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Posted by: Ramza_HolyKnight 30th January 2004 01:25
I think FFIX was a really great game. Unfortunately, a lot of my friends disagree saying that the graphics were too cartoonish and made the game more childish. I didn't think the graphics got in the way at all, once the story gets underway the graphics represent the characters well. It is after all, a "Fantasy". What are your views on FFIX. You can list anything you want really, what you liked, what you didn't like and stuff like that. I also think Zidane was a good contrast to the three other main characters of the PSX final fantasies. What're your thoughts?

Posted by: Dark Paladin 30th January 2004 01:34
Quote (Ramza_HolyKnight @ 29th January 2004 20:25)
I think FFIX was a really great game. Unfortunately, a lot of my friends disagree saying that the graphics were too cartoonish and made the game more childish. I didn't think the graphics got in the way at all, once the story gets underway the graphics represent the characters well. It is after all, a "Fantasy". What are your views on FFIX. You can list anything you want really, what you liked, what you didn't like and stuff like that. I also think Zidane was a good contrast to the three other main characters of the PSX final fantasies. What're your thoughts?

Your friends are right, since graphics are the only thing that matters in video games.

Posted by: Ramza_HolyKnight 30th January 2004 01:36
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic pinch.gif

Posted by: Dark Paladin 30th January 2004 02:30
Quote (Ramza_HolyKnight @ 29th January 2004 20:36)
I sincerely hope you're being sarcastic  pinch.gif

You're new. Get used to my opinion of graphics whores.
If your buddies ever try using that arguement again, just use that. And the fact that it's an RPG. Graphics have little to no influence on RPG gameplay and quality.

Anyways...FFIX
It's my second favorite FF.
It is one of three of the main-series FFs where characters are distinct and unique, in and out of battle.
It has SO many mini-games and side quests, but they don't get tedious, like most games do.
All the references to former FFs is like a fun easter egg hunt.
The ability system was wonderful.
I liked the Synthesis Shop idea.
Thank you for going back to the "true" FF way (VII and VIII were skews, medieval epics are more interesting)
Card Game is annoyingly fun.
The characters had appropriate amounts of attention and development. The ones who barely got any were Amarant, who is supposed to be the mystery, and Quina, who is just that way.

Posted by: i90east 30th January 2004 02:33
I think he is. unsure.gif

There are a few points in the game where the story barely moves, and the game got so boring after a while that I never finished it. The special abilies of the characters arn't very interesting, in fact I can't even remember what they are. Freya had jump. Heh. It's hard to appreciate a newer FF game that's inferior to the standard set by the earlier games. That's my main point here.

Posted by: Super Moogle 30th January 2004 04:44
I came away from Final Fantasy IX with mixed feelings. Generally, I believe that Final Fantasy IX was awesome for maybe the first two discs, and then everything fell apart from there. There were a lot of good things about the first half of the game, and the size and scope of the world was great. There was also a fun sense of adventure and a slight but intriguing sense of humor. But like I said, it went downhill after the second disc.

The characters, I think, were good overall. I loved Vivi and Blank; they're definitely two of my favorite characters from any Final Fantasy. That being said, I couldn't stand Steiner. He was a gigantic blustering imbecile, and I despised him, as I've oft stated before.

The music and graphics and things were all of Final Fantasy quality, and the gameplay was decent if uninspired. I think the only thing that truly annoyed me was the way that Trance mode would pop up when it came, and left at the end of the battle; there was no way to work the meter strategically. That's just a personal gripe, though.

I guess I'd say that I couldn't love Final Fantasy IX, but I definitely didn't mind it. It was a fun game for a while, that got really tedious and unnecessary at the end. Some really cool characters and a fun first half made it a worthy addition to the series, in my opinion.

Posted by: Elena99 30th January 2004 16:17
I really enjoyed FFIX. While I was playing it, I couldn't see any problems, and I can't see very many now.

To me, it was fun, though serious when it needed to be, had an interesting plot that moved at a good pace, and had interesting sidequests (like the coins). I liked the way the towns looked, and how the characters were, and the overall feel of the game was great.

