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Posted by: Illyrias_Acolyte 12th June 2009 22:06
Opinions on this seem to vary more than I thought they would (every walkthrougher has his own opinion), but the battle that's caused me to throw my controller the most was the Golgorand Execution Site (or the Gollgada Gallows, or however you want to refer to it). Strangely, the one-on-one with Weigraf has never given me as much grief as Gaff's dark swordskills. You're outmanned, outgunned, and generally outclassed in many ways.

That's if we're talking about actual victory. The fight with Elmdore and his ladies is easily the most infuriating if you're trying to steal the Genji equipment, bar none.

Posted by: Kane 12th June 2009 22:52
A forum search turns up a similar topic: http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/index.php?showtopic=9283&hl=hardest+battle

When I responded to that topic I said the one-on-one Wiegraf battle was the most difficult (if I don't power-level or use the Yell trick), but any battle wherein you're seeking a secondary goal can be frustratingly difficult; you know, like trying to learn ultima and steal the genji equipment in the same battle (something I experienced first-hand on one of my files).

Posted by: Illyrias_Acolyte 12th June 2009 22:58
Apologies, I'm still learning the ropes.

The Wiegraf battle was pretty easy for me because I had stolen the Blood Sword and equipped Concentrate and Auto-Potion. Ramza was pretty much invincible at that stage. The Execution site was just a bear.

Posted by: ILoveMoombas! 13th June 2009 00:25
I'll second the execution site, I was stuck there for ages the first time I played the game. It probably wouldn't have been so bad if I hadn't been determined to steal the blood sword as well as win. In the end I ended up using the jp scroll cheat to give all my units auto-potion. When I replayed the game without cheating it didn't seem so bad.

Also, I think the Roof of Riovanes castle when you're trying to get the move-find items or steal the barette and cachusha off Celia and Lede is worse than trying to get the genji gear off Elmdor, since Rafa tends to get herself killed.

Posted by: R8.50 Mango 8th July 2009 16:35
The Execution Site was one of the easiest for me.

I killed Uncle Gafgarion and led the rest on a merry chase all around the map!

No my hardest battle is far...far...far...far...far...etc.harder...THE GATES TO LIONEL CASTLE!!!ACCURSED BLOODY SUMMONER! Vile treachorous gangreneous septic cretinous imbecilic son of a sandworm! Back! Back to dark flaming cavern from whence thy came! That vile spawning pit of Hades !Philanderous Mongerel!EAT MY TOAST!!! may your hardrive cease to spin! May all your crashes be fatal! May all your files Rasp!May all your Reboots be Doc Martens! Thou art a sack of compost unworthy to even lick my boots!! You underhanded goat worshiper!You fiendish villainous cantankarous useless walking bag of dung! I call into question your intelligence and Morals!!!!The world has never seen such a deplorable vandalistic presence since the dawn of time!

*pant* *pant* *pant* ok I'm done

Posted by: wolfieryx 25th July 2009 07:18
the execution site was by far the hardest ive come across so far ((in chapter 3 now and working on lvling)), my dual wielding knight and my lnacer were my two strongest, but my summoner, time mage and fith person were always in trouble, took me nearly two hours to beat, mainly cause i was trying to keep my people from disappearing, so i used alot of phoenix downs, thouh they rarely got the chance to act, just died again, lost my first time and came back with stronger lvls, that made things almost easy, though i still spent quite a bit of time making sure my guys didnt turn into crystals, thank you for my lancer with almost 250 hp, though i did manage to swipe a few of the enemies with some lucky inventations, even if they did die it still helped alot, though the one on one fght with gaff was a pain, until i lost and came back with weapon break, a inentory full of hi potions and both my main and one of my rangers with auto potion, it worked great cause they couldnt kill him, and he had really low hp so the focused on him while i picked them off one by one

Posted by: R8.50 Mango 25th July 2009 10:07
why didn't you use a wizard with white magic second ability instead of a time mage?
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, but my summoner , time mage and fith person were always in trouble
and why were you using phoenix down when you could just use raise 2 and resurrect them to full health?

