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Posted: 27th September 2002 02:17
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That's right, Perfect Dark 2, coming to a Microsoft XBox near you.  Well, not necessarily, but it's for sure that it won't be coming to GameCube.

Microsoft paid a scant $375 million for the Nintendo gaming powahouse, known for the Donkey Kong Country games, Goldeneye, and Starfox.  (Thank God that they squeezed out Star Fox Adventures before the selloff/sellout)

Score another one for Emperor... I mean, Mr. Gates.

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Posted: 28th September 2002 00:39

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! IT CANT GO TO XBOX. BAD BAD BAD BAD, MR GATES IS CHEATING. BAD.
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Posted: 28th September 2002 00:44

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Donkey Kong Country is one of the best platforms games ever. Rare will be missed.

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Posted: 28th September 2002 01:53
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good, maybe there'll be some good games on x-box besides halo.

perfect dark2 should be awsome, considering what Rare did with the crappy N64  They and Nintendo were about the only companies who could make anything decent for it.

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Posted: 28th September 2002 22:13

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No...no...NO!!!  

That being said, it's sad to see that even Rare can sell out to the Dark Lord of the video game industry.  How?  Why?  I have no idea.  But the thought of Perfect Dark on the X-box disgusts me to no end.  No more Donkey Kong.  No more StarFox.  Or, horror of horrors, they'll try to release some pathetic semblance of either series on the accursed Microsoft platform.

It's kind of sick how a mega-corporation can so easily replace talent, experience, and innovation with cold, hard cash.  I'll miss the long hours I spent with Rare games.

Alas, Joanna Dark, we barely knew ye...

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Posted: 29th September 2002 23:17
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I know why nintendo sold their 49% of Rare! Because of that stupid new president!
(Yamauchi is gone, right? Or is he still here for a little while?) ^_^
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Posted: 30th September 2002 01:14
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that stupid new prez is the reason why Square games are showing up on GBA.  


nintendo makes more money off of licencing than actually making games.  and since rare is, or was, about half nintendo's, well you get the picture.

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Posted: 30th September 2002 05:16
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Quote (Super Moogle @ 28 Sep. 2002, 17:13)
No more StarFox.  

That is not true! StarFox is a trademark of Nintendo, and they and Namco are developing another StarFox game.

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Posted: 30th September 2002 05:25

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ::sniffle:: I spent my boyhood days playing donkeykong starfox ff and megaman!!! how dare they steal the kongs! i can't even afford an X-box and the only reason i would would be for dk. Curse you gates!!! I'm gonna send you hatemail until you give Donkeykong back!!!!! >_<  >_<  >_<

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Posted: 30th September 2002 15:49
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They didnt steal donkey kong. That is Nintendo's. It has been since ... 1980 or something? That game where you have to save the princess from donkey kong.
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Posted: 30th September 2002 16:49
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donkey kong is like the hobbit of the mario series.  i don't think rare has the rights to DK anymore, but then again I think rare might have owned everything else in the Donkey Kong Country series.

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Posted: 30th September 2002 19:16
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To the best of my knowledge, Rare took the copyrighted character of Donkey Kong and created the DKC series based on that, meaning that XBOX DKC games would be impossible - Nintendo would sue them over copyright laws in a heartbeat.  This may also hold true to Perfect Dark, Starfox, etc... (Does anyone know for sure?  These characters/games were originally created by Rare...)  That doesn't mean, however, that Rare can't produce games using a similar engine to the games created before.
Oh well.  Makes me glad I haven't bought into the whole "Next-Gen console" thing.  I'll stick to my N64, SNES, or PC, thank you very much.

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Posted: 30th September 2002 20:01

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P. Dark on Xbox looks awful. Awful in the fact that it looks all cartoony now. I'm sure the actual game will be fun like the original was, but the cartoony look does NOT fit the game.
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Posted: 30th September 2002 21:43
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Eh?  You mean there really IS going to be one?

