Posted: 25th February 2009 11:00
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Onion Knight Posts: 40 Joined: 31/1/2009 Awards: |
I'm interested in possibly buying Final Fantasy IV, but first I need opinions on it. Which is the better buy? The PSone, Snes or DS versions? (I have all three consoles at home which gives me quite a challenge X3) And is the story any good? I think thats the most important part. I love a game with a good plot.
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Posted: 25th February 2009 11:38
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I think that the plot is one of the very best in the Final Fantasy series. It's easy to grow attached to the characters, and the twists and events that take place are among the most memorable in the series. One of my favorite video game storylines in general.
And you forget, there are FOUR English versions of FF IV - the SNES, PS1, GBA, and DS versions. The SNES is the easiest version (difficulty is toned down), but also has a goofy translation. The PS1 version has a few load times (nothing that bad) and translation changes but is otherwise very similar to the SNES version (difficulty is no longer toned down, either). The GBA version is the same as the PS1 version, except with a fully revamped translation and several bonus dungeons and features at the very end of the game. I had a lot of fun with those bonus features, personally. The DS version is a complete visual overhaul of the game, changing no story or characters, but delivering everything in a 3D engine interspersed with gorgeous FMVs and yet another new translation. There are also a few new features like dungeon maps, trading skills from character to character, and a few small extra sidequests. The new content from the GBA version is not present in the DS version. Overall, I'd go for the GBA version. It has the oldschool visuals that I'm used to, plus the most raw content in the game with the two extra dungeons and more characters available. Remember, you can play GBA games on your DS. -------------------- |
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Posted: 25th February 2009 11:50
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I can't believe that you have alllllll those consoles and have never played FF4. It seems impossible.
I think I have to go with Lasz, honestly; while the SNES version remains tops in my book, I think that probably is really just because I played it first when I was like eleven and it was new. The GBA version has everything the SNES has, but with more content and portability. I remember the playability being a bit worse on PSX than Lasz does, I think, and the DS version, while cool, just never seemed quite "right" to me. -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Posted: 25th February 2009 17:33
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Onion Knight
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I'd go with the GBA version too, for the same reasons - old school graphics, extra content, and portability. Failing that I'd go with the SNES version, just for the nostalgia factor.
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Posted: 26th February 2009 08:52
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Chocobo Knight Posts: 134 Joined: 13/1/2008 Awards: |
I definately wouldn't go for the PS1 version.. overall parts of the setup and all that jazz were shocking. I'd recommend the GBA version too
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Posted: 26th February 2009 21:05
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I played the SNES version (FF II) in the U.S..
It's a fun game to play around with. I felt it was hard to become attached to the characters. It was easier in FFVI (FFIII) and FFV (RPGe translated SNES ROM). The "choppiness" (lack of "flow") of the events probably contributed to it. Hopefully this was fixed by FFIV DS or FFIV GBA having a better script. The music is solid, though I wouldn't rank it as Uematsu's best. FFVI and FFVII definitely outclass it, but that doesn't mean that FFIV doesn't have its legendary sounds--the boss battle theme is among the best I've heard, for example. One minor gameplay issue that I remember was the lack of visible time bars--you never really knew when characters were going to act, other than that there would likely be some sort of delay. Maybe there are time bars in the newer versions. Also, in return for some of the more annoying things he did (and also due to his status as the highest-leveled party member), there was a certain satisfaction in loading state and killing Kain with the trapdoors. But you probably won't do that when you play, especially if you play on console. This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 26th February 2009 21:08 -------------------- current games (2024-02-19): Fairy Fencer F ADF Pokémon Perfect Crystal finished so far this year: Gato Roboto drowning, drowning New Super Mario Bros. TMNT 3: Radical Rescue tabled: Lost Ruins |
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Posted: 27th February 2009 01:04
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Quote I can't believe that you have alllllll those consoles and have never played FF4. It seems impossible. No kidding! I bought the GBA version AND the PSX version. I would personally suggest that you get the PSX version, Final Fantasy Chronicles, because it comes with Chrono Trigger (assuming you haven't played it yet). In addition, while I like the GBA for its travel function and added content, I just find it so much easier to get into a home console game. -------------------- Currently Playing : Final Fantasy V Most Recently Beat : Elder Scrolls: Skyrim Favorite Game : Final Fantasy X The newest CoNcast is up! Have a listen! |