Posted by: Hamedo 28th July 2009 04:39
10 monks when you are training up a few weak generics is always one I wipe on, TG Cid in tow or not.

Posted by: Zero 30th July 2009 02:29
The Execution Site was cake imo. My set up was two identical Lancers with full jump and mastered Battle Skills, a potion throwing Archer with advanced stolen equipment, Agrias, and a Thief Ramza. Gafgarion doesn't really hit hard, he's just an annoyance. The biggest problem were the Time Mages. With Agrias under the two Time Mages and the Knight up top, you can use Statis Sword and hopefully stop one or two of them. The Lancers took care of the rest. Since they were identical in every way, I simply had them jump on one target, or two separate targets depending on the HP of that target. Gafgarion was actually the last person I killed. I simply wanted the Blood Sword and that took the longest. At the moment I'm combining a Monk with Equip Sword and using the Blood Sword for melee attacks instead of using Chakra for healing. Counter also works with the Sword, so it's an interesting combination.


Edit: Also, everyone of my characters save for Agrias has +2 Move. I find that in the battles that go with the story, playing defensively, you will always win. Making them come to you, and with characters that can move almost every where on the map, it makes it easy to take out one or two people quickly.

Posted by: Sam 30th July 2009 22:34
The execution site is hard,i agree.But the hardest battle of all is probably riovanes.I had trobule inside and on the roof.But i finall pulled through biggrin.gif .Thank god

Posted by: Fistrules 2nd October 2009 17:08
Quote (ILoveMoombas! @ 13th June 2009 00:25)
Also, I think the Roof of Riovanes castle when you're trying to get the move-find items or steal the barette and cachusha off Celia and Lede is worse than trying to get the genji gear off Elmdor, since Rafa tends to get herself killed.

Add stealing all their weapons to list and its even more of a pain. Any battle that you prolong to steal will end up hard since the equipments are usaully with the most dangerous unit. I always steal Elmdor and his two assassins weapons since Elmdor and Celia hold katanas, something you need for Draw Out. since draw out can break your kantanas and they are expensive to buy (even if you have a lot of gils before, you'll be broke afterwards), Any kantanas for free is a biggie to me. as for Lede's Spell Edges, the first time, i steal them for my ninja. after that, its so that they can throw them.

Story battle wise, 1st place for hardest would be Fanith River, If you get unlucky and get all Red Chocobos, you can kiss your units goodbye. 2nd would go to the Execution Site with two Mages above your 2nd group and your 1st group taking on almost all the enemies, you can find yourself in a tight spot, especially if you want the Blood Sword. The one on one with Wiegraf is a joke if you have the Chamleon Robes on.

As for random encounters, I'd say the rare encountor at Barius Hill I've beaten a lot of the rare ecountors but never this one wacko.gif

Posted by: Max 9th October 2009 11:12
Barrius Hill

When you're between level 40-60 you'll encounter a couple fights here and there that will absolutly destroy you. Sometimes the Dragons kills you or sometimes Choco Meteo just overwhelms you. That place is a bitch.

Posted by: Harrilal 11th October 2009 05:33
The hardest battle without power-leveling or any cheap tricks, I always found, was fatty-fat-fat, Queklain, the Tainted King. The rest of the battles as I advance are fairly straightforward, but no matter how I prepare classes and split them up for Quek's fight so nightmare doesn't wipe me... I always just scrape by.

When I am power-leveled, I truly don't find any of the random battles difficult anymore. But I will say that the million monk fight definitely used to have me tearing my hair out.

Posted by: Crash Endburn 21st October 2009 09:55
The execution site so far was my hardest battle..
mostley because my revive an arise kept on missing
so i had to use phoenix downs a lot..
lost a lot of turns that way
it was an frustrating epic battle that lasted over an hour..

btw i must say that my support and revive magic misses a lot of times
it should mis about 2 out of 10 times
but in my game its the other way around
i miss about 8 out of 10 times (esp. Wall, Revive and Arise)
even if i stand next to the character im targeting..
someone knows why?

