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| Posted by: reubensmace 18th April 2011 18:41 |
| ive never had an empty character slot after leaving narshe and passing through kohligen on my way to zozo so i never recruited shadow nor did i want to spend the money |
| Posted by: laszlow 18th April 2011 19:31 |
| I've done it, but I don't feel it's worth it. Shadow is more than likely going to leave you in the middle of Zozo if you pick him up, and it's not like he's THAT much better than Edgar, Sabin, Gau, or Cyan. |
| Posted by: Iscariot 18th April 2011 22:33 |
| When you hire Shadow before Zozo, he will stay until you complete a certain amount of gil/xp with him in the party. I don't know the limit, but if you spend time leveling up the group, he will certainly leave before finishing Zozo. Also, just because of the numerous fights, Shadow will likely leave in the middle of Zozo. If you try running from fights, Shadow will stay in the group longer, but regardless of how many fights you are in, Shadow will never join you when meeting Ramuh. One time when I played through, I made a point of using Shadow in Zozo, and as soon as the fight with the boss in Zozo is over, Shadow takes his leave. I'm not positive, but I think the gil/xp system used during Zozo is the same as when you first get Shadow with Sabin. I've seen people spend a lot of time leveling Sabin and Shadow up before even getting Cyan, and Shadow leaves at the end of the Magitek Armor scene in the desert. When I play that section, I spend little time leveling up, so Shadow last until Baron Falls. |
| Posted by: ElPanachino 19th April 2011 04:41 |
| I usually recruit him there just so I can have him in my party. I think the last time I played through I ran from fights to keep him from leaving. |
| Posted by: Cactuar1 19th April 2011 05:08 |
| I didn't even know you could get Shadow during that part. That's because I always keep a full party at that part. Interesting to know though. |
| Posted by: BlitzSage 19th April 2011 05:23 |
| It's a good part to use him, because it's one of the only times he won't run away. But I use him more during the Sabin scenario. |
| Posted by: Insegredious 19th April 2011 05:38 |
Quote (Cactuar1 @ 19th April 2011 05:08) I didn't even know you could get Shadow during that part. That's because I always keep a full party at that part. Interesting to know though. Neither did I. He's at Kohlingen, right? |
| Posted by: BlitzSage 19th April 2011 05:45 |
Quote (Insegredious @ 19th April 2011 01:38) Quote (Cactuar1 @ 19th April 2011 05:08) I didn't even know you could get Shadow during that part. That's because I always keep a full party at that part. Interesting to know though. Neither did I. He's at Kohlingen, right? Inside the building joined with the inn. |
| Posted by: Psiren 19th April 2011 13:27 |
| Quote regardless of how many fights you are in, Shadow will never join you when meeting Ramuh. One time when I played through, I made a point of using Shadow in Zozo, and as soon as the fight with the boss in Zozo is over, Shadow takes his leave. That's not necessarily true. Sometimes Shadow will leave after the battle with Dadaluma, but sometimes he'll stay. I've had him in my party during the cutscene with Ramuh a few times, so it can be done. I recruit Shadow in Kohlingen and keep him in my party for awhile so I can see his dream sequences, but once I'm ready to head into Zozo, I usually go back to Narshe to pick up Edgar or Sabin. |
| Posted by: reubensmace 21st April 2011 07:17 |
| i never knew that the length of time shadow spent in your party was determined by your exp/gp earnings. i was ialways under the impression that it was "random" as explained in the official strategy guides and not to mention the fact that hes left my party after one battle in a few playthroughs. im on the verge of a playthrough rite at this moment i think ill try making it to zozo with shadow this time around. i remember once i tried to bring him back to narshe to switch out members and he left my party waisting my time and money lol. |
| Posted by: Cefca 22nd April 2011 16:55 |
| It always seemed random to me as well. |
| Posted by: Psiren 22nd April 2011 17:40 |
| I always thought it was completely random, too. I've had times where Shadow left after just one or two battles, and other times where he'd stay until I reached a point where the plot called for him to leave. |
| Posted by: diovanti 25th April 2011 21:46 |