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Posted: 27th February 2009 05:37
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Cactuar Posts: 228 Joined: 10/2/2009 Awards: |
Haven't played the Game Boy Advanced version and/or the DS version so can't really say much. But played and enjoyed the SNES and PlayStation versions. The PlayStation when flying around in the skies with the airship the graphics look a little chopped up [ like the PlayStation can't handle it ] Apart from that the storyline and plot has improved and makes more sense than the SNES version [ like they explain more about Kain's past ] If you want more of a challenge and don't mind a slower loading time the PlayStation would be alright to get, otherwise would say get the GBA or DS. The GBA and DS versions would probably have the most improvement on storyline detail, characters, graphics, and the game music. Or you could close your eyes and just point randomly at one version of Final Fantasy IV, sometimes doing things out of total luck and accident works better. -------------------- Currently playing Chrono Trigger !! Currently looking forward to Don't Know. |
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Posted: 27th February 2009 14:58
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Black Mage Posts: 206 Joined: 14/2/2009 Awards: |
Quote (Death Penalty @ 27th February 2009 01:04) I bought the GBA version AND the PSX version. I would personally suggest that you get the PSX version, Final Fantasy Chronicles, because it comes with Chrono Trigger (assuming you haven't played it yet). In addition, while I like the GBA for its travel function and added content, I just find it so much easier to get into a home console game. Well, that can easily be solved by a Gamecube+Gameboy Player, that way you have a console game that becomes portable whenever you want. If youâre going for the plot, Iâll recommend the DS version, just for the extra scenes. Also I felt the trough bubbles added something to the characters. On the other hand the others have this 2D âcharmâ. I havenât played the GBA version, but apart of the extra stuff I heard itâs kind of glitchy. -------------------- "Love, and do what you will" Saint Augustine |
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Posted: 8th March 2009 14:06
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Onion Knight Posts: 30 Joined: 6/1/2009 Awards: |
Quote (Sandyboots @ 27th February 2009 14:58) I havenât played the GBA version, but apart of the extra stuff I heard itâs kind of glitchy. Granted they are. It's possible to cheat (getting a quick free turn) with their laggy ATB gauge in battle. It really isn't an improvement over the original, but I like watching the bars fill up so I can know who's next (even though that's not always the case with this one, since again, you can get free turns instantly at times). It was an ok release of a great, great game. But atleast it had more features than FF2us by returning the elements from FF4 Hard Type and as usual of Square's re-releases to add more content to it to give gamers a reason to cash out on the game. ~AngelWtich666~ -------------------- I've been locked away for all these years Now I can see the light of day Things have changed a lot since I was last out here I guess that's the way things, way things go |
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Posted: 11th May 2009 21:40
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Engineer Posts: 391 Joined: 8/7/2005 Awards: |
great story, but minimal replay value. I also didnt like the fact that in the original that you couldnt choose different characters, but oh well.
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Posted: 23rd June 2009 23:29
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Crusader Posts: 1,531 Joined: 19/6/2009 Awards: |
Quote (?????_UknownTrainGhost @ 11th May 2009 21:40) great story, but minimal replay value. I also didnt like the fact that in the original that you couldnt choose different characters, but oh well. I dunno i mean kain's story seemed good in ff4. I never played gba version so i don't know,it looks good. I do not like the 3d graphics they gave cecil in the ds version.They make cecil look like a little kid,and for some reason the colours of his hair and his face posture in a 2 bit 2d world make him seem older.The whole thing gave their characters a look and personality wich both made them legendary. And soundtrack not good? are you insane? All the pieces are great in ff4 I loved them. The moon piece,cave piece the music for dwarf town the battle song for tough bosses and then of course crystal room song wich is beutifull. Ff4 is the game with the most amount of songs i love. Another thing.i got the psx version and i don't notice any choppyness.Then again i wasn't looking for it either,but i do notice the dificulty and bosses that never used to be hard for me are now pretty hard in the last dungeon. This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 23rd June 2009 23:32 -------------------- We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars. Neil Degrasse Tyson. |
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Posted: 30th June 2009 19:07
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Cactuar Posts: 252 Joined: 25/6/2009 Awards: |
I have it on GBA emulator and have played at a friend on the SNES and PS1 (don't ask me why he got it for the PS1 and SNES) and the GBA seems best
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Posted: 25th July 2009 04:35
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Returner Posts: 15 Joined: 23/4/2004 Awards: |
The GBA version is the best of the lot. The European version has the bugs of the NA version fixed. I have no idea how you'd (legitimately) get ahold of a copy. Ebay, I guess.