Posted by: Rangers51 21st October 2009 14:29
It's funny; I'm playing through the PSP version for the first time now, and while the Execution Site was always hard for me on the PSX, I had no trouble at all with this run through on PSP. Not sure exactly why; maybe it was just because this is the first time I've played it using special characters in years.

So far in this playthrough, where I'm not fighting any leveling random battles, the toughest battle has been saving Orran/Olan from the rooftop. It seems tougher now, due to a combination of the following: Celestial Stasis not hitting as often, seemingly; the female Thieves using Steal Heart more frequently, and Orran's inability to figure out where to go in order to be safe. It took me six tries to get through, finally making it when I realized I could buy Nu Khai armlets to protect against Charm, and to take Boko to act as a meatshield/healer for Orran. It makes me worry about the rooftop at Riovanes. smile.gif

As to your other question, Crash, it's not really on topic here. However, I will say that there are a lot of factors involved in the success of a spell, and I don't think proximity is one of them at all.

Posted by: Crash Endburn 22nd October 2009 07:23
sorry... i seem to go off topic everytime i post...
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Moderator Edit
No worries - maybe http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/index.php?showtopic=14072 might help your question a bit? -R51

Posted by: Crash Endburn 3rd November 2009 09:54
Okay.. Where The execution site was my hardest battle im now stuck in chapter 4 at Finath River..
Total chocobo madness out there!
My ramza is about level 79 at this point
As many of my other char.
But i keep losing them all in this battle
Tried about 15 times now.. And still trying..

Posted by: Nytecrawla 3rd November 2009 14:59
That's because the Chocobos are the same level as you, Crash. It's not like a scripted AI battle, where you can just power level and obliterate the enemy. Monsters will always match you level for level.

Hardest battle for me was the Rescue Mustadio. The first time I played I was seriously underleved, so the Wizards were giving me a hard time. The first time versus Meliadoul was hard too, if only for her equipment breaking moves.

Posted by: Crash Endburn 4th November 2009 14:45
Quote (Nytecrawla @ 3rd November 2009 14:59)
That's because the Chocobos are the same level as you, Crash. It's not like a scripted AI battle, where you can just power level and obliterate the enemy. Monsters will always match you level for level.

Hardest battle for me was the Rescue Mustadio. The first time I played I was seriously underleved, so the Wizards were giving me a hard time. The first time versus Meliadoul was hard too, if only for her equipment breaking moves.

i found that out the hard way..
i was just leveling some of my weaker char
mostly because i wanted to master some jobs
not even to make the battles easier or to powerlevel
the storyline battles aren�t that hard anyway..
but the random battles all are realy realy hard now..
i can hardly make it out of random battles with all 5 surviving
problems started when i came above level 70
than thing got realy nasty

not shure im doing something wrong
even at level 80 now my Ramza has only about 400HP
but most of the time i�m up agains monsters that slam of 300 to 500HP
so 80% of my moves are now heal related and im barly hanging on most of the time, wich is realy frustrating and takes away a lot of the joy i had before i hit level 70...
im not a quiter but im about to give up on this save
but ive already put in about 120 hours of gameplay and i would hate to start all over again
after 3 times i started over before i realy want to finish this game now cry.gif

Posted by: R8.50 Mango 7th November 2009 11:41
Found a new hardest battle. The Lost Sacred Precincts. Took me 10 tries to get it right until I finally brought a black mage with Holy and Math Skill. One CT 3 Holy popped them all for 700+ damage

Posted by: Illyrias_Acolyte 25th November 2009 06:14
Quote (R8.50 Mango @ 7th November 2009 11:41)
Found a new hardest battle. The Lost Sacred Precincts. Took me 10 tries to get it right until I finally brought a black mage with Holy and Math Skill. One CT 3 Holy popped them all for 700+ damage

Balk? Yeah, he's a real stinker, even at level 99. I always just bum rushed him with meatshields, or used calculate, and he and his stupid allies still managed to kill the majority of my team.

