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I'm trying to get through this game for the second time, and I'm at the Riovanes castle battle against Wiegraf. I think I won this one through incredible luck the first time, but how should I do it?

Also, I've been working to get everyone's bravery up to 100 with cheer up, is there some way I can do this with faith? Through stupid job dispensing at the beginning of the game, my priest only has 47 faith, and it's pissing me off.

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well theres many different tactics you can use there, but this is just the one I used and i worked well..

what i did was have ramza be a lancer and equiped him with
sprint shoes and auto-potion counter skill, sell all your potions
so he will use a hi-potion instead of a potion.turn your other chars into ninjas and have one of them eqiuped with two flame maces(whatever those things that add fire damage)
dont get really close to him but close enough to do jump on him, if your
speed is high enough he'll just jump him right away, when i
did that i think he did about 250 damage, i think thats enough
for him to tun away,if not then keep jumping him.

for part 2 of that battle i won that battle in 3 turns...
first turn: ninja attacked with flame maces 200-300 + 200-300 + 100
second turn: ramza jumps
third turn: other ninja chucks yagu darkness 100+
then ramzas jump hits and kill him. 250+ damage

i dont remember the exact damages but thats an estimate.
i know there are other ways you can do it but thats the way
i did it..

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Why do kamakazi pilots wear helmets?

Riovanes? The place with Velius, no?

Part I
I turned Ramza into a Ninja and gave him Guts, Auto Potion, something and something else. He kept using the move that raises your speed until he got like 3 attacks in a row, then he accumulated about 43302984 times. Everything is dead in one hit now.

Part II
I just attacked as offensively as possible, and since Ramza's speed goes here too, he killed Velius in three or four turns.

Is this the battle where Ramza fights him one-on-one until he transforms into a Demon?  If so I have the perfect strategy.

First of all, you MUST have Auto-Potion equipped, and your lowerst-level potion MUST be at LEAST a Hi-Potion so you heal every time you get hit.  You also MUST have Guts.  Yell is the key.  Then I made Ramza a Ninja, giving him two chances to attack.  I think I had him at around level 40 or something...

Okay once you have all that set up, go fight Wiegraf.  Now all you need to do is stay out of his Sword Skill range and Yell every, every, every turn.  Over and over again, until you go about 5 times each time Wiegraf goes one.  It's possible, you just have to be patient.  Then once you get that, maybe do a few Accumulates for good measure.  Finally, start attacking him.  At the level I was at, I could kill him in one hit.  Once he transforms don't mess with his henchmen, go all out on Velius.  He'll probably go down in a few of Ramza's five turns.  Vavavavoom, you win.

Yesh, it takes time, but it works like a charm.  Good luck.

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I find your lack of faith disturbing...

Well it worked. I yelled until Ramza's throat was sore and stayed as far away as possible. I actually sold of all my high-potions, too, and bought a ton of x-potions, so he really didn't do any damage to me at all. That was much easier than the last time I fought him. Thanks

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"Yeah, where I'ma start it at, look I'ma part of that
Downtown Philly where it's realer than a heart attack
It wasn't really that ill until the start of crack
Now it's a body caught every night on the Almanac"

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The Roots

Ehhh...  That's such a pansy way to do it.  What I like to do is just make Ramza a knight and break Wiegraf's sword - I would also equip stuff that protects against lightning (Lightning Stab) and stop (Stasis Sword).  Once you've broken his sword, Wiegraf is hapless.  Heal yourself and draw him back to where your party will appear for the second part of the battle so Ramza is not exposed, then kill him.  For the second half, fast, mobile, and hard-hitting units are the key...  I usually go with a few ninjas.  Take out the Ultima Demons who are more deadly than Velius himself because of their speed, and then go after Velius.  Haste is a big help, and stay spread out in case Velius whips out the Zodiac summon.

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Quote (Gerad @ 30 Nov. 2002, 00:37)

What I like to do is just make Ramza a knight and break Wiegraf's sword - I would also equip stuff that protects against lightning (Lightning Stab) and stop (Stasis Sword).  Once you've broken his sword, Wiegraf is hapless.  Heal yourself and draw him back to where your party will appear for the second part of the battle so Ramza is not exposed, then kill him.  For the second half, fast, mobile, and hard-hitting units are the key...  I usually go with a few ninjas.  Take out the Ultima Demons who are more deadly than Velius himself because of their speed, and then go after Velius.  Haste is a big help, and stay spread out in case Velius whips out the Zodiac summon.

Why don't you just make him a Ninja with second skill Weapon Break with Concentration as support if you're gonna be that way?  
You then have speed, two weapons, and 100% accuracy (I'm fairly sure it works with the breaks, anywho)

The ninja + Yell and Accumulate technique is great, just because you get to keep your upped statistics through the Velius fight. Yes, it is pansy, but it WORKS.

And Velius can't cast Zodiac, only Serpentarius can, you're thinking of C(yc)lops.

I was under the impression that Wiegraf had maintenance status at Riovanes.  In fact, I'm almost completely certain that he does.  Therefore, all you could ever do is power break him until it does 16 damage, or so.  

I realize that you have already gotten past this, but there are several good ways to do this.  Obviously, the yell accumulate method works.  Another method is to use cheer up to quickly max brave and HP restore, while setting your HP so the 2nd lightning stab will knock you to critical.  Another is auto-potion.
Life absorb is another method.  4 shots and he is dead, and you should be able to get them off consecutively enough to stay alive.  High power with concentrate is another method.

Another thing that works is to use a chameleon robe.  Lightning stab is non-elemental, but Wiegraf thinks that it has a holy elemental tag, and therefore will use earth slash or wave fist instead, or just smack you.

As for concentration and breaks:

Concentration reduces enemy evade to 0.  Break skills, however, are not 100% attacks.  It is the user's PA + WP + a value, 45 for Head Break, 40 for Armor Break, 55 for Shield Break and 30 for Weapon Break.  The PA value is modified by zodiac, sleep, frog, attack UP, martial arts, and a few other things.  In any case, Ramza would probably have about 12 WP and 15 PA, so Weapon Break would be 57% or so with concentrate at neutral zodiac.  Chance of at least one hitting is going to be 80% or so, but again, I really don't think that weapon break is valid for this battle.

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