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Hardest of the Four Fiends

Posted: 16th July 2010 18:37

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People of the forums, I wanna know which of the four fiends you think is the hardest to kill. Ill start things off as always by saying that the hardest to kill for me was the fiend of the air Valvalis. Which was the hardest for you to kill?

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Posted: 17th July 2010 08:34

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Valvalis is probably the second strongest,gut for me none of em are truly hard.

Only time i had any difficulty,is when i had to fight all 4 of them at a time.



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Posted: 17th July 2010 19:56

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well im replaying the game on the ds and so far the hardest for me was the wind archrield biggrin.gif
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Posted: 17th July 2010 23:10

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Hmm probably valvalis yeah.

Rubicante was ridiculously easy because of how weak he was to ice and by that time,you had several ice weapons+flood which did very high dmg.


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Posted: 18th July 2010 20:20

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come to think of it the first one was quite hard dry.gif the first bit was easy but i forgot he came back alive and wasnt prepared and i barly made it pinch.gif i had to use all my hi-potiens on him
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Posted: 18th July 2010 23:49

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My biggest problem is usually with Rubicante. Why? Because I pre-queue ice-type spells and by the time they hit he's closed his cloak. FML.
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Posted: 23rd July 2010 19:57

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My biggest problem is usually with Rubicante. Why? Because I pre-queue ice-type spells and by the time they hit he's closed his cloak. FML.



You dont even need to use a single ice spell to kill him blink.gif . Just have Cecil and

Kain equipped with ice weapons and have Rosa cast bserk on Cecil. You can

also use flood to make the battle even quicker. As long as you are at a half decent

level, he is cake to beat. I hope that helps make the battle easier and I stand by my

decision of Valvalis cool.gif

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Posted: 24th July 2010 09:15

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My biggest problem is usually with Rubicante. Why? Because I pre-queue ice-type spells and by the time they hit he's closed his cloak. FML.



You dont even need to use a single ice spell to kill him blink.gif . Just have Cecil and

Kain equipped with ice weapons and have Rosa cast bserk on Cecil. You can

also use flood to make the battle even quicker. As long as you are at a half decent

level, he is cake to beat. I hope that helps make the battle easier and I stand by my

decision of Valvalis cool.gif

I actually think golbez is tougher than any of them.

He has pretty strong magic and you never get to kill him.

I wonder how he does it to survive meteo and survive a really strong summoner? he must be really really strong.


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Posted: 21st September 2010 06:09

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I pick Valvalis...but only because you don't have any black magic when you fight her the first time. It's mostly up to Kain's spear, and while it's awesome, it's also time consuming. When all four are fought at once they wither to level 3 spells of the appropriate element.

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Posted: 22nd September 2010 20:49

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I'd have to say Scarmiglione, or Rubicante. I spent weeks on Scarmiglione, and weeks AGAIN on Rubicante. Just thinking about it makes me depressed.

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Posted: 23rd September 2010 20:05

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I don't remember having much of a problem with any of them. Cagnazzo was by far the easiest. I think Scarmiglione was the most tedious.

Then again, I should have said Kainazzo and Milon, since I actually played the FFII (US) version, which is definitely easier than the other versions (except FF4 Easytype).

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Posted: 27th September 2010 05:45

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valvalis, the wind one. Rubicante was easier than her, because of the whole steal trick thing with his leg. Cagnazzo was easy, because of the Thunder trick, and Scarmiglione is harder than Cagnazzo, but not as difficult as Valvalis, or Rubicante.

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Posted: 27th September 2010 05:50

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Valvalis and Rubicante are pretty much even as the toughest, but Rubes gives you a full heal treatment when you start the battle, so yeah...

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Posted: 27th September 2010 06:31

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In pre-DS versions, I always found Valvalis/Barbariccia hardest, simply because she could use Tornado on your characters and her physical counterattacks could hit pretty hard. Plus, you had no offensive magic to use against her, unlike the other three battles.

In the DS version, I honestly had most trouble with Scarmiglione (the undead version). Much more difficult in this version than the others.

