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Posted: 20th October 2010 17:03

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(The success of this thread at TVT has inspired my making it here.)

What opinions relating to games and gaming do you have that are unpopular?

I'll start. For starters, I think that FFV is far better than FFIV, and I actually enjoy taking the plot of FFV--Exdeath's hamminess and all--seriously. In his defence, he has a right to be that hammy, since he really can kick your ass. And the soundtrack and plot just flow better.

I also prefer the original Olivine/Violet City theme from Pokémon GSC over either of its two remixes--the HGSS remix or the FRLG Sevii Islands remix.

Additionally, I tend to prefer listening to in-game versions of game music over than arranged performance versions of them.

I'm also not really a fan of lots of battle and character advancement system bells and whistles in (eastern) RPGs. I prefer very streamlined, simple battle systems (such as that of FFIV) over one involving arrangements of stat bonuses and extra abilities from espers, djinns, and the like. (Though I did kinda like Lufia II's special skills.)

What about you?

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Posted: 20th October 2010 17:20
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I despise the new FF games starting from FFX. I simply can not stand a game that is considered a rpg of some sort to tell you where to go rather than allow you to learn your path.

I think all fps game are horrid. Since Doom and Wolfenstein, it has been a downhill slide in gaming.

Sports games are worthless. I can not see why a company has to release the same game every year with very very very minor changes other than to capitalize on the people that buy them. I understand its a business but I think some game companies could work on other projects instead of copying the same football game over year after year.

Im irritated that most of the continuations of the game series I like are being wasted on hand held systems instead of consoles. God of war, Y's, FF3, Dragon quest, etc. Consoles should be the top possibility for games instead of the last result.

I think I have said enough. ohmy.gif
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Posted: 20th October 2010 20:20

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Hmmm...I don't know that many opinions to games nowadays, when I was a kid and that type of stuff was really important to me, the main conflicting opinion was Mario vs. Sonic.

I guess my main preconception that sets me apart from my game-playing peers is that I value the individual workers over the brand itself. Is there a Final Fantasy without Uematsu and Sakaguchi? I'm not so sure. I used to get into arguments with a work colleague about this, which always seemed odd to me...when old favourite bands come back and there's only one member of the original group left, people throw a fit. Why do we feel differently with movies and video games?

I agree with Glenn that I prefer the original versions of the game music to remixes, though this is mostly due to me not being much of a fan of techno. Sometimes I enjoy a piano rendition, or orchestral mix, but for the most part I miss those little 16-bit synths.

EDIT: Oh yeah...War of the Lions is a great translation. Like, really, really wonderful.

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Posted: 20th October 2010 20:55

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Despite it's flaws, I still prefer Chrono Cross to Chrono Trigger.

Also, judging from what I've seen here and elsewhere, I think my disdain for Street Fighter 4 is fairly unpopular. Sorry, I just can't get into the blocky, less-fluid nature of the "2.5D" graphics, the cast-wide rehash of old characters (especially the SFII chars), or the slower, "classic" style of play (hadoken hadoken hadoken SHORYUKEN!! thumbdown.gif ). 3rd Strike, I will never stop loving you heart.gif .

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Posted: 20th October 2010 21:17

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I despise the God Of War series.

The gameplay itself is fairly okay, but Kratos is revolting to say the least. I can't stand him to the point nausea.

Also, I believe MMORPGs are the devil - they're fruitless, boring, grind-fest, copy-pasted boredom marathons. While many of them feature some nice gameplay or skill development schemes (SMT:Imagine, City of Heroes) and others are quite pretty in their own right (FFXI, XIV) their nature, as things that lock you into prolonged pointless repetition and demand your time on appointment makes them evil in my eyes. Also, boring.

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Posted: 20th October 2010 21:26

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I am notorious for having the worst taste in games (see this this at SDA...the first line says it all), and I'm not bashful about it. Although I can at least recognize when a game is bad (Lagoon, Batman Forever, 7th Saga, etc etc etc), I can't help but enjoy playing them. Quite possibly the biggest offender is a SNES game called Mohawk & Headphone Jack which I am forced to speed run via that same SDA thread. Here is a video of level 1-1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrp4OYByyLM

I streamed this game the first time I ever played it and was legitimately enjoying it. The controls are awkward and bad, the powerups are even worse, the music gets tiring, the maps are overly gigantic and make no sense at all, and the difficulty randomly spikes to a huge level around the middle of the game. However, I love this game. Nobody else does. Pretty sure that's an unpopular opinion.

