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Posted: 12th July 2012 23:26

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It's hard to escape the silliness of cosplay in today's world of gaming and entertainment, this is a proven fact. You can head out to a convention if only to hear your favorite author give a panel without someone in costume running past you. Let's be honest, some of these people take cosplay too far and can make a lot of people nervous very quickly, but there are those of us who enjoy it on a quieter note.

Even if you're crazy for it, enjoy it or like to look at the pictures; let's talk about it! If you're working on something from anything in general, tell us about it or link us to a picture (as long as it is appropriate per site rulings). Tell us what you would cosplay if you had the time or the money or even the will to do so. Tell us how much work you would put into it if you would make a costume. If you have a picture of a cosplay of your favorite character that you really like, share it with us.

I for one would really like to hear your thoughts on the subject and see what you can come up with. : )

In my case of silliness I am currently working on cosplays for Final Fantasy VI. I will be cosplaying a sprite version of Setzer Gabbiani at an upcoming convention and am starting on Locke Cole for the same shindig.

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Posted: 13th July 2012 11:27

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Personally, just in my usual getup I look like enough like a some sort of character that it would be somewhat redundant for me to dress up as anyone tongue.gif.

I did, however, thoroughly enjoy the Kefka Cosplay guy that we had a couple of topics for here back in the day.

http://www.cavesofnarshe.com/forums/ipb/in...l=kefka+cosplay

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Posted: 13th July 2012 16:10

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This Kefka makes me smile every time I see him. Someone linked me to him last year and I now have a dream of cosplaying Kefka as well. Villainy, with style. smile.gif

One of my personal favorites is here:

http://ayb.blacksuitmedia.com/wp-content/u...ra-Branford.jpg



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Posted: 13th July 2012 17:09

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I've always admired those who manage to create truly impressive cosplay costumes, and I've honestly often wished I could manage it myself.

But... I'm terrible at crafts, so would make a poor costume, and I'm too much of a perfectionist to be willing to wear a half-arsed attempt. Add to that the fact that the characters I would probably pick are either much shorter than me (Vivi), much hairier than me (Mog, Red XIII), or just much, much, too crazy, and my odds aren't good!

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Posted: 15th July 2012 17:21

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I just recently got back into it myself, I was never good at arts and crafts at all but I wanted to make costumes in general so badly that I just kind of threw my hands in the air and said 'to hell with it' and started anyway. I'm still pretty crummy at sewing but at least I learned from my re-enactment days how to make costumes last for a few cons before needing much repair. My trick to getting things done is focusing on making the major piece of costume that the character is known for and then pulling everything else I need out of my closet and customizing it from there.

I'm with you on the perfectionist ideal, Stiltzkin. I'm still afraid to take Setzer to more contests because I don't think he's good enough yet. But then, part of my problem is that I really don't like the Amano artwork for Final Fantasy (But I am a great fan of the Vampire Hunter D novels) and with the early games, no one knows who you are unless you make the Amano artwork. My biggest challenge with it now is making the personality the final touch to tell people who I am.

I really do find that the hardest part of finding someone to cosplay is that we don't have the figure, build or height to pull off the characters we want to be. My major problem is that I'm the wrong gender to cosplay all of my favorites. However, I have broken down and will soon begin work on Frog from Chrono Trigger. Chicken wire and foam, here I come! Believe it or not most of the Vivi I have seen are taller than I am, most capping 6" or taller. There's nothing like being dwarfed by an adorable black mage. smile.gif

Red XIII is an idea I'm fond of too, and there are so many different ways of doing the costume that doing a simple google image search on him can keep you occupied for an hour or more. Some of the cosplays are beyond amazing. There are fur-suits, yes, but I find the humanized versions to be more interesting.

For instance, here's one I'm quite fond of: http://www.flickr.com/photos/77458709@N00/5156847365/




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Posted: 19th July 2012 18:36

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I've never gotten to go to a con of any kind. On that score, I'm hoping my pending move back Northeast will allow me to finally go to PAX East with the rest of my coworkers next year; I'm sure I'll enjoy seeing the cosplay there.

Having not really seen any up close, I'd have to say that I appreciate it about as much as someone can who hasn't been exposed to it, mainly for the skill that's really required to piece something together that looks good. There's a reason that professional costumers for stage and screen get paid pretty well - there's genuine artistry involved in proper costuming, and if you're doing it well for things like gaming or anime costumes, which tend to be pretty crazy, you deserve some level of respect for that.