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Posted: 3rd August 2009 17:04
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Crusader Posts: 1,531 Joined: 19/6/2009 Awards: |
Quote (Eddie Lukin @ 25th July 2009 04:35) The GBA version is the best of the lot. The European version has the bugs of the NA version fixed. I have no idea how you'd (legitimately) get ahold of a copy. Ebay, I guess. Hmm i would go for the gba version as it will be fully translated well then,plus has new dungeons and dificulty. I wish they would make a version of gba for a big screen. Thing is,i don't really like looking downwards towards the psp or gb screen,its uncomfortable. I would also like to point out something: I dislike the 3d graphics the designers gave ffIV,they took away the complexity of the characters that gave them a sort of special touch. This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 3rd August 2009 17:13 -------------------- We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars. Neil Degrasse Tyson. |
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Posted: 3rd August 2009 17:40
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Onion Knight Posts: 42 Joined: 16/12/2008 Awards: |
Let me just say this (and this is entirely my own opinion)
My favorite Final Fantasy is VI, hands down. But if they were to make a movie out of the FF franchise, I would want it to be of IV. (VI can get a series!) True to its awkward North American release name, it was the second FF I played (after having played the original to death) and I was blown away. The graphics and music were astounding, and it actually had characters and a plot! The plot might seem a tad trite nowadays (though it's nowhere near as bad as V. No offense to anyone that likes V, I don't hate it, but the plot is sooooo reahashed) but it does have some powerful moments. Having never played the DS remake I recommend the GBA version. It has some enhanced graphics and mechanics that make it a bit more palatable, and it has a few extra features the original does not. All in all, I don't know how profound you'll find it, but it's a solid game and everything Final Fantasy is supposed to be. -------------------- No matter how hard I try, I just can't get worried about it! |
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Posted: 4th August 2009 06:26
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Crusader Posts: 1,531 Joined: 19/6/2009 Awards: |
Quote (Doughboyjones @ 3rd August 2009 17:40) Let me just say this (and this is entirely my own opinion) My favorite Final Fantasy is VI, hands down. But if they were to make a movie out of the FF franchise, I would want it to be of IV. (VI can get a series!) True to its awkward North American release name, it was the second FF I played (after having played the original to death) and I was blown away. The graphics and music were astounding, and it actually had characters and a plot! The plot might seem a tad trite nowadays (though it's nowhere near as bad as V. No offense to anyone that likes V, I don't hate it, but the plot is sooooo reahashed) but it does have some powerful moments. Having never played the DS remake I recommend the GBA version. It has some enhanced graphics and mechanics that make it a bit more palatable, and it has a few extra features the original does not. All in all, I don't know how profound you'll find it, but it's a solid game and everything Final Fantasy is supposed to be. Actually i enjoyed ffIV I found that it was the father of drama rpgs in the ff series. It was dramatic but not romantic. I did not care for ffVIII's romance as i'm not big on romance in videogames and in ffVIII i find it a bit predictable. Although i do admit something,ff5 characters are not as strong as the ff4's characters and there is something of sorts that kind of pulls you in with the characters. The drama doesn't hinder ffIV as it seems to actually add to the game something,it is the first and only ff that i know that can be considered a tragedy.(well i'm not going to spoil it) Also,somehow the stripes of colours in cecils hair adds contrast to his character. The colours of his hair and the pose and everything make him seem less youthful. This post has been edited by Magitek_slayer on 4th August 2009 06:32 -------------------- We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars. Neil Degrasse Tyson. |
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Posted: 4th August 2009 11:25
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Onion Knight Posts: 42 Joined: 16/12/2008 Awards: |
Wait a sec...I never said I didn't like it.