I could go on and on about the horrible games that I love, but that should pretty much sum it all up right there.

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Posted: 20th October 2010 21:38

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I like FF VIII better than FF VII. Mind, I still like VII, but VIII is above it in my internal ranking list.

I also liked the new localization for Tactics: War of the Lions.
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Posted: 20th October 2010 22:15

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I think that every game in the Metal Gear series is an overrated piece of crap. I think that every game in the Shin Megami Tensei series is an overrated piece of crap. I think that every game in the Kingdom Hearts series is an overrated piece of crap. I think that... nevermind, I'll stop.

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Posted: 20th October 2010 22:31

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Yeah, definitely lots of stuff I disagree with in this thread. smile.gif

Mine is that I can't stand CoD or Halo, or any console FPS, really. It's mainly the community I hate.

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Also, I too love WotL.


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Posted: 20th October 2010 22:34

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I hate Final Fantasy

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Posted: 20th October 2010 23:44

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I really dislike Yoski's Island. Yoski is NOT a helicopter, or a train, or a drill.

Sonic 3D on the Genesis Is absolutely brilliant. Sonic Spinball, as frustrating as it was, was quite addictive too.

Street Fighter II is the worst game I've ever played. Forever.
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Final Fantasy VI was fairly mediocre in my opinion. Playing XIII again now, and it's much more enjoyable.
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Posted: 21st October 2010 00:25

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I'm not a big fan of FF I-V. I love VI-XII skipping VIII. I also hate Super Mario RPG.

Oh yeah and I liked Suikoden IV

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Posted: 21st October 2010 01:26

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I don't get Chrono Trigger. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a fine game, well designed and fun, but I don't see why so many people call itthe best game ever made. It always comes up on reader's poll quizzes. I just don't get it.

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Posted: 21st October 2010 01:27

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I hated Fallout 3 and have a feeling I'll hate Vegas just as much. Similar to R51, I can't stand the Halo or Call of Duty series and, with the possible exception of a guilty pleasure in Gears of War, I loathe pretty much any FPS or TPS played on a console. WASD and a mouse will always trump the awkward, choppy movements of thumb sticks guided by auto-aim.

I love the Dynasty Warrior series, but in particular, the Gundam titles. I've yet to meet anyone else who shares this opinion and it might just be entirely because I love senselessly cutting down endless waves of enemies and, with the Gundam-related games, because I've always been a huge fan of the various series.

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Posted: 21st October 2010 03:40

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Quote (Dragon_Fire @ 20th October 2010 21:27)
I hated Fallout 3 and have a feeling I'll hate Vegas just as much. Similar to R51, I can't stand the Halo or Call of Duty series and, with the possible exception of a guilty pleasure in Gears of War, I loathe pretty much any FPS or TPS played on a console. WASD and a mouse will always trump the awkward, choppy movements of thumb sticks guided by auto-aim.

I love the Dynasty Warrior series, but in particular, the Gundam titles. I've yet to meet anyone else who shares this opinion and it might just be entirely because I love senselessly cutting down endless waves of enemies and, with the Gundam-related games, because I've always been a huge fan of the various series.

Ha, there's one Gundam game I played, can't remember which (it's on the PS2), but I remember liking it.

And, another game I've never understood is Tetris. Why do people love that game so much? For me, yeah, it's fun for a couple of seconds. But I've seen many people call that one of the best games ever. I just don't understand that.

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Final Fantasy VI was fairly mediocre in my opinion. Playing XIII again now, and it's much more enjoyable.


Umm, footbigmike, he said unpopular, not insane.... jk tongue.gif

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Posted: 21st October 2010 04:30
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I don't like FFVII very much...

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As a game, it's perfectly enjoyable and actually one of the better in the franchise.

As a narrative, it's a worthless hodgepodge of anime cliche and pretension.  The characters are two dimensional parading around as 'complex' whenever the script asks of it without making any real explanation for their sudden lapses into overly melodramatic or outright bizarre behavior.

Like the majority of pop culture anime, it's a simple story trying to pass off inconsistency as intelligent and 'deep' and it's a large reason I gather why it's become such a popular game in the series.  It gives you the illusion you're experiencing something thought provoking, even if it's just a silly story under all the fabrication.