Posted by: The-Queen-of-Pink-Bunnies 31st December 2009 04:34
-sigh-
I have a long list... Long or short? Anyone want the long one? -cricket, cricket- Short? -everyone shouts yes at once-
Okay. Short one it is.
From my standing point in the game right now, it would be...

Fight against Belias (No comment unless you want to hear a volcanic eruption of cuss words.)
one-on-one with Wiegraf (well, getting Ramza's speed up to 25 wasn't so bad with the auto-potion)
The battle against Cuchulain (that one was a b-i-t-c-h. I gave up the first time and stopped playing for two weeks before I figured out how to beat him... Stupid fat ********)
Battle at Finnath Creek (Oh God, don't remind me. The stupid chocobos there drove me insane! I made sure I had Construct 8 before I stepped foot there again!)
Opening the Besselat Sluice (Man, I didn't know you didn't have to defeat everyone! That battle was a complete *******!)

There's actually more to it, but... it would turn out that the short list and the long list are actually the same length.

Posted by: Charmaine 15th January 2010 05:48
The one on one with Gaffgarrion was difficult, but he was never my problem. Ramza was always my strongest character, so I wrecked him, with some help from a ninja red chocobo. Hehehe.
It was all the enemies outside that gave me grief.

It seems like all the battles that most people complained about, I never had any problem with. HAHA.
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Posted by: Rangers51 15th January 2010 13:20
Quote (Charmaine @ 15th January 2010 00:48)
The one on one with Gaffgarrion was difficult, but he was never my problem. Ramza was always my strongest character, so I wrecked him, with some help from a ninja red chocobo. Hehehe.
It was all the enemies outside that gave me grief.

It seems like all the battles that most people complained about, I never had any problem with. HAHA.
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How did you have a red chocobo at that point without ridiculous leveling? By the time of that battle, you have only had Boco for, what, eight or ten storyline battles? It would take a lot of traveling to get eggs to hatch to red chocobos, which would mean, likely, a lot of random battles.

If you level up enough, sure, storyline battles aren't going to be that hard for the most part, they're the only battles where the enemies don't level with you.

Posted by: Neal 15th January 2010 13:52
Quote (Rangers51 @ 15th January 2010 09:20)
How did you have a red chocobo at that point without ridiculous leveling? By the time of that battle, you have only had Boco for, what, eight or ten storyline battles? It would take a lot of traveling to get eggs to hatch to red chocobos, which would mean, likely, a lot of random battles.

If you level up enough, sure, storyline battles aren't going to be that hard for the most part, they're the only battles where the enemies don't level with you.

Early mediator can get you a chocobo in chapter 1 if you so desire - doesn't have to be Boco. I think at the beginning of Chapter 2 you have a brief window where Orbonne and Dorter are connected blue dots, so you could walk between the two dots endlessly until a red chocobo hatched. I played through a game with a "Monster Pimp" Ramza, where he was the only human character I allowed myself to use in battles (beyond the first couple to get my team situated) and that required me to get him to Mediator status right quick.

Posted by: Rangers51 15th January 2010 14:23
Quote (Neal @ 15th January 2010 08:52)
Early mediator can get you a chocobo in chapter 1 if you so desire - doesn't have to be Boco. I think at the beginning of Chapter 2 you have a brief window where Orbonne and Dorter are connected blue dots, so you could walk between the two dots endlessly until a red chocobo hatched. I played through a game with a "Monster Pimp" Ramza, where he was the only human character I allowed myself to use in battles (beyond the first couple to get my team situated) and that required me to get him to Mediator status right quick.

Flip side of the same coin, though, isn't it? There are a couple storyline battles in chapter 1 where I can see inviting a chocobo, plus a couple where they'd show up in randoms, as I recall. To get there, though, you're right, you'd have to get to Mediator quick, and that alone would probably be plenty of leveling by the time you got to Gafgarion.

