| Tiddles | Comment 10: 2006-04-01 05:30 |
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OK, we just couldn't wait any longer. Check out the new replacement section!
Admittedly it's not quite finished, but hey, we're sick of being the only FF site that completely finishes a section before unveiling it. |
| Silverlance | Comment 11: 2006-04-01 05:36 |
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I knew this was gonna happen. FF8 hasn't been getting enough coverage here. And while I bash it constantly, I'm glad to see it's made its way on CoN.
Like I said, sites need to be dynamic. Things have to progress, and basking in FF7's glory just ain't gonna cut it. Technically today's well.. tomorrow (if that makes sense) so it took a good day to pull this off - a well-organized developement, I must say.
Well... it sucks to see the FF7 section go but... Here's to FF8! *Raises his shooter of tequilla. Well, three of us here. One asleep, and one waiting for youtube videos to finish downloading. So yeah, three cheers, one asleep.* |
| Del S | Comment 12: 2006-04-01 07:46 |
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Catch 22. I agreed the FF7 section was indeed to blame for the diminish in general quality, but now, I personally think we're going to see posts about gunblades being awesum, how Squall was deep (when I have stood in deeper puddles and not even got the soles of my shoes wet) and how it's apparently impossible to go about looking up Selphie's skirt and if you hack the game to do so she turns out to be a he.
No one else agrees but mark my words, for they may haunt you...
We totally should have gone with my idea for a section devoted to the AK47.
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| Elessar | Comment 13: 2006-04-01 09:07 |
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While FF7 definitely has an abnormally high amount of fanwankery involved, if you're removing that series milestone and replacing it with FF8, the logic involved should certainly be questioned. The quality of a game has significant impact on the quality of its fans, and certainly a game's specific strength also breeds a certain devotion in a specific personality of gamers. That is to say that a game as devoid of overall plot cohesion, filled with deus ex machina, and one that literally insults a player with its immensely unbelievable backstory… it is unlikely to draw a significantly better crowd than the game it replaces.
Given such a decision, this author can only draw one conclusion: That even FF8 devotees -- capable of accepting such ridiculous concepts as time compression through either willpower or willful ignorance-- are significantly more desirable in the eyes of the staff than FF7 fanboys.
And that is indeed disheartening.
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| BASSsic | Comment 14: 2006-04-01 09:15 |
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I'll just be off then. Terrible 'clientele' that I am.
I have a better idea, instead of getting rid of the content that is there and very helpfull, why not just cull forum members you don't like?
Happy elitism.  |
| Mr Thou | Comment 15: 2006-04-01 11:45 |
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To answer to a question raised by Silverlance, we can't possibly tell you how many hours the staff spent on the FF7 section, but it was a massive amount of time, and spanned over an extremely long period of time. And as said before in the thread, the feedback is really not what we had hoped..
Multiple games were considered to sorta replace the slot, and even with the voices against it (mainly one actually, with furry ears and whiskers), FF8 was chosen. We hope that the development of this section will take less long and less out of us, and hopefully will received a better feedback.
As for me, I was rooting for a Parasite Eve section along with R51, but we got demoted due to the previously failed attempt (check CoN's history, you'll find out when this happened). |
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