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Posted: 4th August 2009 21:20
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Magitek Soldier Posts: 321 Joined: 22/7/2005 Awards: |
Quote (Zephyrsword @ 25th February 2009 06:00) I'm interested in possibly buying Final Fantasy IV, but first I need opinions on it. Which is the better buy? The PSone, Snes or DS versions? (I have all three consoles at home which gives me quite a challenge X3) And is the story any good? I think thats the most important part. I love a game with a good plot. Keep in mind i want this thread spoiler-free, as I have never played it This is a tough question, and many answers are going to be objective. The PlayStation port is basically the original SNES version, but it is the "hard" version that Japan originally got. The original NA release dummied out a lot of items and abilities, but they are all there for the PS version. The GBA version has slightly better graphics, and you have a choice in characters at the end, as well as the (fairly awesome) bonus dungeons. The DS version has the 3d graphics, voice acting, and expanded storyline, as well as ramping up the difficulty of some bosses. You cannot choose characters at the end, but you get the augment system. In my opinion, the GBA version is the "best" version, but it is clear that they wanted the DS one to be the "definitive" version. |
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Posted: 11th August 2009 16:07
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Chocobo Knight Posts: 150 Joined: 18/3/2006 Awards: |
I've only played the SNES version and Japanese SNES/Super Famicom on ROM with a translation (J2E).
I think it's a great game, but the original SNES version is much easier and explains a little less. The GBA and DS versions seem to be promising, but I've never played them. |
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Posted: 12th August 2009 19:35
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Onion Knight Posts: 40 Joined: 21/6/2009 Awards: |
Three magical words: Best game ever.
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Posted: 16th August 2009 23:34
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This is probably the game i've played on the most systems now that i think about it and in my opinion the GBA one was the best for the extra Espers and Dungeons. The DS was good aswell for the voice acting and great graphics. FF4 is just a great game whatever system you play it on.
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Posted: 22nd August 2009 09:21
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Red Wing Pilot Posts: 470 Joined: 31/5/2006 Awards: |
Quote (The Webspinner @ 16th August 2009 23:34) This is probably the game i've played on the most systems now that i think about it and in my opinion the GBA one was the best for the extra Espers and Dungeons Uh... Define Extra Espers? DO you mean the boss fights with the Eidolons in the Lunar Ruins? |
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Posted: 9th March 2010 21:07
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Quote (laszlow @ 25th February 2009 11:38) I think that the plot is one of the very best in the Final Fantasy series. It's easy to grow attached to the characters, and the twists and events that take place are among the most memorable in the series. One of my favorite video game storylines in general. And you forget, there are FOUR English versions of FF IV - the SNES, PS1, GBA, and DS versions. The SNES is the easiest version (difficulty is toned down), but also has a goofy translation. The PS1 version has a few load times (nothing that bad) and translation changes but is otherwise very similar to the SNES version (difficulty is no longer toned down, either). The GBA version is the same as the PS1 version, except with a fully revamped translation and several bonus dungeons and features at the very end of the game. I had a lot of fun with those bonus features, personally. The DS version is a complete visual overhaul of the game, changing no story or characters, but delivering everything in a 3D engine interspersed with gorgeous FMVs and yet another new translation. There are also a few new features like dungeon maps, trading skills from character to character, and a few small extra sidequests. The new content from the GBA version is not present in the DS version. Overall, I'd go for the GBA version. It has the oldschool visuals that I'm used to, plus the most raw content in the game with the two extra dungeons and more characters available. Remember, you can play GBA games on your DS. A much better version of what I would've said. xD Despite all of this, the end-game fight is not what I was expecting at all (In a bad way :/ ). It was too easy. But as Laszlow said, it may have been because of the simplicity of the SNES version. Ah well; it was satisfying to play on a retro console. |
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Posted: 13th March 2010 17:16
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SOLDIER Posts: 743 Joined: 4/11/2004 Awards: |
The SNES version is what made me give the series a second chance after having rather poor personal experiences "Final Fantasy Adventure". I haven't tried any of the others but my experience with FF VI on the SNES vs. Playstation probably wouldn't be too far of a stretch to extrapolate this one thing upon: The Playstation's sound will suck in comparison. [By necessity, the GBA version would too, if not only due to hardware limitations.] While I tend to love very many of the Final Fantasy standard boss themes, Fight 2 is easily my favorite in the whole series. Apparently Square liked the piece quite a bit too since they referentially reused it in a certain game's secret.