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Posted: 1st October 2002 00:12
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Quote (Rubicant @ 30 Sep. 2002, 15:01)
P. Dark on Xbox looks awful. Awful in the fact that it looks all cartoony now. I'm sure the actual game will be fun like the original was, but the cartoony look does NOT fit the game.

since when have rare games NOT been cartoony?

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Posted: 1st October 2002 01:45
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Quote (mael_duin @ 30 Sep. 2002, 19:12)
since when have rare games NOT been cartoony?

Have you PLAYED Perfect Dark?  How about GoldenEye?  

Although for the most part, of course, you're right.  But we're talking about Perfect Dark becoming cartoony, which is quite the change from the gritty sci-fi game on the N64...

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Posted: 1st October 2002 09:17

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I'd hardly call it "gritty".  Look at Elvis the Comedy Alien ™...

But I take your point, cartoony it wasn't, and cartoony it shouldn't be.

I'm also interested on where the rights lie regarding different characters and concepts.  Clearly, Nintendo originals such as Starfox and DK still belong to Nintendo, whereas characters from Rare's self-published Perfect Dark belong to Rare.  But what about, say, that Donkey Kong 3D model used since DKC?  Nintendo-produced games such as Mario Kart always credited Rare for allowing them to use it, so could the modern DK look now disappear into oblivion, owned wholly by noone?  It seems more logical that Rare would sell to Nintendo any related assets such as that, but still, it's a thought.
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Posted: 1st October 2002 15:01
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Ithink that, it is just a lot of work when i was happy with Rareware being for nintendo stuff :(
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Posted: 1st October 2002 22:56
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Quote (Edwin Odeisseron @ 30 Sep. 2002, 20:45)
Quote (mael_duin @ 30 Sep. 2002, 19:12)
since when have rare games NOT been cartoony?

Have you PLAYED Perfect Dark?  How about GoldenEye?  

Although for the most part, of course, you're right.  But we're talking about Perfect Dark becoming cartoony, which is quite the change from the gritty sci-fi game on the N64...

have you played them?

both games are for cartoony,  more due to the limitations of the N64 than anything else, really.

the least cartoony game they've ever made has to be the old DKC games on the SNES

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Posted: 1st October 2002 23:13
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FPS-type games should never never never never never be cartoony.  It violates some unwritten developer's code of conduct or something along those lines.

I hope Microsoft doesn't try to make some cheap StarFox or DK clone.  But then, in some ways, I hope they do.  If they don't, gamers will be happy because we'll all know Microsoft isn't capable of making such good games.  If they do, then they get their pants sued off by Nintendo and gamers will be happy because we'll all know Microsoft isn't capable of making such good games. Sounds to me like it's a win-win kind of thing. :E

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Posted: 2nd October 2002 18:39

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Quote (mael_duin @ 1 Oct. 2002, 17:56)
have you played them?

both games are for cartoony,  more due to the limitations of the N64 than anything else, really.

the least cartoony game they've ever made has to be the old DKC games on the SNES

I think it really depends on your personal definition of "cartoony" here.

Seriously, though, I'm very disappointed that Rare would fall so easily.  I guess X-box owners have something to be happy about, since they just might get a decent game every other year (if you factor in Rare's Bioware-esque penchant for delaying games untill Kingdom Come).  But I, for one, am not happy.  Microsoft doesn't deserve that kind of quality software, considering the reams of trash they've been pouring out as of late.

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Posted: 2nd October 2002 20:32
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Hasn't Microsoft been giving everybody buggy junk that they call "software" since Day One?

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Posted: 2nd October 2002 20:45

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Just as a notice, Microsoft bashing is not the point of this topic. Please keep that in mind.

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Posted: 2nd October 2002 23:41

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Microsoft Sucks.

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Posted: 3rd October 2002 05:12
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funny, if I wern't broke at the moment, I'd bet that most of you are running windows right now.

this reminds me of when the PSX first came out.

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Posted: 3rd October 2002 14:53
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I still dont like the sony x_x
I am running windows, but i have more macintosh computers in my house than windows.
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Posted: 3rd October 2002 16:23

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