I think that the hate that some cosplayers get is because of folks stereotyping - I know, this is an obvious statement, yes. The stereotype in question is of the cosplayer who, regardless of quality of costume, gets mocked not for how they look but how they act. There are certainly some grown people out there who not only do the costume but feel that they have to be completely in character when they're in the costume, and to me, there's no real reason to be like that. Nobody thinks you have to actually act like Squall Leonhart just because you're dressed like him for a few days - you have to accept that while a gunblade battle in a public park might be fun for a bit, there are going to be people that think it's strange.

Of course, some people are going to hate on cosplayers regardless of how they comport themselves, because some people are convinced that grown-ups don't do dress-up. (One wonders how many of these people would scorn cosplayers while at the same time being titillated by the wave of slutty costumes that come out for grown women each Halloween, but that's probably a tangent.) Live and let live, in that case, in both directions, I guess.

I'm being a bit stream-of-consciousness here, I realize, so I'm sure I'm not exactly making any salient points. I'll stand by what I said in the other thread, though - while I can't see any future in which I would cosplay myself, I certainly wouldn't have anything against my daughter wanting to cosplay when she gets older. I also will still continue to reserve the right to roll my eyes not at cosplayers who act like idiots while they're dressed up. smile.gif

Oh, and speaking of my daughter and costumes, has anyone ever seen anything like a plain white painter's jumpsuit in baby sizes?

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Posted: 24th July 2012 22:31

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I've never gotten to go to a con of any kind. On that score, I'm hoping my pending move back Northeast will allow me to finally go to PAX East with the rest of my coworkers next year; I'm sure I'll enjoy seeing the cosplay there.

Have fun with all the League of Losers cosplayers there, haha. Don't forget to take lots of pix, please!

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Nobody thinks you have to actually act like Squall Leonhart just because you're dressed like him for a few days -


To my thinking, there wouldn't be much acting there. Just stand around and say "whatever" to anyone who talks to you. In examples like the Kefka cosplayer, the fact that he acts like the guy makes it all that much better. It's having an OFF-switch that's important, to my way of thinking. Actually, some actors have this problem. The whole article is good, but scroll to the part where it talks about Daniel Day Lewis.

it isn't acting like the character that's necessarily the problem, it's picking a character who has enough of a personality that acting like them is worthwhile. It's a sad shame that most Square heroes, and even a lot of the villains, have the characterization and personality of bricks (I'm looking at you Sephiroth). Even if they do have some meat and bones on the skeletons of their personalities, the fact of the matter is, most of them just come off as regular people. The argument could be made for Squall that he's just an anti-social emo with a gunblade, and I fail to see how it would be fun to pretend to be a kid that everyone beat up in highschool. This, I think, is why the Kefka guy hit gold, is Kefka was such a vibrant, and off-beat figure with a distinct way of acting and talking. Essentially, his chaotic-evil nature lends a lot to his character.

So far as original posters Setzer getup goes, just remember a few great lines, like: "The best thing in life is being free of obligation...otherwise you lose your ability to gamble.". Personally, I've always taken that one to heart as a good piece of wisdom biggrin.gif . Also, so far as acting like characters goes, a Frog cosplay, or even an Ayla, would fall into that same category of character as Kefka, where acting like the character would add volumes to the work. Crono might be fun too, but you would have the same issue with him as you do with Link, where your acting comes down to simply not talking. Still, I can't say I wouldn't be delighted to run into a Crono/Link, who when I talk to them doesn't speak, and just nods, or shakes their head.

Again, it's shutting off the character, hopefully before the flashing lights and sirens are called in, that really strikes me as important there, haha wink.gif . Also, yeah, you're gonna look like a weirdo to most of the normal population, but if that was an issue, I suppose you wouldn't be cosplaying in the first place, eh? tongue.gif

PS: I would be so pumped to run into a cosplaying Squall and Seifer having a gunblade duel in the park.

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Y'know.. If I had to dress for a halloween, or related themed party something I usually think of it as 'fancy dress' and avoid like the plague.

However if I had some event to attend, It wouldn't take much convincing for me to attempt a cosplay of Hazama:

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I think I could pull it off, I'm similarly weedy.. happy.gif

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Posted: 10th November 2012 16:57

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I can't say that I know the character but his clothing is certainly cool. I would have too much fun making the armor on his shoes and the coat would be a blast to design plus the added fact that the finished product would be great for actual use beyond the costume. It would be great for rain and snow. And....look awesome on a windy day. >: 3

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ahaha oh man you're right... one could walk around garbed like that, without drawing too much attention. This is starting to sound like a very good idea.

how would you do it anyway, would you buy a similar looking coat and then..add to it?

