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Nintendo Power's Review of FFIV DS

Posted: 3rd July 2008 15:54

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They gave it a 9. That's pretty good.

They said that those who've played the original might not think it's worth it, but that those who've never played it before will.

They also said that it's more difficult, with enemies having better attacks and using them.

ALSO, it said that fans of the original will be traumatized to learn that they've been pronouncing Cecil and Yang's names wrong... blink.gif

Well, just wanted to post that. happy.gif
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Posted: 3rd July 2008 19:11

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Well, I'm glad they liked it. Is there any sort of link to this review?

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Posted: 4th July 2008 18:02

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Quote (Ultimaniac @ 3rd July 2008 11:54)
ALSO, it said that fans of the original will be traumatized to learn that they've been pronouncing Cecil and Yang's names wrong... blink.gif

I saw a preview video on Amazon, and was hoping having voice actors was only for the ad. The way they were pronouncing "Cecil" is going to bother me so much when I get it.

How the heck else do you pronounce "Yang"?

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Posted: 4th July 2008 18:42

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I guess you could say it with a short "a" sound...that is, if you think the only way to say it is with a long "a" sound. Voice actors find a way to screw up everything.

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Posted: 4th July 2008 19:10

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I took chinese for 4 years in high school, so I was pronouncing Yang correctly. tongue.gif

People see Y-A-N-G and thing to say it american in the same fashion that they say Ying-Yang. This is an american butchery, and is wrong.

The light "a" mentioned earlier should have that aaahhh sound like what you'd say at the dentist.

As the roots would be Y- and -ang, sometimes breaking it apart like that helps make more sense of it.


I'm assuming that the mispronunciation of Cecil is that most people say "Cee - Sill" as it should be pronounced "Sess - Ull" ?

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Posted: 5th July 2008 01:55

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I took chinese for 4 years in high school, so I was pronouncing Yang correctly. tongue.gif

my high school only offers Spanish and French.

i have the magazine. i can't find a link. their review has me excited about it. i've never played 4 before.

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Posted: 5th July 2008 09:26

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It rhymes with "Wang" or else it gets the hose again, are we clear?

And to those saying we've been doing it wrong, nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off! You asked me I didn't ask you! And I did what I had to do to win, for somebody who wouldn't let us win! Rhymes with "Wang" or else it gets the hose again! Exclamation mark?!


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Posted: 5th July 2008 14:51

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Quote (Del S @ 5th July 2008 09:26)
It rhymes with "Wang" or else it gets the hose again, are we clear?

And to those saying we've been doing it wrong, nothing is over! Nothing! You just don't turn it off! You asked me I didn't ask you! And I did what I had to do to win, for somebody who wouldn't let us win! Rhymes with "Wang" or else it gets the hose again! Exclamation mark?!


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i agree. golf clap for the First Blood quote.

i don't thin there is any set way of pronouncing anything. it's like that old song.

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Posted: 5th July 2008 18:05

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Hmm...don't know if there's a link. Sorry. sad.gif

I don't care how they pronounce it, to me, Cecil is "See-sil". I don't like "Sess-ill".

And Yang..."Yahng"? Eww, I don't wanna hear that!
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Posted: 6th July 2008 00:03

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Well... turns out I must have been pronouncing it wrong all along... so it looks like I won't be very disappointed laugh.gif

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Posted: 6th July 2008 00:22

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i always said Sess-ill and Yang (like sang)

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Posted: 29th July 2008 01:49

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CGI, voice acting and better script maked it a better game, it's a huge difference between the other scripts, pherhaps too "epic".
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Posted: 19th August 2008 23:26

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I'm a Nintendo Power reader, thought I'd copy the review if anyone wants to read exactly what they said.

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It took a certain amount of nostalgia to enjoy the 2006 DS remake of Final Fantasy III, which mixed modern production values with antiquated game design. Not so with Final Fantasy IV - the combination of stronger source material and more-extensive refinements leave this DS remake feeling as well-crafted and modern as the best original RPGs being made today. Dozens of updates, from the major (a complete rebalancing of the party character abilities) to the minor (removing the need to purchase individual arrows), have brought the game up to contemporary standards of balance and usability. A particularly welcome addition is the new Augment system, which adds an element of character-building to FFIV for the very first time, giving players the option to transfer abilities from one character to another or even to learn completely new ones. The game has also received a significant difficulty spike, with bosses in particular getting deadlier attacks and more complicated patterns. The heightened level of challenge can be jarring at times, but there's nothing so tough that you can't get past it with some trial and error or a half hour spent leveling up your party.
  The most noticeable upgrade is in the game's production values, which have elevated Final Fantasy IV from a first-generation Super NES game into one of the most state-of-the-art titles in the DS library. The game uses roughly the same 3-D engine as Final Fantasy III, but with several significant improvements. The battles load more quickly now, despite the larger party sizes and much flashier battle animations. The extra screen on the DS is put to great use, featuring automaps, detailed battle data, and even a thought bubble from your party leader. Many of the game's elaborate event scenes are now voiced, and voiced well - although you can turn that off entirely if you aren't prepared for the trauma of learning that you've been mispronouncing Cecil and Yang's names for 17 years.
  The only part of Final Fantasy IV that feels at all dated is the story, and even that doesn't feel old-fashioned in a bad way. FFIV was made in an era when characters were built around heroic archetypes, not around neuroses, and there wasn't enough space on a cartridge to waste on irrelevant subplots and woe-is-me brooding. That makes for a tale that is focused and extraordinarily fast-paced - nary an hour passes without a death, betrayal, or a miraculous recovery, and those events are dwelled upon for no more than a few seconds before it's back to the action. FFIV's story may have all the depth of a Saturday-morning cartoon, but considering how often RPGs fail at tackling heavier fare, the classic heroes-versus-villains yarn is actually sort of refreshing. The well-animated and nicely stylized event scenes do a wonderful job of bringing the story to life, and being both brief and action-packed, are always a welcome diversion.
  The developers have done everything they needed to do to win over a new generation of Final Fantasy IV fans, but they've done disappointingly little to appeal to the existing ones. Though Final Fantasy IV veterans will appreciate the upgraded visuals and increased level of challenge, this remake offers little in terms of new content. The Augment system provides a few new abilities, Rydia's new Whyt summon spell comes with a series of surprisingly fun touch-screen minigames, and there are a few new event scenes and a beautiful CG-animated opening movie, but that's about it. Every area is a map-for-map remake of its previous iteration, and there are no new subquests, characters, or dungeons (nor are there any of the dungeons added in Final Fantasy IV Advance). If you played through FFIV Advance only a few years ago, you probably aren't going to find enough here to justify a double dip. But if you haven't played FFIV in years, or you haven't played it at all, this is the definitive version of the game, and one of the best role-playing games on the DS.