Looking back, though, I know I had trouble with it at certain parts, like that first cave you go in. I didn't level up a lot before, and the enemies killed me, so I ended up having to spend time leveling up. I also was frustrated a few times visually; it was nowhere near as bad as FF7 could be on this aspect, but sometimes I couldn't see where in the graphics I was supposed to move my character to, to touch or activate something.

My favourite characters were Zidane, Garnet, Vivi and Freya. Now I can see someone not liking the game if you happen to not like 1 or more of these characters, as they're all fairly important to the story.

I also really loved the music. So much that I actually bought the soundtrack for it, and still listen to it from time to time.

Posted by: Del S 30th January 2004 16:41
Quote (Ramza_HolyKnight @ 30th January 2004 01:25)
I think FFIX was a really great game. Unfortunately, a lot of my friends disagree saying that the graphics were too cartoonish and made the game more childish.

Aye, ma bum it did. FFIX wasn't childish in any way. And like graphics matter.

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I didn't think the graphics got in the way at all, once the story gets underway the graphics represent the characters well. It is after all, a "Fantasy".

And thats exactly the way it should be. And im still struggling to see how exactly the graphics were cartoony in comparison to FF7's Veitnam flashback style graphics.

Anyway...
Zidane. He looks like a monkey... but unlike Squall, wasnt a wee nyaff. Unlike Tedious, wasnt a total and utter bore. And Unlike cloud, wasnt really a looney. So he would lose out in a four way fight, but for non-annoyance, he wins.

I personally think Zidane, Vivi, Garnet, Steiner and Co. were far better characters than most of 8 and 4's.

IX also ahd so many cool FMV's, in comaprison to 7 and 8. while in 9 you had
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The Chase sequence early on where stiener makes the most miscalutlated swing ever, The chase from Black Waltz 3 goign to Lindblum, Odin wasting cleyra, Atmos take out the industrial sector, Bahamut trash the Alexandrian navy and later , Alexandria.

8 only managed 2 cool-ish FMV's
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The bit where quistis Machineguns the robot during the exam and the sequence where the Ragnarok attacks and enters the lunatic pandora.


And 7 again only had a couple
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That bit involving a sword and a cetra, the attack on Junon by Weapon, and the ending.



In fact, its the only FF that doesn't have machine guns that i think couldnt use em!

Posted by: Gears 31st January 2004 01:42
I really like FFIX, more than any of the other PSX ones (besides Tactics.) Looking back on it, I don't think I really like the story more than the others, but it moves more consistently. That is, there's no real slow parts like in FFVII and VIII, and no huge plot holes, either. And I agree with Del about the FMVs.

The problems with the game all lie in the battle system. In particular the trance problems SM mentioned, and the queue system is incredibly annoying, especially when fighting an enemy that uses burn attacks on you. Overall though, the story and characters (especially Vivi) are good enough to make it a pretty good game.

Posted by: BlazeMacLeod of the clan MacLeod 31st January 2004 05:44
I loved the opening sequence FMV to FFVIII.

As far as FFIX goes, I hated:
the tail on the main guy
the rat chick who made me want to vomit
the card game which made no sense
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Garnet's new retarded default name of "Dagger"
and Garnet cutting her hair off.


Other than that, I thought the game was pretty awesome, especially the ability learning from armor, weapons, ect.

Posted by: DisasterChild8 31st January 2004 06:18
out of the 11 main FFs 9 is definetly in the top 5. I really don't remmber too much about the sotry line except that
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you are fighting some mist that comes out of the ifa (sic) tree, in the end u find out that zidane was sent here to destroy the planet, and that the very last sequence wher you think zidanes dead, but then you find out hes alive.


i remember certain locations and events through out the game, just not too sure why they were there.

as for the characters, ViVi made the game IMO and zidane could kick cloud and squalls butt any day on the personality level, and every other ccharacter was really well done IMO. Especially Amarant, who t me was like a throwback to Shadow heart.gif heart.gif heart.gif...