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As far as I'm concerned, the peak hit in VI.  If you want to know why, you can read about it here.  Basically, I said story/character-wise, FFVII was a sub-standard anime pretending to be a Final Fantasy game.  And you know what...

You guys ate it right up!

Square struck gold with that game and it's all because of those anime fanboys who drool at anything with a spikey-haired character.  So pretty much ever since then, they've been giving us bigger and bigger cg anime movies - complete with all their stylistic and plot cliches - because quite simply, we asked for it.   So really, we have only ourselves to blame.

Well...not me.  I knew how to quit while I was ahead and stopped at IX.

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Going from the wonderful characterizations of [ FFVI ] to FFVII was quite a rude awakening for me, but most everyone else seemed to latch onto it pretty hard since it was targeting a younger audience used to more self-absorbed dickheads as protagonists thanks to the stronger influence of anime at the time.  To be honest, the series has never fully recovered.

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The stories were in quick decline after VI and in terms of likeable characters or even relatable in some way, it was like a jump off a cliff (excluding IX, which had the balls to have a main character who wasn't a complete twat).

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I never really thought of it as a bad ending to the story.  It was a mediocre ending to a mediocre tale, but it did come off as unpolished compared to its predecessor.


And I love me FFIX!

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Posted: 21st October 2010 05:32

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I don't like FFVII very much...

Is that really an unpopular opinion any more? There are a lot of people that believe that (I'm kind of one of thos ppl in the 'ffvii is overrated' category).

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I love FFIX too.


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Posted: 21st October 2010 05:49

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I think that every game in the Shin Megami Tensei series is an overrated piece of crap.

Every single one? IIRC, Shin Megami Tensei had something around a bazillion games, so I daresay AT LEAST ONE has got to be not overrated.

But I digress.

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I hated Fallout 3 and have a feeling I'll hate Vegas just as much.


I didn't like Fallout 3, even if it was a pretty good Elder Scrolls.

I love New Vegas.


Also, like NP and BlitzSage, I loves me some FF9 biggrin.gif

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Posted: 21st October 2010 07:12

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unpopular opinoins, lets see...

ive grown to really not like ff vi, dunno when it happened, it just hit me that i wasnt having fun. dont like ff x, x-2, or ff xiii for that matter, one of my favorite games in the series is viii, though its been eclipsed by tactics and xii.

im fine with xi and xiv being in the main series, i cant see why they cant be, seeing as most ffs have nothing to do with eachother, why cant a couple ones be more different than the others?

i like the ps3, i love the playstation move and i really dont like nintendo that much. dont like mario, im iffy on the new metroid games (super metroid was amazing though), zelda is fantastic, dont like starfox etc. that being said i will most likely get a 3DS so i can play kingdom hearts. i also really hate the xbox, not just because im a sony fanboy, but its an incredibly overrated system.

i love this new 3D technology stuff. i like 3D movies (when done properly, none of this last airbender crap), and i want a 3D tv so bad.

i think thats good for now.

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Posted: 21st October 2010 11:24

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HOLY MOTHER OF something...

There are a ton of things that i agree with on with people like:

I despise the new FF games starting from FFX. I simply can not stand a game that is considered a rpg of some sort to tell you where to go rather than allow you to learn your path.

I think all fps game are horrid. Since Doom and Wolfenstein, it has been a downhill slide in gaming.

Sports games are worthless. I can not see why a company has to release the same game every year with very very very minor changes other than to capitalize on the people that buy them. I understand its a business but I think some game companies could work on other projects instead of copying the same football game over year after year.

This sums up a lot of how i feel about sports games and fps perfectly aerris logan.

We can both agree on that

Additionally, I tend to prefer listening to in-game versions of game music over than arranged performance versions of them.

This one i agree on most of the time glenn.

Also, I believe MMORPGs are the devil - they're fruitless, boring, grind-fest, copy-pasted boredom marathons. While many of them feature some nice gameplay or skill development schemes (SMT:Imagine, City of Heroes) and others are quite pretty in their own right (FFXI, XIV) their nature, as things that lock you into prolonged pointless repetition and demand your time on appointment makes them evil in my eyes. Also, boring.

silver maduin just sumed up how i feel in perfect words about mmorpgs.

Boring repetitive gameplay not much story.

Most mmorpgs are so similar in gameplay.

But i kind of understand it as they want money.

I can't help but enjoy playing them. Quite possibly the biggest offender is a SNES game called Mohawk & Headphone Jack which I am forced to speed run via that same SDA thread. Here is a video of level 1-1:

Caesar,i know how you feel.