Since I only have experience with one version, the rest of what I'd say would be personal spins of stuff I've heard at various Final Fantasy fan-sites (especially here) and comments on screenshots. Very likely a waste of time for anybody who'd read the above posts. If you haven't made it already, good luck in making the choice that best suits you. -------------------- |
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Posted: 14th March 2010 01:29
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Engineer Posts: 429 Joined: 28/1/2005 Awards: |
In my old age, I've come to realize that the plot is fairly ridiculous, but it only matters if you don't get too lucid.
However...man, this game is so much of my childhood...I still remember running to the video store after finishing 5th grade to get a copy of the game. Having previously grown up with the likes of Zelda II and Dragon Warrior (and Final Fantasy I), FFIV was such a radical improvement on, well, everything that mattered to me in a video game. I'm still overcome with nostalgia when I think about Cecil and Rydia grinding levels outside of Kaipo... Yeah, this game's in my top 5 greatest games ever, easy. There are few that are better (Actually, I can think of 3 off the top of my head). This post has been edited by trismegistus on 14th March 2010 01:31 -------------------- "If art doesn't risk upsetting expectations and challenging its audience, it can only stagnate." |
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Posted: 5th April 2010 01:01
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Almost twenty years since I've first played this game, I still love it. While I'll admit the plot has been done to death now, but at the time it was a fresh, new concept. I think it's aged well, and the ports, have introduced new audiences to this game that might not have played it the first time around.
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Posted: 3rd May 2010 07:37
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Crusader Posts: 1,531 Joined: 19/6/2009 Awards: |
Quote (trismegistus @ 14th March 2010 01:29) In my old age, I've come to realize that the plot is fairly ridiculous, but it only matters if you don't get too lucid. The game itself is with its flaws like all good rpgs. It is when they are not admitted like the ff7 fanboys in which you cannot be totally objective. even ff6 which i consider the best final fantasy game has its flaws. Back to ff4:The problem with ff4 is that you don't get to see zeromus much at all and by the time you do,he doesn't say hardly anything. He has a few dialogue sequences and then he says that his hatred has turned him into zeromus through ill wish and hate. He is pretty much as much personality as lavos or jenova for me. Also the moon thing being a son of a lunarian did kind of sound like something from a cheesy science fiction movie. But hey,its still a cool game. I still think that cecil's struggle with his past and the rest of the dialogue is pretty good. -------------------- We are stardust.Our bodies are made from the guts of exploding stars. Neil Degrasse Tyson. |
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Posted: 6th May 2010 01:23
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Cactuar Posts: 250 Joined: 2/5/2010 Awards: |
Great game, horrible story.
Just like Chrono Trigger. -------------------- "When we think there's no hope left, we keep looking until we find some!" - Claire Farron |
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Posted: 6th May 2010 01:37
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Behemoth Posts: 2,674 Joined: 9/12/2006 Awards: |
Quote (Smash Genesis @ 5th May 2010 21:23) Great game, horrible story. Just like Chrono Trigger. Not entirely. Final Fantay IV was an innovative game, storywise. Without it's innovation, the deep storylines shown in later games (not just FF) would not have occured. Also, since RPGs are within themselves story-driven games, how can its story be horrible and it still be a great game? -------------------- |
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