Posted by: Max 1st February 2004 03:17
I personnaly didnt like it. I thought it was to childish(not graphic wise, I dont care for that). Its was to easy, in a sense. Leveling up was barely necessary. The first time I beat it I had no troubles and I was just above level 50. The ability system wasnt that bad, but it was very easy to learn new things. Thus making you progress thruw the game quickly without leveling up. The story wasnt complicated, it was like a straight line. Most of the time you wouldnt have to think about anything, the characters would just say it.

To easy.

Posted by: The_Pink_Nu1 1st February 2004 03:59
Final Fantasy IX is my favorite FF game, and for plenty of reasons. First, the fun factor. It was by far THE most fun FF game, IMO. The card game, the coins, and all of the other sidequests/mini-games in FFIX were great. I especially found a LOT of satisfaction hearing the chocobo say "KWE-EEHHH!!!" when you've finally dug something up.

Aside from the fun, I thought the story was the best of all FF games, it never really went too slow for me. And it all sums up into the best FF ending ever...whew, I don't think I've ever felt so satisfied in beating a game in my life, except maybe old SNES game...

The graphics too, were excellent. The FMVs were also great, but I still liked VIII's just as much. The "kiddy" look didn't bother me, in fact it gave it more of a "Fantasy" feel. Zidane's tail didn't bother me in the least either, and I'm not a DBZ fan.

As for the characters, they were one of the most memorable casts ever (Quina excepted...). The ending nearly brought a tear to my eye.

As far as music, it's second only to FFVI. "The Place I'll Return to Someday", "Vamo alla Flamenco", "Loss of Me", "Protecting My Devotion", and "You're Not Alone" particulary stood out in my mind.

The battle system, while perhaps lacking in innovation, I was still fine with. The only thing that sucked was, if you wanted to uberize your characters, you'd have to stick them on obsolete equipment till they finally learned that ability. I did love the Synthesis shops though.

FFIX = thumbup.gif

Posted by: BGrugby 1st February 2004 04:19
I really enjoyed FFIX for many reasons. First it was a nice change to have all the different types of characters in a game. Before you may have one character that was non-human like Mog or Red XIII. With FFIX it was more like the majority were non-human which was cool, even the main character was not a human. The mini-games were cool to especially Chocobo Hunting and Friendly Monsters. Finally the I loved how they started to used the whole crystals thing in the story like the old FF games and the development of Zidane throughout the game was great.
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My favorite part of the game is when Zidane snaps after Garland tortured him and he blew off all his comrades until Dagger saves him

Posted by: Jlombardi13 1st February 2004 05:20
I love FFIX. This game is downright fun. The atmosphere of the game is what really does it for me - the lively towns, the humour, the great music, the wonderful characters. FFIX has to be my favorite PS Final Fantasy.

Posted by: RacistAgainstChocobos 3rd February 2004 03:43
final fantasy IX is my favorite final fantasy also and for many reasons ill tell them to you.

1. Garnet
2. No Junction
3. Kuja's main theme song
4. Kuja's coolness (not the thong)
5. Bahamauts graphics
6. Getting all the chocographs only to find out you have to break mountainsides
7. Delivering mail for kupos
8. Kupos
9. Eiko
10. Amarants nomercy looks like Ryu's Hadou Ken which is cool
11. teaching everyone auto haste and auto life
12. training on iron giants
13. Synsthesis also
14. Super cool graphics
15. The ending made me wanna cry because it was so emotional and i just felt so connected to the story and i was just so glad it ended the way it ended!!!

Awesome games cant think of all the reasons ill go play it and bring you some more reasons!!! AWESOME GAME

Posted by: Drake 9th February 2004 11:21
They are gonna do it in FFXII too you know, I saw a japanese commercial

*sob* why square why!!!

Posted by: Figaro 9th February 2004 14:36
I just recently started playing FFIX, and it's really a very fun game. The graphics are pretty good, methinks. Cartoonish, but awesome nonetheless.

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VERY nice FMV sequences. I think the character I've connected most with so far is Zidane, and then probably Vivi.