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Posted: 10th October 2010 12:05

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I find Barbariccia to be the most difficult due to spamming tornado as well as having noo elemental weakness.

But if you go into the DS remake, then Cagnazzo always screwed me up. blush.gif

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Posted: 23rd December 2010 03:39

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I really hate Valvalis or whatever she's called now, even on replays she always ends up killing me atleast once.
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Posted: 23rd December 2010 05:27

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because of the whole steal trick thing with his leg.


...elaborate please? I've never heard of this.

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Posted: 23rd December 2010 06:00

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When I was a kid Scarmiglione gave me trouble to no end, and Barbariccia too. Rubes and Cag have always been cakewalks for me, probably due to the Black Mage presence in the party during both those fights. Scar eventually got easier when I learned to remember to reverse my party order on the second fight to avoid the back attack, and to get Palom leveled up enough so that he knew Bio before hand- a spell that basically rapes him. Barb, to date, remains the most died on fiend. Even when I have to fight all 4 at once!

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Posted: 23rd December 2010 11:02

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Cagnazzo was pretty frustrating with the Tsunami attack and his love for the spell Slow.
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Posted: 26th December 2010 01:32
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I hate to say that Rubicant really was a pain in the ass for me but its the reason that someone above mentioned : Casting ice crap and it landing right when his cloak was closed. Then soon as it would happen, he would scorch one of my characters and they would KO then I would try to bring em back and it would just never recover correctly.
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Posted: 28th June 2011 15:16

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I'm going through the DS remake right now--considering I'm still stuck against Cagnazzo, he's my vote. I can't remember the later two that well from my first run-through (GBA).
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Posted: 28th June 2011 15:54

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Which are the hardest FF versions, btw?

NES/SNES (PSX is also quite the same regarding difficulty level, isn't it?) > GBA > NDS?

I recall I had WAY more problems with the PSX versions of FF IV and V than I have with the GBA versions. Mostly counts for FF IV.

At the psx I died over and over again at some bosses, while I was mostly able to kill any boss in the gba version with my first attempt.
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Posted: 28th June 2011 15:56

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Babariccia/Valvalis is the hardest of the four fiends due to her lack of weakness.

Rubicante is 2nd because if I remember correctly, doesn't he couter with flare if you hit him with an Ice spell?

Scarmiglione is 3rd hardest because he has a few nasty spels up his sleeve in his 2nd form.

And poor Cagnazzo, the easiest of the four, has a water shield that can be easily negated by a thundara spell, but because you have Tella, you can just spam Thundara/Thundaga and kill him easily.


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Posted: 29th June 2011 02:17

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I can only say from my experience with the PSP version, where they all only took one try, that Barbariccia was probably hardest due to her incessant need to spam maelstrom. Scarmiglione was easy, where as Cagnazzo and Rubicante were simple once you figured out how to fight them.

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Posted: 29th June 2011 19:56

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Casting ice crap and it landing right when his cloak was closed

Doesn't his cloak absorb ice?

And, bumping my earlier question, what's the "steal trick" with Rubicante?

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Posted: 12th July 2011 14:56

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Personally, it's a tie between Scarmiglione and Barbariccia. Scarmiglione has nasty attacks, plus the second round is a back attack [which sometimes catches me off-guard]. Barbariccia has Tornado/Maelstrom which are pretty annoying and Ray.

Rubicante for me was the easiest simply because I expected him to be difficult. What's the point of having an attack that's basically an instant-kill when taking a Fire spell to the cloak makes him cast Raise on the party? Every time Rydia used Shiva on him, he'd cast Blizzara on himself! XD

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And, bumping my earlier question, what's the "steal trick" with Rubicante?

In the DS version, having Edge use Steal on Rubicante causes him to close his cloak, causing him to use only physical attacks, protecting the party from his more-powerful moves.

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Posted: 21st July 2011 06:57

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The Toughest of the four fiends was the Air Fiend for me.But for the 2nd round its a Scarmiglion.
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Posted: 31st July 2011 21:02

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Rubicante and his DAMN CAPE.

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