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Buying and modifying would be cheaper to be honest, that way you don't have to scour the internet for jacket material and pay more than twenty dollars a yard. The fabric if you could find it would probably be very difficult to work with considering the weight and possibly the 'rain slicked' texture they put into the fabric to protect it. The hard part is that the slicker that they put into the fabric s part of what gives the coat it's shape. I imagine it would be like trying to sew bat or pterodactyl wings together. You can pick up a nice long coat during the after christmas and early spring sales and modify it from there. This would give you exactly what you want and have it still be functional out in everyday life.



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I see. Uh oh.. I'm reminded of the time I was sewing a protest banner and managed to insert the big end of a needle into my thumb.. pinch.gif

but yes, if I ever get around to doing this, may I bother you with a desperate flood of PMs asking for advice?

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Posted: 11th November 2012 15:49

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Sure thing! I'll help as much as I can. :3
I don't know anyone who hasn't put the needle through their finger. It's got to be some kind of right of passage. >.<;

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All I'm saying is, the makeup on that would be fuuuuuun heart.gif

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Posted: 11th November 2012 19:46

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Relm you are amazing with make up. Your advice saved my cosplay of Terra from looking washed out if not ghastly. I'm waiting for the next convention so I can use your scar design on Setzer. I'd love to see what you would do for Hazama.

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Haha.. oh, hadn't considered that. My version would have no makeup, I can't see the point as I refuse to shave =p

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Don't worry; I saw a perfectly competent Sailor Mars with glasses at AnimeUSA a few days ago.

I've never really liked cosplay that much. At first, I felt like it all sucked, in fact. It took me a while to realize that the reason I had that opinion was because the cosplayers really rarely looked or (perhaps more importantly) acted the part in a convincing way. And I just really don't like comedic anime characters much, yet they're inevitably rather popular.

Going to a couple cons has warmed me up a bit more; cosplayers still often don't look the part, but I've begun to appreciate the effort put into the costumes.

I'm unlikely to do any cosplaying myself--I sometimes joke that I could cosplay as Shinji Ikari by wearing a white buttoned shirt and black trousers--but I'm not bothered by it either.

One of my friends--we went to AUSA together--actually jumped on the cosplaying bandwagon from attending just one convention. He and another friend have now proposed that I get myself a Bass (from Mega Man) helmet so we can do a Mega Man themed trio next year (one of them has a Mega Man helmet and one of them has a Proto Man helmet). Oh my...

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So I was at AUSA.

There were tons of Homestuck cosplayers. That friend, who is a Homestuck fan, was entertained. I was slightly annoyed. And then there were some rumblings (not from me, actually) about whether it was a good thing that at least 30 to 40 percent of the cosplayers (including Homestuck people) were non-anime/gaming characters. But whatever.

On the other hand, I was disappointed that there was but one lone Nanoha series cosplayer--one Fate Testarossa (TV first/second season version, in case you're wondering).

There was a also a Cure Black, and I observed that she was not with Cure White and I wondered how she transformed.

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I finally got around to finishing up the heaping mound of work I had left on my Terra Branford cosplay and took it out to a convention at one of the local universities.

http://www.cosplay.com/costume/452923/

My husband and I are slowing getting back onto the convention 'circuit' and have come to find that the larger events are losing their appeal. I am certain that part of this is due to the ever growing amount of Homestuck cosplayers. I don't mind the comic and its fans, but the overwhelming amounts of grotesque grey body paint and all around rudeness of the troll cosplayers (this is a character trait, most of the fans of the comic I have met are wonderful people when you can get them out of character) we're starting to steer clear of them and hope the fad blows over soon. At this point, I would gladly go back to the tidal wave of Naruto cosplayers of five years ago than get caught up in this mess again.

The World Cosplay Summit finals are coming up soon though so keep an eye out for some truly amazing work hitting the internet in the coming months. I believe the actual contest is being held in Tokyo so the competition to get there is going to be intense and the artistry magnificent.

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My dear, you make a fantastic Terra.

But what is homestuck and why are people dressing as such? Are you saying that annoying people is part of the act?

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Many thanks, Blinge! We're working on Schala and Magus from Chrono Trigger next.

Homestuck is a web comic that has taken the internet by storm. It's animated and drawn using the ms paint program and features music composed by the writer and many of the fans and is surprisingly well done. The story is amazing for the first few acts but then suddenly goes off into the proverbial left field and loses all sense of continuity or even good storyline. The most commonly cosplayed characters are members of a race of Trolls from another planet that harass the human main characters. And in being Trolls, they are...well...internet trolls in the modern understanding. They are rude, obnoxious and downright intolerable. I have to say, though, they do have some hilarious moments.