Posted by: RacistAgainstChocobos 10th February 2004 05:57
For me i loved Garnet from the very first sight she is sensitive yet playful. Serious yet funny. She's Great at first she kind of though Zidane was a bad good for nothing person but later she really loved him and THE GREATEST ENDING EVER was this FF. I love Garnet!!!

Posted by: l)arkShadow 14th February 2004 20:42
I HATED FFIX
it sucked for me. the only good character was vivi...

all the other ones sucked, especially zidane. I HATE THEM ALL!!!

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 14th February 2004 21:35
I've never played FFIX myself, but I did find this commentary online, which also relates to several other FFs:

http://web.mit.edu/chads/www/gamerev/FFSeries.html

EDIT: Geez, with all these comments, I'm starting to feel I want to play this game just to find out about it.

Posted by: Dark Paladin 15th February 2004 16:44
Quote (Glenn's Article)
OK characters with little development (Steiner, Vivi,)

That's why you play past Disc One.
Don't trust the article Glenn. It basically says FFVI+ are identical, and just because of the way he decided to play.

Posted by: Figaro 15th February 2004 18:02
One of my favorite parts of this game: Zidane's Theme. Uematsu captured his character perfectly in this song, IMO.
http://www.ffshrine.org/ff9/ff9/ff9-01-31-zidane%27s_theme.mid
Yeah... excellent....

Posted by: RacistAgainstChocobos 18th February 2004 05:12
my favorite part was when Kuja rode away on his silver dragon! He looks awesome dont like some of his "clothes" but he is just such a cool character and his music is way better than Zidanes theme.. Well for me it is...

Doesnt it sort of sound like "the beauty and the beast" theme song when she goes into the castle... well to me it does...

Posted by: Red Mages Kick 18th February 2004 22:41
stilll havent played the game. i got a fautly disk or something like that and they dont sell it anymore.

Posted by: therandyrhoads 20th February 2004 06:13
this is probably tied with 7 as my second favorite FF. although its not my favorite, i think i had more fun playing this one than any of the others, and for me, this ended final fantasy. i completely deny the existence of the three made after it, and i think square should have stopped after this one, cuz this was a masterpiece in my mind.

i loved how it had references to the final fantasy games before it, but still kept its originality, i think the characters are great, though im particularly a quina fan because s/he goes so underappreciated, but i mean come on quina rocks (catches frogs and does completely random damage, how can you not like that?). the chocograph quest is probably the most enjoyable side quest ever, and i find myself starting a new file simply so i can do that. the graphics were probably the best done, and although the world map wasnt quite as intricate as 6 or 7, it still had nice effects like the sun setting over the lost continent, constant night over treno, and i always loved the mist over the mist continent in the beginning of the game.

9 doesnt quite have the replay value as some of the others for some reason, but i think the game is definitely worth a play for anyone who hasnt, i think this game has something for everyone in it.

Posted by: GamblingCat 25th February 2004 23:08
Quote (Figaro @ 15th February 2004 13:02)
One of my favorite parts of this game: Zidane's Theme. Uematsu captured his character perfectly in this song, IMO.
http://www.ffshrine.org/ff9/ff9/ff9-01-31-zidane%27s_theme.mid
Yeah... excellent....

Oh you mean when you are in Garland's Castle after Vivi and Eiko wake him up?

Oh and FFIX is one of my two favorite FF's (FFX is the other)
There was a good cast of characters, The character design is the best out of all the FFs (See the Art of FFIX)

It is an awesome game and had some pretty darn good cinemas too (When you get into memoria at the begining of Disc 4).

And there could be a FFIX-2 due to what the Final Boss says to you when you beat the game.


FFIX had some good music, the best version of the prelude, Dark Messinger, the final boss theme, and the Hunt contest theme. (When you kill monsters 4 points)

Posted by: Griever_128 25th February 2004 23:41
Of the 3D Final Fantasies, this is my favorite. Most of the reasons that make me
like this game have been stated, and the song when you are in Garland's Castle after Vivi and Eiko wake Zidane up, which I think is called You are not alone, is my
second best song after the Main Theme from FF4, which is the one from the world
map.

