Posted: 1st June 2013 02:25
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Engineer Posts: 435 Joined: 28/5/2013 Awards: |
Edward is okay. People like to hate on him because he is a bard, and I must admit that bards are... not versatile. The thing is that you cannot think of him as a fighter or a spellcaster, but rather as just a bard. He sings the monsters to sleep, then you kill them. Or they kill Edward. But that is why he has the Hide ability, and also why you should put him in the back. Level him up a bit, and he can actually take out a few monsters. (I am addicted to earning experience, and Edward has on many occasions killed a monster singlehandedly.)
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Post #203488
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Posted: 25th September 2013 00:06
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Red Wing Pilot Posts: 530 Joined: 21/5/2005 Awards: |
I remember Edward being absolutely useless in the SNES version of the game. He's much more useful in the DS/mobile version. Being able to choose your song, instead of having one used at random, allows for better strategizing. Salve is also a useful function that I don't remember from the SNES version (but that may have been in the fan translated Super Famicon version I played...don't remember).
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Post #204608
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Posted: 25th September 2013 01:37
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Returner Posts: 17 Joined: 26/11/2012 Awards: |
I'm pretty ambivalent to be honest. Edward is obviously a "nice" guy, but in battle (at least in the PS1 version of the game I have) he's pretty useless. Overall, he's an interesting character who's rather underpowered in a fight.
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Post #204609
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Posted: 25th September 2013 17:51
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Black Waltz Posts: 900 Joined: 12/7/2011 Awards: |
I refuse to vote, as everyone knows I like him.
Yes, musicians are useless in a fight. And any musician worth his salt will tell you that they're not a fighter, they're a lover. Metal musicians included (they're just trying to kill the monsters). Edward did deserve to get smacked, though. In J2e's original fan translation, they have Cecil curse him out, which I thought was inappropriate for his character, so I removed it, but he did need to get smacked across the face a bit. You can't just lay down and die because you lost your loved one. Buck up, man! -------------------- X is blue. |
Post #204620
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Posted: 5th October 2013 00:57
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Engineer Posts: 435 Joined: 28/5/2013 Awards: |
I think Edward was a brave and "feels-y" man. He starts out cowardly, but with the help of Rydia and Anna, he grows up a lot. He is a pretty cool character. He is cooler in story than in gameplay, in my opinion.
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Post #204826
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Posted: 24th October 2013 14:45
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Magitek Soldier Posts: 277 Joined: 24/10/2013 Awards: |
I don't like edward at all. He (in my opinion) is the biggest joke of a character aside from FF7 Cait sith. He is weak, in battle he barely does damage and the only good bardsong is Hastemarch, which you'll get if you have it on another character, unless you leveled to very high. This is just my opinion.
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Post #205199
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Posted: 23rd November 2013 11:05
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Black Waltz Posts: 900 Joined: 12/7/2011 Awards: |
I have to say "Like," don't I?
Look, he's a goddamn musician. He wasn't expecting to have to go into battle, he doesn't even like being a prince. He likes music, and women, and a wee bit of the creature now and again, I'll wager. This guy had his entire world (his lover, his family, his kingdom) ripped away from him, and was immediately told that the Hero needed his help. Only the royal family of Damcyan can enter the cave, remember? This is what happens if you send a musician into battle. Plus, the kid's gotta be what, 17, 18? No hating on Edward. -------------------- X is blue. |
Post #205611
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Posted: 13th January 2014 23:00
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Returner Posts: 6 Joined: 13/1/2014 |
Edward is the character that first dwells with a loss of a love one that stands in my memory
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Post #205972
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Posted: 13th April 2014 14:25
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Chocobo Knight Posts: 150 Joined: 18/3/2006 Awards: |
He did get us "spoony." For that, I applaud him.