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Posted: 20th August 2008 01:31

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i think it is those who have played FFIV Ad or FFII will like FFIVDS, and those who havent will be less likely to enjoy it...

I used to say both names wrong, but i actually enjoy them either way...Yang's actual pronunciation sounds much more true to the character to me.

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Posted: 20th August 2008 05:27

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-shrug- For the record, it should probably be Seh-SEAL, given that it's a spanish name.


I like that it's more difficult. It's easier to level, because leveling only takes a few battles, and it makes boss fights actually really hard.

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Posted: 20th August 2008 17:05

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Funny, I have played the game several times and I couldn't wait for the DS remake. I think that it's the other way around; gamers who perhaps haven't had a chance to play Final Fantasy IV before at all might be put off by the difficulty while fans of the original might like the remake because of the difficulty and new content.

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Posted: 20th August 2008 22:39

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Funny, I have played the game several times and I couldn't wait for the DS remake. I think that it's the other way around; gamers who perhaps haven't had a chance to play Final Fantasy IV before at all might be put off by the difficulty while fans of the original might like the remake because of the difficulty and new content.

I agree. I'm a BIG fan of FFIV. By far my favorite Final Fantasy ever. I have played through the SNES more times then I could count. I was actually quite turned off by the FFIVa version. I beat it once. I got tired of the bonus dungeon. It felt so fake to me, and being able to go back and reuse the characters at the end... I don't know.... It just felt so fake to me.

However, I am in love with FFIVDS. It is a beautiful game, and it is so true to the original. I love the dificulty increase. Even though I know the enemies and bosses so well, I actually feel challanged by them now. I just beat Dark Elf today, and I loved it! Poor Tellah kept getting blasted, Cecil struggling to keep them alive. Yang and Cid pounding his face in, and tossing out potions and ethers. It was beautiful. I haven't got much into the Augment abilities, but I think it will be nice. No longer will I have to get bored with just choosing "Jump" every round. Some of the abilities I never used, I find myself loving. Kick for example.... I would never bother with it before, but I use it alot more now.

I love this game. *hugs his DS*

Oh yea.... I was saying Yang and Cecil wrong, but I'm fine with it. It works for them.

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Posted: 21st August 2008 16:55

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I had also been pronouncing Fusoya (or FuSoYa) wrong....I think.

I was saying it like "Few-soy-a".
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Posted: 31st August 2008 19:38

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I still dunno how people have been saying Cecil wrong, I can't imagine the name being said in any other way....
Is it a UK (Here) versus American speech differance?
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Posted: 31st August 2008 20:18

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I've never pronounced Cecil differently than the way it is said in either translation of the game. I've only ever mispronounced Yang because of the long vowel.

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Posted: 31st August 2008 20:21

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I still dunno how people have been saying Cecil wrong, I can't imagine the name being said in any other way....
Is it a UK (Here) versus American speech differance?

I don't think it is. Every single "real" Cecil I've ever heard of has it pronounced that way. Cecil B. De Mille, Cecil Fielder, Sideshow Cecil. People be crazy.

And honestly, the new difficulty didn't bother me at all until the very, very end of the game. It was a very unpleasant surprise when I learned that Bahamut's Megaflare can't be reflected anymore, and certain attacks (Scorch, Laser Barrage, Inferno, etc.) are doing WAY more damage than I remember. I'm currently doing treasure runs at the Path to the Core, and overall I'm really happy with the new version - leveling's easier, there're more abilities to play around with, but battles and strategies are harder. My only regret - I missed out on Dual Cast pinch.gif .

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So...if I'm understanding it correctly...

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Quote (laszlow @ 31st August 2008 22:21)
It was a very unpleasant surprise when I learned that Bahamut's Megaflare can't be reflected anymore,...

What?!?
I mean, that was the point of the entire battle with Bahamut originally... o.O
As to the difficulty, I'm currently stuck on Dr Lugae and he keeps killing my party with that Reversal Gas stuff...

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Posted: 1st September 2008 11:43

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I KNOW! Now he casts Reflect on himself right away and bounces MegaFlare off, doing crazy damage to your party if you let him use it. Instead of reflecting his power back, I had to cast Slow on him and just beat the living crap out of him as fast as I could, and bounced regular Flares off my own characters' Reflects. The first time I fought him I thought the usual strategy would work, so I cast Reflect all of my own characters and waited for his countdown, but that didn't quite go as planned....

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