Posted by: Iggy 26th February 2004 17:06
Shouldn't most of these be in spoiler tags? I won't quote any spoilers but I'll just hope they go back and edit their posts. That's the worst thing that anyone can do for a gamer...ugh... dry.gif

Posted by: GamblingCat 26th February 2004 20:36
Quote (Iggy @ 26th February 2004 12:06)
Shouldn't most of these be in spoiler tags? I won't quote any spoilers but I'll just hope they go back and edit their posts. That's the worst thing that anyone can do for a gamer...ugh... dry.gif

Actually Iggy, I am still in need of help 4 figuring out spoilers!

Posted by: Iggy 26th February 2004 21:03
Quote (GamblingCat @ 26th February 2004 15:36)
Quote (Iggy @ 26th February 2004 12:06)
Shouldn't most of these be in spoiler tags? I won't quote any spoilers but I'll just hope they go back and edit their posts. That's the worst thing that anyone can do for a gamer...ugh...  dry.gif

Actually Iggy, I am still in need of help 4 figuring out spoilers!

When you're typing your post, there are a few buttons just above where you type your text. Press SPOILER once, then type the spoiler then press it again to close the spoiler tag.

Posted by: Narratorway 26th February 2004 23:01
I fell in love with this game within minutes of playing it. I knew it was gonna be one my favorite FF's right off'n the bat and I was right. It's second only to VI. I attribute this to two factors, it's characters and it's atmosphere. To sum it up in a word, it's just an incredibly charming game. It's really something to be impressed with when ya think about it. Here's a game that on the surface just sounds tacky and painfully sweet. All the characters are stereotypes to the extreme and on the surface have barely two demensions. Yet the execution results in likable characters that you really feel for and an atmosphere of innocent nostalgia. It works despite itself.

Posted by: GamblingCat 11th March 2004 22:06
After playing FFIX for a while I thought it was the best FF, even though it was, at the time the 2nd FF I had played it is such a great game. Perfection

Posted by: Cloud_Strife510 12th March 2004 03:39
I really liked FFIX the only problem was that they were too cartoony
it is kind of sad how such a simple misinterpretaion of what the buyer wants can bring down a game's level of fun to some people

*its too bad that i havent been able to finish the game, since my disk four freezes
right as you leave black mage village

Posted by: GamblingCat 12th March 2004 22:41
Quote (Cloud_Strife510 @ 11th March 2004 22:39)
I really liked FFIX the only problem was that they were too cartoony

Toocartony. WRONG! FFIX had AWESOME GRAPHICS! Don't Complain.

Posted by: Strife543 16th March 2004 03:47
Only one word can discribe the best part of this game: Vivi! I had only recently bought FFIX after getting tired of ppl telling me different things. It's good, it sucks, it's good... You get the picture. So i decided to try it out, but i had known so much bout Vivi before i started as soon as i saw him i was like "Vivi!!!" (Seriously, lol) I haven't gotten that far into the game however, my playstation 1 (Yes i know, no playstation 2 = i suck) is really old and needs to be clean so on one of the movie scenes it freezes. Anyways from what i can tell about what i've played so far, this game kicks ass! A definate play if u haven't already.

Posted by: Pandabear78 24th March 2004 07:42
I found FF9 intriguing because Zidane nicely breaks the mold of stoic protagonists like Cecil, Cloud, and Squall (Tidus and Terra were more whiney than stoic, although the latter had far more realistic motivation to be whiney IMO). The general theme of the game seems to be the rather pedestrian "absolute power corrupts absolutely," but well-executed.

I do have a major gripe about this though:
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Necro feels like he/she/it was chucked in just so you'd have one more thing to fight. His attachment to the rest of the story seems to be nothing more than some sparse hand-waving, and bad hand-waving at that.