You know a game isn't very good but it can still be fun depending on the thing about it.

Sums up how i sometimes feel about cerain games that i know has some stuff that are still fairly enjoyable even though you know they aren't the best.

Secret of mana was listed in one video as overrated and called worse game ever.

I disagree and think its not a bad game at all,its a fairly enjoyable game and i do admit its not the best story/character development.

Its pretty basic character and story development.


I don't get Chrono Trigger. Don't get me wrong, I think it's a fine game, well designed and fun, but I don't see why so many people call itthe best game ever made.

I understand you and agree completely with you blitzsage.

I saw this guy who was bashing ff7 and praising chrono trigger and complaining that kingdom hearts didn't put chrono or magus in the game.

Chrono doesn't even have a personality per say,everybody else speaks most of the time.

The characters themselves are not bad,but i wouldn't say that the development is the best.

Its a pretty good game for snes era and i wouldn't mind owning it and i would definitely replay it a lot,but i hardly think its the best.

Unpopular thoughts of my own:I think doom halo and even metal gear solid 4 are overrated.

I think ff7 is the most overrated game ever made and cloud and sephiroth the worse hero/villain combo.

They are badly developed and get way too much credit when there are far better characters.

FF8 characters leave little impression on me and the gameplay is tedious,it can be a little overrated and overhyped by some fanboys,i think it is actually worse than ff7 in my opinion.

FF9 is an ok game,i didn't care that much for the story.

I liked the characters but i disliked quina and eiko and dagger.

I liked steiner blank and marco.

Another unopular opinion of mine? I think that metal gear solid 2 is underrated because of the amount of sheer hatred it gets.

I liked resident evil 4 a little and really disliked resident evil 5.

I like oblivion for its gameplay because of the amount of diversity,but i hate the bugs in it.

oblivion has way too many pathing bugs.

The most annoying for me is:The needing to change to french because in the english language there is a programming error and the quest woman for giving in the blood grass won't accept it.

There is also a weird pathing error where i went to an alchemist in the imperial city and she ran out and got killed by a guard.I kept having to reload to save her and she would just run into another building.

I don't know why the guards did this but its not normal.

Another strange thing:Items in stores would not respawn to steal them again and sell for money.

Another problem that is non bug related:The game's dungeons are extremely repetitive.

Call me crazy if you want,but fallout 3 dungeons were never so monotonous and repetitive as in oblivion and its literally full of copy paste dungeons that look alike.



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Posted: 21st October 2010 13:29

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SilverMaduin:

Mostly from the prodding of friends, I've played Revelations: Persona, Persona 2: Eternal Punishment, Persona 3: FES, SMT: Nocturne, and SMT: Digital Devil Saga 2. All of them ranged from piece of crap to "why does everyone say this game is so good when it's basically average and boring." I own two of the ones I mentioned, so I might try them again some time in the future, in case I forget that they're boring.

I also don't like any Fallout game, I think I've mentioned that here before. The only western RPGs that I've played and really like are the Diablo series, Baldur's Gate 2, Sacred 1, Torchlight, and Anachronox (if that counts).

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Posted: 21st October 2010 20:13

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Re Chewbekah: How can you hate Mario RPG? It's not the greatest story ever told or the greatest battle system ever created, but it's one of the most fun games I've ever played!

Re Magitek_slayer: I think most of us more "regular" gamers don't like sports games either. smile.gif

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Posted: 22nd October 2010 02:01

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I despise the new FF games starting from FFX. I simply can not stand a game that is considered a rpg of some sort to tell you where to go rather than allow you to learn your path.



Um, most RPGs at least give you a hint of where to go. No one is dropped into a world and basically been required to "figure it all out". In fact the only RPG I can even think of that is too linear that doesn't let you do anything on your own is FFXIII. Can you give an example of a game that "lets you learn your own path?"


Glenn Magus Harvey: I probably should try it again because I didn't like Paper Mario the first time played it but then I ended up liking it.

Oh and here's a really unpopular gaming opinion. I feel that Nintendo has yet again failed me as a gamer with their current system. I'm feeling much like the days of the N64. Sure, there were a couple really cool titles like Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Mario Tennis, Paper Mario, and Star Fox 64, and Mario Party.
But I wanted in depth RPGs like the SNES had. I wanted side-scrolling street fighters or a decent fighting game. I feel the same about the Wii. Sure there are a few good games to play for like a few minutes but nothing that really pulls me in. And I want to play them with a freakin' normal controller. And I didn't drop $250 so I could buy old games, most of which I have on my Super Nintendo and NES that still work or that I can still quite easily emulate on my computer or Dreamcast.