| Shadow leaving the party is random! From Terii senshi's Algorithms FAQ V 2.3: Code ********************* 2.14 Shadow Leaving ********************* Any time after the Imperial Camp, and before the Floating Continent, and not on the Phantom Train, if Shadow is in your party he has a chance to leave at the end of combat. He has a 1 in 16 chance of leaving at the end of every combat. If Shadow is the only character alive, then he won't run. If the combat is a pincer, side, or back attack he won't run. Shadow also won't run if he has Wound, Petrify, or Zombie status. |
| Posted by: Cefca 26th April 2011 00:18 |
| Am I right in thinking there's certain parts where he's guaranteed to leave if he hasn't already through the random algorithm though? Just before Baron Falls for example? |
| Posted by: Psiren 26th April 2011 12:59 |
| You're absolutely right, Cefca. In Sabin's scenario, Shadow always leaves just before Sabin & Cyan jump over the waterfall. If you recruit him again in Kohlingen, he'll always leave if you return to Narshe. If Shadow is in the party when you find Terra in Zozo, he'll always leave when Celes & Locke are planning to infiltrate Vector. He also leaves after rescuing Relm from the house fire in Thamasa. But other than that, his leaving the party is random. Thank you for confirming what I always suspected, diovanti. |
| Posted by: Iscariot 26th April 2011 16:13 |
| I guess I always got lucky and had Shadow stay for a couple dozen fights. Thanks for clearing that up, FFVI was my favorite and my friends consider me a walking encyclopedia when it comes to Final Fantasy info. I always wished there were more times you could have Shadow in your party, like when Locke was sneaking through South Figaro. |
| Posted by: reubensmace 27th April 2011 07:12 |
| Thanks everyone |
| Posted by: Ogopogo 13th July 2011 03:13 |
| What you can do at that part is to recruit Shadow in Kohlingen, then walk up to the house to the north and to the forest there, and rent a chocobo to walk down to Zozo. That way, Shadow can't leave because you won't fight (if you still have him when you get the bird). Also, it saves a lot of time because that is a long walk. In my experience, Shadow vs. Dadaluma in Zozo is a powerful matchup. I'm not saying it's usually that hard of a fight, but the Throw command is really powerful if you have just a few Shurikens. |
| Posted by: Djibriel 13th July 2011 15:20 |
| He's quite potent; Shuriken punch through Safe nicely, and the Skeans are even stronger (boosted by Earrings, possibly). His Inviz Edge is also quite nice, since it allows him to dodge those ever-threatening Throws weapons from Dadaluma. This is all relevant in an unknown, strange universe where you don't disable Dadaluma on turn 1 with Imp, obviously. For trivia, you can even complete the Zozo quest, keep a spot open for Shadow and recruit him en route to the Opera House, but since he'll leave you before you even get to Ultros (off-screen event), it's a suboptimal (though fun) option. IMPRESARIO: Your friend left. Said he'd have fallen asleep in another 5 minutes� |
| Posted by: BlitzSage 14th July 2011 02:03 |
Quote (Djibriel @ 13th July 2011 11:20) He's quite potent; Shuriken punch through Safe nicely, and the Skeans are even stronger (boosted by Earrings, possibly). His Inviz Edge is also quite nice, since it allows him to dodge those ever-threatening Throws weapons from Dadaluma. This is all relevant in an unknown, strange universe where you don't disable Dadaluma on turn 1 with Imp, obviously. For trivia, you can even complete the Zozo quest, keep a spot open for Shadow and recruit him en route to the Opera House, but since he'll leave you before you even get to Ultros (off-screen event), it's a suboptimal (though fun) option. IMPRESARIO: Your friend left. Said he'd have fallen asleep in another 5 minutes� I had no idea about that. I'm just at that point on a playthrough right now. I may do that. |
| Posted by: Shinkirou 16th August 2011 21:53 |
Quote (Djibriel @ 13th July 2011 15:20) He's quite potent; Shuriken punch through Safe nicely, and the Skeans are even stronger (boosted by Earrings, possibly). His Inviz Edge is also quite nice, since it allows him to dodge those ever-threatening Throws weapons from Dadaluma. This is all relevant in an unknown, strange universe where you don't disable Dadaluma on turn 1 with Imp, obviously. For trivia, you can even complete the Zozo quest, keep a spot open for Shadow and recruit him en route to the Opera House, but since he'll leave you before you even get to Ultros (off-screen event), it's a suboptimal (though fun) option. IMPRESARIO: Your friend left. Said he'd have fallen asleep in another 5 minutes� Didn't know any of this but I have always thought as cool a character Shadow is they could have done better. Throw Is the only ability I know on that game with an ammo supply (If not counting magic). I usually Just teach him magic and go to town. |