PB78

Posted by: Sephiroth 3rd April 2004 20:11
I think your friends are graphic wh**es...which means they have no sense of good game play,they simply relly on graphics to make a good game...if graphics actually were so important then why in the world was FF Tactics so popular...talk about cartoonish graphics,but it was still a great game and also,why was Fire Emblem so popular...I mean it was made for the game boy advance so the graphis were obviously not much better if any better than the SNES...obviously your friends just have a short attention span since they can't seem to know a good story line.Are they the "if the graphics suck then I don't even want to play the story line cus it'll suck too" type ppl? I don't think you should worry about their opinion...in my opinion FF IX was better than VIII...not that that's saying much but I still didn't think it was all that bad,the only thing I hated about it was the fact that if you didn't learn a skill of of your weapon or armor you had to keep crappy armor or weapon until you did...if you didn't keep the armor till you maxed out the skill you lost the skill when you unequiped....other than that I liked it and the graphics were fine.

Posted by: Zeil 5th April 2004 21:15
I liked the game it is an awsome game.
For a while I couldn't stop taking about it for the longest time

Posted by: Angry_Lizard 5th April 2004 21:31
ffix is one of my favs, but my siblings ruined my cd and playstation, so i cant play it, theres 2 things that got my beef in the game though, u really had to make sure u got those sidequests at the right time, because alot of them were only available during a single event, i also hated that you had to get to excalibur2 within 12 hours. this made the game impossible to do everything

Posted by: Zeil 6th April 2004 06:07
It was a good game but i would really like to know why Zidain has a tail?

Posted by: GamblingCat 6th April 2004 19:52
Good question, give squenix an e-mail and ask them, that is all I gotta say. I really am not sure why he has a tail.

Posted by: Angry_Lizard 6th April 2004 21:55
its just how garland made them i geuss, or maybe they are replicas of ancient people from the other world

Posted by: FallingHeart 23rd April 2004 03:56
FFIX = great+good
I loved the music (Freya/ You are not alone espesially!)
the graphics= good (Doesn't really matter)
The story was GREAT! (not as good as VII's)

Worth the $20.00 it is now

Posted by: changeofheart 23rd April 2004 04:26
i disager it has no plot

Posted by: Dark Paladin 24th April 2004 01:56
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i disager it has no plot

Whether you like or dislike the game is your opinion. But to say that a PSX-generation RPG is completely absent of a plot is absurd. Even FFI had a plot, no matter how simplistic. Heck, even the first Mario and Bad Dudes, with its insane one, had plots.

Posted by: Hanyou 24th April 2004 07:05
I wasn't a bad enough dude to save the president... sad.gif

FFIX is very very well done in my opinion. Many of the newer players to the series really dislike it, and I can understand that. I think IX was made for the people that had been with the series before VII. The settings, personalities, and plot are kind of a mesh of I-VI. Zidane was good protagonist I thought, and Panda is right, it was a nice refreshing break from the depressed main character. Vivi, as most of you probably know, is my favorite FF character of all time. Dagger/Garnet was also done very well, her journey to find herself actually made me care about her. Each character just oozed(that's right oozed) with personality.

The story was cool, not weighed down with depressing emotions, but was generally light-hearted through out. I honestly enjoyed it. They bit with Cid being an oglop was hilarious to me, and the reason why was even better.

The graphics were perfect for the feel of the game. Lifelike characters from VIII would not have fit with this story, and VII was a bit too anime for it as well. I don't relly care about graphics, but I think IX's complimented the game perfectly.

With the exception of IV, this is my favorite FF(big surprise, eh?). I recommend it to everyone who asks me about FF.

Posted by: GamblingCat 21st May 2004 22:09
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I think IX was made for the people that had been with the series before VII.

I kinda of disagge, because FFIX was the second FF I woned, and the 1st one was 8. but I agree on how it was well done thumbup.gif

Posted by: Hanyou 21st May 2004 23:13
I'm talking about the feel of the game. VII and VIII had a technologically advanced civilization, the previous games in the series did not. IX appeared to bet set more in the timeframe of FFIV...well, maybe a a couple decades after it.

Posted by: SHAPESHIFTER666 27th May 2004 20:52
I like the game i dont think it matters bout the graphics matter if the games good i think that all that matters I DONT know if that make since lol

Posted by: Atma 31st May 2004 02:16
I like FFIX better than all these new-fangled FF games they're coming out with. I liked the old school feel with the new school graphics.

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