In contrast to this because I love Sony and loved the PS1 and PS2 and PSP. I regret buying my PS3 and wish I had bought an XBox 360 and the only thing that's keeping me from hocking the damn thing right now is the hope of there being a Suikoden game on the system. And also FFXIV which much to my dismay doesn't come out until March of 2011. So I pretty much have this overly expensive blue-ray player of which I own no blue ray movies to watch movies on. There I said it.

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^ Oh, I see, yeah, if you like fighting games. I'm not a fan of fighting games, except possibly for Smash because I can run around and use obstacles to dodge stuff.

Lack of a normal controller is a bit of a drag, but I haven't tried to use the wiimote as a normal controller enough to say whether it'd work as one.

That said, the only Wii games I currently want, apart from VC and WiiWare games, are stuff like the Metroid, Fire Emblem, and Endless Ocean. Possibly Twilight Princess, but I feel that I prefer the GC version where Link is actually left-handed. And possibly that Dragon Quest game when it comes out. Can someone tell me how well I could play these games if I only had the Wiimote and nunchuck?

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Lol thats twice that poor Magitek Slayer is being quoted when he is quoting me.

Most older style RPGs give you lots more freedom than the newer pretty games. Phantasy star series for one ... Dragon warrior games to an extent. Most of the pre X final fantasy games ... A lot of the Ultima games ...on and on. It gives you a chance to learn what you can and can not do instead of forcing you to follow a line. Im a stubborn player. I have a very narrowed way of thinking as far as the RPGs I like. I really liked FF games but once they went to the PS2 and on, I have been disappointed. I remember someone on here before mentioned that this was actually the path the original creators wanted to do. I just wish they had this train of thought on a different genre of games instead of the stuff I would be interested.

Going to add a one more unpopular opinion. Zelda and Metroid games went the way of the dodo to me as well. I guess I really am stubborn. When a game comes out with a certain "style", thats the crowd you are selling to. When you take the name of the game after the style has been established and totally change it (Zelda to a more 3d, Metroid to more of a 1st person), its upsetting to me cause thats not the style I wanted. sad.gif

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I have a pretty unpopular opinion in games. I Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate FFIV. Mind control: Cliche, Battle system: Like a man dying of TB, Characters: Wooden, Cid: The worst one in the series, Cecil: Worst fecking protagonist ever. I understand that people like this game because of nostalgia, but that is the only reason I could ever understand. This game put me off Final Fantasy for 3 years.

I've got another one, one that may get me shot. I like Ultro*is shot*

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Quote (R8.50 Mango @ 22nd October 2010 09:16)
I have a pretty unpopular opinion in games. I Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate FFIV. Mind control: Cliche, Battle system: Like a man dying of TB, Characters: Wooden, Cid: The worst one in the series, Cecil: Worst fecking protagonist ever. I understand that people like this game because of nostalgia, but that is the only reason I could ever understand. This game put me off Final Fantasy for 3 years.

FF4 was one of the 4 new ones and first one to have better development after the nes era.

FF1 on the nes had no character development whatsoever.
FF2 on the nes had character development but they kept killing off characters and you never got to like them because they weren't developed,they were just plot convenient add on characters.

And third:When leon joins you,its extremely badly done.

This game is legendary for plot convenience and cliché.

Even for its day it is extremely cliché.

The gameplay furthermore was horrid due to having badly balanced game.

You had:enemies who were too tough and bosses who were too easy.

Seriously,the dragons were a joke.

I could cast toad and mini on almost every boss in this game and insta kill.

Then you have the final boss who lasts 4 hits,i mean WHAT ON EARTH WERE THEY THINKING? seriously,that was more pathetic than dragon quest 8 final boss who was also a joke.

Not to mention,why would you invite someone in your party who already betrays you and tries to conquer the world? seriously,did they forget that leon tried to destroy the world?

Its like:ok you tried the conquer the world but now you are good,i would never trust someone that easily if they tried to conquer the world,what if he tries again and betrays the team?

FF3 nes:not so good gameplay fun towns good music in some areas and zero character development.