The fandom consists mostly of screaming, excited fangirls who will not stop running around trying to put their favorite pairings together or end up acting to deeply in character that they are painful to be around, especially when cosplaying the trolls. Trust me, they're worse than Naruto and Hetalia fangirls, and that's hard. Granted, I know several of the fans and they are all wonderful people, but when in character, I cannot stand to be around them.

The trolls are a rainbow horned, grey skinned race that live their lives in an insect type hive and are raised by alien monsters rather than parents, thus resulting in most of them ending up as sociopaths. The problem with the cosplay is that, though often well done, it is very grotesque to look at considering the gobs of grey paint the cosplayers cover themselves with.

I highly suggest the first three acts of the comic for reading as the writer's plot is incredible until he takes that previously mentioned trip out to left field.

It can be found at mspaintadventures.com and is updated several times a day. Get comfortable though as it is incredibly long.


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That Terra costume looks awesome!

I went to the St. Louis Comic Con last month. It was my first time going to any sort of comic/cosplay convention, and I had a great time.

Here are some of my favorite pics from the convention:
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And here's me and my son with Lou Ferrigno:
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Fantastic pictures! Thank you for sharing them with us. You got my husband and I to 'nerd-out' over all of them especially over the one of you and your son. Kid Spiderman wins every time.

I'm glad you enjoyed the con. Did you go for just one day or all three? I favor one day trips myself, usually on the Saturday of the con. That's when all the kids come out for the events and the major cosplayers bring out their work. There's nothing better than seeing Sailor Moon and Batman standing side by side and swamped with kids. What did your little one think of it?

Also, I'm glad you liked the Terra cosplay, sometime in the interim between major cons, we want to revamp a bit and do a World of Ruin version with battered costumes, bruises and weapons for a change. Granted, between now and then we're working on Chrono Trigger.


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I was only able to go that Sunday, but my son loved it. happy.gif
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Here's a question for everyone:

If you were to head out to a local convention or even take the plunge and head into one of the nationally known cons ( Akon, Comic-Con, ACEN etc) which video game / any media characters would you like to see walking around? There are some fans out there that have managed to make amazing things out of craft foam and pvc pipe, so just about anything is possible.

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Neo Exdeath.

He's at every convention already, given most of them have a tree somewhere near-by tongue.gif

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And here's me and my son with Lou Ferrigno:

Wish I had a Lou Ferrigno...

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Posted: 16th May 2013 11:13

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Here's a question for everyone:

If you were to head out to a local convention or even take the plunge and head into one of the nationally known cons ( Akon, Comic-Con, ACEN etc) which video game / any media characters would you like to see walking around? There are some fans out there that have managed to make amazing things out of craft foam and pvc pipe, so just about anything is possible.

Any thoughts?

I guess maybe I'm just too mainstream, but there aren't really that many characters that I can think of that I haven't seen someone do in photos by now. I would say that I have never seen anything I can recall from Final Fantasy Tactics, and a Ramza/Alma pair would be pretty neat (if a little generic by cosplay standards).

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Posted: 16th May 2013 17:45

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Neo Exdeath.

He's at every convention already, given most of them have a tree somewhere near-by tongue.gif

NEO. exdeath.

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Posted: 27th May 2013 11:41

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The fandom consists mostly of screaming, excited fangirls who will not stop running around trying to put their favorite pairings together or end up acting to deeply in character that they are painful to be around, especially when cosplaying the trolls.

Double post to inform you that I encountered some of these trolls yesterday!

I went to the 'MCM' London Comic Con with a couple of buds, it was rather short notice so i'm afraid I didn't cosplay myself, I did see at least 3 Hazamas walking around though. If I do make an effort to dress up next time I might have to pick something more unique. I'm still astounded at how many cosplayers there were, at least half of the attendees were in character.

Saw a huge group of teens and young adults sat in a circle outside, playing party games and making noise, all of them in (mostly bad) costumes. My friend informed me that these were Homestuck cosplayers happy.gif there was some sort of chant going on?!

Saw an Altair (Assassin's Creed) girl blending with the crowd, I stole the apple of Eden off her, ran away and she assassinated me with her hidden blade.. good stuff.

Other highlights? A Lightning and Serah, Light was so convincing I er, couldn't stop gawping..

Edit: yeah, stupid to double post, i've messaged neal about getting this removed.

This post has been edited by Blinge Odonata on 27th May 2013 14:41

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