Just a thought, though, really - didn't mean to imply that it was impossible to do it earlier, just that the process of doing it would by its very nature would probably make the mentioned battle easier. smile.gif

Posted by: Shinryu 27th January 2010 01:22
You guys are funny. All of the so-called "hardest" battles are pretty easy. I've never powerlevelled before the Deep Dungeon, where it's kind of unavoidable. Just plan your builds right and you'll never have trouble.

Golgorand?

Keep your guys hasted and use ninjas.


Gate of Lionel?

Holy. Gafgarion dies.


Wiegraf? Cake.

Wizard w/ White Magic, Two Swords.

Wizard Rod, Wizard Rod, Holy Miter, Wizard Robe, Magic Gauntlet.

Cast Holy on him once. End battle. Have a Monk use Chakra on him at the start of Velius fight, cast Holy again.


The roof of Riovanes was tough 'cause Rafa would usually kill herself before any of my guys got a turn.

And inside of Limberry wasn't difficult, just frustrating and time consuming. Learn Ultima in the previous battle so's you can kill Celia and Lede right away. Ramza should Yell at your thief and someone keep Elmdor on slow. More turns = more chances to steal. It still took me an hour and a half.

Posted by: Sathayorn 21st February 2010 10:32
Well... The one-on-one Wiegraf battle was impossible for me last time, I forgot I had to fight him one-on-one... I had no way of healing myself (except potions) and he killed me in 2 hits...

Posted by: trismegistus 21st February 2010 18:30
Hm...for storyline battles, I'd say that Golgollada, Inside Riovanes, Finnath if you have bad luck.

There are some pretty nasty random battles too, I don't think I ever was able to beat the one against 8 Monks.

Posted by: _BeowulfKadmus 9th March 2010 20:50
I'm only on my 3rd full playthrough, and I don't know what has come over me.
I'm stuck at Velius!

Wiegraf in human form is absolute cake, but for some reason Velius and his Archdemons overwhelm me everytime. Ah well, I'll keep trying I suppose.

Posted by: Fistrules 10th March 2010 19:24
Quote (_BeowulfKadmus @ 9th March 2010 20:50)
I'm only on my 3rd full playthrough, and I don't know what has come over me.
I'm stuck at Velius!

Wiegraf in human form is absolute cake, but for some reason Velius and his Archdemons overwhelm me everytime. Ah well, I'll keep trying I suppose.

if you used the old "have Ramza yell like no tomorrow than Cheer Up like no tomorrow and end with Accumulating like no tomorrow" after you kill Wiegraf, the stats boost from the battle with Wiegraf, tranfer to the battle with Velius. To make it so Wiegraf doesnt get clean hits at you, Equip Chamleon Robe, Feather Boots, and a good shield so that Wiegraf only has two attacks that now have low hit %

Posted by: _BeowulfKadmus 10th March 2010 20:34
Quote (Fistrules @ 10th March 2010 19:24)
Quote (_BeowulfKadmus @ 9th March 2010 20:50)
I'm only on my 3rd full playthrough, and I don't know what has come over me.
I'm stuck at Velius!

Wiegraf in human form is absolute cake, but for some reason Velius and his Archdemons overwhelm me everytime. Ah well, I'll keep trying I suppose.

if you used the old "have Ramza yell like no tomorrow than Cheer Up like no tomorrow and end with Accumulating like no tomorrow" after you kill Wiegraf, the stats boost from the battle with Wiegraf, tranfer to the battle with Velius. To make it so Wiegraf doesnt get clean hits at you, Equip Chamleon Robe, Feather Boots, and a good shield so that Wiegraf only has two attacks that now have low hit %

I don't feel like cheesing it out and using the yell thing, but I'll give the equipment set a try. tongue.gif

Posted by: Blackie_Chan 21st May 2010 18:25
Quote (Rangers51 @ 15th January 2010 07:23)
Quote (Neal @ 15th January 2010 08:52)
Early mediator can get you a chocobo in chapter 1 if you so desire - doesn't have to be Boco.  I think at the beginning of Chapter 2 you have a brief window where Orbonne and Dorter are connected blue dots, so you could walk between the two dots endlessly until a red chocobo hatched.  I played through a game with a "Monster Pimp" Ramza, where he was the only human character I allowed myself to use in battles (beyond the first couple to get my team situated) and that required me to get him to Mediator status right quick.