I mean it,you can't tell between the heroes in personality because they have none

FF4:it has its flaws but its a huge and i mean HUGE improvement.

The characters are not as developed as in ff6,but give them a break,its a big improvement over ff3 on the nes and ff2.

First of all,cecil does have development.

He is repenting that he blindly follows order and that the repercussions.
He opens his eyes and discovers that he was a pawn and used to do evil things and wants to repent and undo the damage he done starting with the village of mesidia.

Rydia is afraid of fire because cecil was used and told to take a bomb package to the village and the destruction of the village devastated her emotionally.

And as for cid:I always loved cid in ff4.
He's just plain insane.

I mean:jumping from a ship to fix it and blow it up?

Ok here comes the flaws:how did cid survive the ship explosion? good point.

The game has parts that defy logic.

Like:Walking on the moon with no atmosphere
Cid surviving an explosion and a huge fall from a sip
Yang surviving an explosion in the cannon room.

I cannot answer these questions,i guess it is like cartoons?

In cartoons,characters who you don't want to kill off survive instances that normally are impossible.

Like:explosions and they come out blackened and coughing dust.

FF7 on the other hand,is the most overrated game ever made.

my unpopular opinion is:i hate cloud strife and sephiroth,both of them are under developed as is most of the members of avalanche.

In fact,most of avalanche team is so bland and under developed due to focus,that you could swap roles and people wouldn't know
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Sephiroth was actually less developed than jenova in my opinion.

Jenova appeared more often and had a more vital role in most of the game than he did,all we see of him is in flashbacks saying 1 or 2 lines or doing nothing but posing.

He has next to no dialog and this hurts him as a villain and next to no build up.

In truth,the main villain is really jenova and hojo because if it wasn't for hojo and shinra,i guarantee that the sephiroth instance would never happen.

Furthermore:squeenix uses sephiroth and cloud as cash cows that they are to make more money by making cloud even more boring and uninteresting events.

Personally,i think that they should stop making anything related to ff7 unless they plan to make a good ff7 remake.

What i mean is:include all of crisis core info advent children info dirge of cerberus info and such to actually develop characters and make them more interesting instead of leaving plotholes to then milk it for more money.

The topic also wouldn't be so heated if fanboys realized that ff7 is far from perfect and has more flaws than mentioned and the game itself is mediocre at best.

The problem though isn't liking it,its liking it too much.

Its one thing to say:FF7 is your favorite game ever to saying:FF7 is da best EVAR!! and anyone who disagrees with me is stupid and i'l troll them and attack them call them stupid and accuse them of not playing ff7 when it was new or being a bandwaggoner.

See where i am going folks? I got friends on youtube who love ff7 but admit it isn't perfect and i said to them:The fanboys are giving ff7 fans a bad name with their stupidity and ignorance.

ff7 is not a bad game but it is definitely the most overrated game of all time,even halo doesn't get this much praise.




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Quote (R8.50 Mango @ 22nd October 2010 02:16)
I have a pretty unpopular opinion in games. I Hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate hate FFIV. Mind control: Cliche, Battle system: Like a man dying of TB, Characters: Wooden, Cid: The worst one in the series, Cecil: Worst fecking protagonist ever. I understand that people like this game because of nostalgia, but that is the only reason I could ever understand. This game put me off Final Fantasy for 3 years.

I played VI before I ever played IV so I feel the same way though not quite to that extreme. It had a very cheezy feel to it in comparison.

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Quote (laszlow @ 20th October 2010 18:15)
I think that every game in the Kingdom Hearts series is an overrated piece of crap.

I wasn't going to use as harsh language, but you pretty much beat me to this. You know how much I despise the Kingdom Hearts series. I wouldn't mind a game with KH's gameplay based in a pure FF world. I also would not dislike the series as much if it was a pure Disney game, though I still wouldn't play it.

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My main problem with the series is that they did not represent the FF series well at all. They turned some FF characters into kids. Aeris is alive and well but Auron is dead. Cloud has that lame single bat wing. Setzer looks like a party magician. Yuna, Rikku, and Paine are fairies. It just doesn't make sense that they represented Disney characters fairly accurately but decided they had free license to butcher FF characters in this game. Also, why are there no FF worlds to visit?


Furthermore, I can't stand Sora's character design (or any of the KH-specific characters) and I can't stand that stupid keyblade.

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Hmm call me crazy but,i actually didn't dislike the first kingdom hearts,though i never played the other ones.



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