| Posted by: Tchy 11th September 2011 14:49 |
| I always used Shadow whenever i could (even if i didn't save him though).Shadow was like that extra character that says "Okay my work here is done" and then leaves PS:Back to topic yes i did use him |
| Posted by: reubensmace 19th January 2012 11:07 |
Quote (Psiren @ 19th April 2011 14:27) Quote regardless of how many fights you are in, Shadow will never join you when meeting Ramuh. One time when I played through, I made a point of using Shadow in Zozo, and as soon as the fight with the boss in Zozo is over, Shadow takes his leave. That's not necessarily true. Sometimes Shadow will leave after the battle with Dadaluma, but sometimes he'll stay. I've had him in my party during the cutscene with Ramuh a few times, so it can be done. I recruit Shadow in Kohlingen and keep him in my party for awhile so I can see his dream sequences, but once I'm ready to head into Zozo, I usually go back to Narshe to pick up Edgar or Sabin. if hes in your party during the ramuh sequence was he available for the magitek research facility? |
| Posted by: tesco 19th January 2012 12:47 |
| Well thats one thing about shadow I never knew about in the opera house. Course watching HCBaileys videos I found other stuff I never knew about in all my years playing this games. Back on topic: I usually get him to join eveyr other time I go through there. Right now I'm just past the part where you have Locke, Celes, and two other party members lvl 30 and I might take a try with the opera house trick....course I'll be out one character when I go to the Magitek Factory |
| Posted by: Flamsterette_X 6th April 2013 22:44 |
I just achieved Shadow being in my party at the Zozo reunion scene!  |
| Posted by: Neal 7th April 2013 15:35 |
Quote (Flamsterette_X @ 6th April 2013 16:44) I just achieved Shadow being in my party at the Zozo reunion scene! I wonder if he takes precedence over any of the six people you can bring along in the conversation with Ramuh...like, if you only bring Gau, will Shadow talk about his grandma telling him stories? That's a pretty awesome achievement, though. I don't think I've even ever tried bringing Shadow along there. At what point is he forced out of your party, similar to Baren Falls? |
| Posted by: Cefca 7th April 2013 21:03 |
| I get the feeling he leaves just before you leave Zozo but I'm not 100% on that. |
| Posted by: Trynabefunny 16th April 2013 06:04 |
| I cheated to get Shadow there and he leaves once you finish the cut scene following Ramuh. I remembered that right after it played out since I haven't done it in so long. He leaves as the cut scene is ending. |
| Posted by: Flamsterette_X 29th April 2013 03:11 |
| For me, he left Zozo when everyone else did. If that's what you mean by "as the cut scene is ending," that's good. |
| Posted by: Lord Bob Bree 29th April 2013 03:28 |
| I only did so when I tried a Shadow SCC. But, I left Gau on the Veldt before the Opera house, and so lost that playthough. |
| Posted by: Trynabefunny 29th April 2013 17:48 |
Quote (Lord Bob Bree @ 28th April 2013 22:28) I only did so when I tried a Shadow SCC. But, I left Gau on the Veldt before the Opera house, and so lost that playthough. Explain to me how you can leave Gau on the Veldt before the Opera House? My only guess is that you walked all the way there from Narshe, which would take so long it wouldn't be worth the time. |
| Posted by: Electricbassguy 7th April 2022 01:46 |
| I prefer to pick up Shadow after Zozo so he'll actually learn some spells before the Floating Continent. But you don't want to take him to the Opera House. He will get bored and leave. You will be stuck with two characters for the Ultros fight and three for the Magitek Factory. |
| Posted by: Eagle Caller 21st June 2022 21:56 |
Quote (Electricbassguy @ 6th April 2022 17:46) I prefer to pick up Shadow after Zozo so he'll actually learn some spells before the Floating Continent. But you don't want to take him to the Opera House. He will get bored and leave. You will be stuck with two characters for the Ultros fight and three for the Magitek Factory. Sounds like a challenge. |