Flip side of the same coin, though, isn't it? There are a couple storyline battles in chapter 1 where I can see inviting a chocobo, plus a couple where they'd show up in randoms, as I recall. To get there, though, you're right, you'd have to get to Mediator quick, and that alone would probably be plenty of leveling by the time you got to Gafgarion.

Just a thought, though, really - didn't mean to imply that it was impossible to do it earlier, just that the process of doing it would by its very nature would probably make the mentioned battle easier. smile.gif

Actually it depends on your approach to leveling. I decided this time that I am playing I am going to do super Ramza, 1 character fighting challange. So what I decided to do is unlock all of the classes before Sweegy Woods and cherry pick the key skills I need to powerlevel (so I can level and delevel).

At level 13 on Ramza I have every class unlocked except: MIME, ninja, and samurai. I think that should happen by level 28.

The key for doing this so early is make everyone a squires out of your starting chemists, and then remove the actual squires from your party. Purchase squires from the soldier office that align good zodiac. The new squires should have enough points from chemist to have potion and phoenix down skills available.

Do the squire job on everyone (including ramza) until they get accumulate and get jp up (yell also for ramza). I then level chemistry till level 4. After that its pretty fast splitting your party for Wizards and priests to level 4 (purchase frog and holy once pl'ed), when you get to time mages and oracles you should switch ramza to knight>monk until you get time mages and oracles to level 4/5 so you everyone (including ramza) can purchase teleport and foxbird.

Level your guys as calculators (Ramza still a monk with squire subjob) until all 5 people get get exp up (should be by job level 3). This can be pretty fast if you do a cross formation in manalia and heal and yell your party. I am at lvl 13 at this point.

My next steps is archer 4, knight 4, (monk will already be lvl 4 for everyone, 8 for ramza), Geomancer 4, and then you can get ninja. I think that will be lvl 25 or so. Basically I will play until barius hills (the one with water fall) mediate a squid into my group, breed him until i get the one with level blast, and then go back to Mandalia and level and delevel until ramza he has super speed.

Then I will put him back in the game at lvl 10 but as a Squire/Monk with Counter Flood (I love the status effects), two swords and teleport.

Does anyone know if height is a factor in how far you can teleport?

Posted by: Fistrules 24th May 2010 15:17
Quote (Blackie_Chan @ 21st May 2010 18:25)
Does anyone know if height is a factor in how far you can teleport?

no height is not a factor in teleporting, only your current move number and the distance you're going to teleport. for every extra squares you go over, the sucess percentage decreases by 10%

Posted by: Rangers51 8th June 2010 19:38
Man. I'm to the battle with Balk (or whatever he's called on PSP, I can never recall) on my way to the final battle, and it's reminded me how tough it can be when you don't have many powerful ranged attacks. The setup of the map makes it so all three Hydra-class enemies can reach you all at once, and some bad luck with their triple attacks can ruin just about anyone's day at level 40.

Posted by: Mordred 10th June 2010 05:07
Quote (Illyrias_Acolyte @ 12th June 2009 17:06)
Opinions on this seem to vary more than I thought they would (every walkthrougher has his own opinion), but the battle that's caused me to throw my controller the most was the Golgorand Execution Site (or the Gollgada Gallows, or however you want to refer to it). Strangely, the one-on-one with Weigraf has never given me as much grief as Gaff's dark swordskills. You're outmanned, outgunned, and generally outclassed in many ways.

