Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic

A friend and I were chatting on AIM and ended up on the topic of Dycedarg. He argued that Dycedarg was actually a wuss, as evidenced by his poisoning of Balbanes, rather than outright killing, and by his 'defeat' at the hands of a couple generic nobodies in the "Attack on Igros Castle" cutscene. He felt that only after Rofel's visit, and the accompanying Holy Stone, does Dycedarg pose a significant threat.

I argued that he couldn't simply kill Balbanes outright for two reasons: 1) Balbanes was a Heavenly Knight (thus, he'd have kicked Dycedarg in the junk) and 2) His goal is taking over the family and steering them into a more prominent political position, a cause which wouldn't be furthered by a violent end to the previous patriarch. [and 3) It's just not his style.]

As for his 'defeat' at the hands of a couple of generics, I felt, but couldn't recall for sure, that Dycedarg had his hands in the events of that day, and therefore had to 'lose.'

After all that, I guess my question is, can anyone tell me whether or not it is ever explicitly mentioned (or implicitly, for that matter) Dycedarg's involvement in the "Attack on Igros Castle?"

Well, he was probably caught offguard when Zalbaag rushed in and attacked him (probably with some knights of his own), but I'm not really sure.

The "Attack" I was referring to occurs in the first chapter (when Teta gets kidnapped), when he and Zalbag are still on great terms. I doubt that Zalbag would have led any sort of attack on him (Zalbag seems pretty clueless most of the time, IMHO).

While I cannot recall any point in the game specifically referencing to that particular event ant any other point in the game, I think there is more than enough evidence throughout to point at least a shaky finger at Dycedarg as the hand behind the actions.

That attack was designed by Dycedarg and Elmdor in response to Ramzas "rescuing" of Elmdor earlier. They needed a reason to get Zalbag more directly involved. However, since Ramza beat Zalbag to the punch, the attack was their last resort.

Zalbag was never really clueless, just in severe denial, imo.

--------------------

think you're a true rp dork - try it live action shifted lands

Quote (r_c_cola2001 @ 6th June 2009 15:32)

Zalbag was never really clueless, just in severe denial, imo.

I've heard that one before, numerous times on separate occasions.

I agree that it was dycedarg and elmdors scheming that led tp the attack on Igros because everyone here knows dycedarg is a snake who will do whatever it takes to get what he wants.Zalbag is just being lied to and kept from the truth the whole time,

--------------------

Can't we get a better mission than this.I HATE CATS!!!!

Quote from Naruto

Quote (Kane @ 24th May 2009 02:09)

A friend and I were chatting on AIM and ended up on the topic of Dycedarg. He argued that Dycedarg was actually a wuss, as evidenced by his poisoning of Balbanes, rather than outright killing, and by his 'defeat' at the hands of a couple generic nobodies in the "Attack on Igros Castle" cutscene. He felt that only after Rofel's visit, and the accompanying Holy Stone, does Dycedarg pose a significant threat.

I argued that he couldn't simply kill Balbanes outright for two reasons: 1) Balbanes was a Heavenly Knight (thus, he'd have kicked Dycedarg in the junk) and 2) His goal is taking over the family and steering them into a more prominent political position, a cause which wouldn't be furthered by a violent end to the previous patriarch. [and 3) It's just not his style.]

As for his 'defeat' at the hands of a couple of generics, I felt, but couldn't recall for sure, that Dycedarg had his hands in the events of that day, and therefore had to 'lose.'

After all that, I guess my question is, can anyone tell me whether or not it is ever explicitly mentioned (or implicitly, for that matter) Dycedarg's involvement in the "Attack on Igros Castle?"

Going off topic a bit. But you mentioned Balbanes Job Class, and I have to comment on the fact we really don't know what a Heavenly Knight can do. For all we know, it could be a Holy Knight with a better MP stat growth.

There is the fact however Orlandu and Balbanes were good friends, and we can kind of compare the two's classes (though different). We can probably assume that it's better than "Holy Swordsman" (Heavenly Knight is the highest class ever). Which, in it's own right is outrageous because he has all the special attacks of the knights.

One has to wonder, what does a Heavenly Knight do? Here's what I think he could be capable of...

Shatter Sword, destroys all of targets equipment 2v2.
Gods Sword, inflicts holy on all targets.
Inate abilties
Hero's Shield, all physical attacks on allies is transfered to him
Damage spilt
Move +4

It's too bad they never really showed us what he's capable of...