For character reasons, he's pretty OK in my book. I think he adds to the story and is intertwined with the rest of the cast pretty well, from his beginnings with Tellah (who was a pretty major character in the beginning of the game) throughout his support role with the Dark Elf and end game. As for playing with him? His name should be EdTurd or Turdward, because that's what he is. He is OK in the final dungeon because the Apollo harp does extra damage against dragon-types and he's pretty fast but his HP is garbage and he spends most of his time hiding. I won't comment on his class abilities because that's not really a problem that's exclusive to him. I will say this, I've been through the Lunar Ruins a few times now and I've not come across his final armor or weapon and I hear he gets a whole lot better after that, so I may report back after finding them if I change my mind. UPDATE: I stand corrected. Edward is quite useful once you have his final gear. His weapon does decent damage to anything, a little behind Edge I'd say but from the back row and all sorts of enemy types are weak to it, including dragons... so that's all 9's. Couple that with his speed and God forbid, Haste... and he absolutely cranks out the damage. His buffed up ability is pretty good but like rest of Edward... he's kind of a day late and a dollar short kind of guy. By the time you get his upgraded ability, it's really not all that useful... would have been a lot more useful earlier. He's terrible throughout the game and shines a good bit in the Lunar Sub and Crystal Palace with the Apollo Harp. He's pretty weak post game and in the Lunar Ruins until you get Loki's Lute and the Vishnu Vest which are both pretty far into the ruins. His trial doesn't net you much. He's a wonder vs Brachioraidos, I'll give him that. tl;dr Edward is quite good end game but it's pretty much too late. This post has been edited by Billdolfski on 13th April 2014 18:53 |
Post #206595
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Posted: 13th April 2014 16:19
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Black Mage Posts: 178 Joined: 7/1/2014 Awards: |
Edward Chris von Muir.
I have a habit of breaking questions down to justify potentially long winded and complex answers to what can be perceived as simple questions. For those who don't like that, and prefer a simple answer, I have one for you: Yes and No. You don't need to read beyond this point. If you want an explanation for that, here it is. Game systemically speaking, I can't stand the guy. In FFIV DS, the only person that drives me more insane is FuSoYa in terms of being worthless. He's good at dealing status damage with his Harp ability, but the only way to counteract his poor damage dealing ability is to lose the harp and that ability and equip him with a bow and arrow instead. Though, in the DS version, his "Potion" ability, which allows him to heal the entire party simultaneously comes in handy for most of his run with the party. So, if there's anything that redeems him, it's that. Otherwise, screw that. As a character in the story, he begins as a flighty, simpering prince and develops into a strong willed background hero and a charismatic leader to his people. This game is all about character development, and Edward fits in nicely. -------------------- "So, are you a fan of the Fett?" "Nah, I'm more of a Star Wars guy." |
Post #206598
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Posted: 14th April 2014 17:15
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Where did the Hide ability even come from? And who thought it was a good idea to have auto-hide be a low-HP ability? Was it decided for thematic reasons?
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Post #206611
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Posted: 15th April 2014 13:40
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Chocobo Knight Posts: 150 Joined: 18/3/2006 Awards: |
Auto Hide is quite frustrating, to say the least. Especially when you tell him to come out, waste a turn with another character to heal him and he's gone before you cast/use.
I hear the abusing berserk on a hiding Edward works really, really well... but I haven't bothered with it. Like I said before, he's pretty good at the absolute end of the game but only against certain enemies (though it's a lot) and the other guys who do consistent big damage to everything sure have a lot more hit points than he does. |
Post #206615
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Posted: 22nd April 2014 02:46
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Engineer Posts: 435 Joined: 28/5/2013 Awards: |
His auto-hide does not bother me much, as I do not exactly miss him.
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Post #206649
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Posted: 14th August 2014 03:29
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Onion Knight
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Didn't like him, but tbh outside of Cecil, Kain, who are mega awesome, and a few other characters, I wasn't much into FFIV's characters.
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Post #207362
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Posted: 4th June 2015 06:00
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Behemoth Posts: 2,674 Joined: 9/12/2006 Awards: |
Quote (Jasoncw @ 13th August 2014 23:29) Didn't like him, but tbh outside of Cecil, Kain, who are mega awesome, and a few other characters, I wasn't much into FFIV's characters. Cid is good, but like Yang and Edward, and many other characters, they often drop in and out of the party so they were never truly developed. I agree in thinking that FFIV's characters isn't the game's strong suit. -------------------- |
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