That's if we're talking about actual victory. The fight with Elmdore and his ladies is easily the most infuriating if you're trying to steal the Genji equipment, bar none.

I didn't have much trouble stealing the Genji gear... Even if Elmdor is immune to Chicken, he's still a wuss with 0 Brave.

'Course, his constant teleporting does become a bit annoying, but it's hardly a matter for throwing the controller.

Posted by: Nytecrawla 10th June 2010 17:16
Quote (Shinryu @ 26th January 2010 21:22)
Gate of Lionel?

Holy. Gafgarion dies.


Wiegraf? Cake.

Wizard w/ White Magic, Two Swords.

Wizard Rod, Wizard Rod, Holy Miter, Wizard Robe, Magic Gauntlet.

Cast Holy on him once. End battle. Have a Monk use Chakra on him at the start of Velius fight, cast Holy again.

Have fun waiting 9 turns for Holy to pop on Gaf while he's busy Night and Dark swording you to oblivion. Same applies to Weigraf. A strategy that leaves you open to tons of hits might work when you use a GS with Inf HP turned on, but real world, these would both fail hard. Never leave yourself open to get pounded.

Posted by: Eagle Caller 30th January 2015 07:26
Depends what I'm doing.

The first time through Riovanes sticks out in my mind. Grinded Lancers with level 8 and height 8 ability with auto-potions. Velius had to many spread out targets to try and kill if auto potion didn't trigger.

Item or Steal is my secondary ability in a normal game. Before Math Skill becomes useful.

The games wasn't super hard for me in the early years.

Posted by: db84x 15th February 2015 05:07
I think Roof of Riovaness is hard since it hard to keep Rafa alive while we try to steal for Celia and Lede

Posted by: Rangers51 13th May 2016 02:09
I happened to think of this thread earlier because I know of a couple folks (one of whom was mentioning it in chat earlier just tonight) who put the game down due to the sheer frustration of being a new player and reaching the difficulty spike at Dorter in chapter one. If you're not prepared for it, that is one tough battle, and I think it's worth giving it some anti-love for that fact. smile.gif

Posted by: chevleclair 13th May 2016 04:03
The roof @ Riovanes castle. Inside Riovanes, a simple change of equipment to counteract any status effects erases most of the difficulty there. On the roof, however, it's a crapshoot. Either Rafa moves toward your party and the battle is winnable, or she moves toward the Marquis- where she's instantly killed. This is determined by RNG, and frustrates me to no end.

Posted by: TrueBOSS 13th May 2016 04:04
Dorter did ramp it up. But i never found that fight too hard. The roof of Riovanes was rough as it was and planning to do some stealing was even rougher. Until my knights land a couple speed down strikes on them that is but getting to that point was rough.
It was mostly early game fights that where rough. By late game there wasn't anything i couldn't handle. I've always been disappointed that there isn't some super boss at the end game to bring some real challenge to the pros of this game. I played the psp rerelease hoping that one would be among the extra content on the game. sad.gif This game has a special place in my memory. Of Joy, Pride, Disappointment, and frustration all at the same time.

Posted by: Eagle Caller 4th December 2017 08:24
I know I posted a long time ago but lets look at the criteria for difficulty.

-When you try to blitz the game it could be hard early on for the first few battles. You might have to reset to get the quickest time because you leveled/learned incorrectly. But not too hard once you get going I'd imagine.

-Single class character with no secondary abilities and same class support ability. I think this makes Monks, Chemists, and the Priest stronger. I have limited experience beating an entire run with one character but I think also a Summoner might be able to do it. Easier once you level up of course.

-Flawless game that I recently did. Every battle is a little tense. You have to go carefully through the game knowing that any battle could be a characters last. Except Ramza of course. All the recovery options are your best friends and there's no shame in leveling up and learning job abilities for this type of game completion.

These are my main three. If you go through the game normally meaning leveling up regularly and learning the right abilities it isn't too hard. It depends on your set up in a normal game. Play the battle to your characters strengths.

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