Posted: 5th October 2002 04:53
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I'm not talking about the goofy-ass optional bosses that take three hours and insane levels to beat, that's not the topic. I just want to know about the boss you beat to get the ending. Write-in votes are accepted, since there's only ten choices.
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Post #3145
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Posted: 5th October 2002 06:21
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Black Waltz Posts: 869 Joined: 28/9/2002 Awards: |
the dude in ff9 was necron most of them were easy in fact the only person i had considerable trouble with was Flammie the "Mana Beast" because i had to use the sword and i had had randy use the spear and axe the entire game heh heh heh.... so his skill tech with the sword was 1 i had a whole lotta trouble, i had relied on the sprite (equipped with the sword) and combo magic the ENTIRE GAME almost Randy was my man for taking out smaller enemies... Pretty stupid huh?
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Posted: 5th October 2002 14:35
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Out of these choices, it was probably Necron. Though he wasn't impossibly difficult, he did have a few nasty attacks and status attack spells. But as long as you had the right combination of characters and high levels, he wasn't too tough.
I might have voted Giygas, but he's easy if you keep using a combination of PSI Special and Starstorm, and if you know the trick to beating his final form instantly. (Hint: It has something to do with Paula's Prayer skill.) Chaos was a runner-up, too, but he wasn't all that bad, if you had the right party. If there was an "other" category, I would've voted for Phantasy Star's Dark Force. Now he was insanely hard, in all of his multiple game reincarnations. Any baddie who can face a hero packing Megid has got to be a serious contender. -------------------- "I always have a quotation for everything - it saves original thinking." ~Dorothy L. Sayers "The truly remarkable thing about television is that it allows several million people to laugh at the same joke and still feel lonely." ~T.S. Eliot "Defeat is not defeat unless accepted as reality - in your own mind!" ~ Bruce Lee |
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Post #3155
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Posted: 5th October 2002 15:32
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the first time through playing these games, the hardest guy i faced was One-Winged Sephiroth [i believe he was called Siefer Sephiroth or something like it] The first time through, i was weak. I didn't have KotR or Omnislash with me [not that i'd use them anyway] Sephy using Pale Horse or Shadow Flare was enough to completely kill one of my guys. Of course, Supernova is a deadly one. Especially since it casts random status effects as well as nearly kill you. [how the hell can a supernova cause mute, berserk, AND confuse?!] Anyway, this was a really long and difficult battle for me. I think it took me an hour and a half to kill him [one battle... not dying and redoing it]
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Post #3159
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Posted: 5th October 2002 16:16
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SOLDIER Posts: 810 Joined: 18/1/2002 Awards: |
I chose Zeromous, I can't remember how many tried it took me to finally beat him... I WOULD HAVE changed my mind if you put Mr. Ex-Death on there (FFV), though!
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Post #3162
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Posted: 5th October 2002 17:00
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Engineer
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Lavos. Besides the fact that I haven't played most of the other games, he cleaned my clock the first time through. Those punches HURT.
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Posted: 5th October 2002 22:10
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Engineer Posts: 351 Joined: 11/9/2002 Awards: |
The boss from Secret of Mana, It's name was The Mana Beast
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Post #3168
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Posted: 5th October 2002 22:43
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Crusader Posts: 1,488 Joined: 16/3/2001 Awards: |
Well, I couldn't choose, so I just nulled my vote. Typical Kappa.
Anyway, I usually find final bosses not very difficult. If anything, butt easy. Kefka? Please. First of all, you have 13 characters to burn. And even so I didn't even lose one because I just morphed Terra to use Ultima to the extreme. Butt easy. Sephiroth? Yeah right. Can you say "Knights of the Round"? I know you can! (By the way, I think the two forms were "Safe Sephiroth" and "Bizzaro Sephiroth" or something along those lines.) FFX's Boss? If you mean
then you have to be kidding me. Cast Reflect and he's casting Giga-Graviton on himself! Lavos was easy because on his last form I knew the trick. Yepperz. Like SM, I used the tricky-de-doo with Giygas, so he was a piece of cake. Overall Earthbound is pretty challenging though. Zeromus? From what I heard, he's the hardest. But you know me, I didn't have the balls to get that far into FFIV, thus leaving him out. Otherwise, I either didn't finish the other games or don't know much about them at all. I usually level up too much anyway, so bosses don't worry me too often. You forgot the boss for FFT, though, but that doesn't matter since he was so freaking easy. -------------------- I find your lack of faith disturbing... |
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Post #3169
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Posted: 6th October 2002 00:30
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the last boss of FF8 (or should i say bosses) was hard for me, cause I kept getting bored around the third form or so. One night I got fed up, put on a pot of coffee, and poped in a george carlin CD, and went the distance.
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Posted: 6th October 2002 03:18
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No, I meant the one before him.
He's really the final boss, I don't think you can even lose against the other guy. I didn't include Ex-death (FFV), Ultemecia (FFVIII) or FFT's final boss cause they were all pretty easy, and I wanted some non-FF games in there. As for the name mess-ups, I apologize, it was late, I had just come back from running a REALLY bad race at Notre Dame , so I was a little tired. Anyways, I voted for Indalecio, he was the one that really inspired the topic, since I was recently punching the wall during fights with him (eventually had to go to the cave of trials and get some good stuff, and then come back and beat him.) -------------------- Hip-Hop QOTW: "Yeah, where I'ma start it at, look I'ma part of that Downtown Philly where it's realer than a heart attack It wasn't really that ill until the start of crack Now it's a body caught every night on the Almanac" "Game Theory" The Roots |
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Post #3174
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Posted: 6th October 2002 06:55
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Black Mage Posts: 219 Joined: 14/4/2001 Awards: |
Hmm.. I didn't have trouble with any of them. o_O
Necron has got to be the EASIEST boss, IN GENERAL, I've ever had the pleasure of humiliatingly smacking around. Sephy wasn't too hard either... The only thing annoying about him is that attack that took like 5 minutes to get through... -_- Lavos.. Heh. I spent the last while before I had to go to bed fighting his many... MANY, forms... But he wasn't that hard, really. I guess experience throughout the many years has made most games easier for me than for others... ...Scary. -------------------- "Hideki wa hentai! Hentai! Hideki wa hentai! Hentai! Hentai!" -Chii |
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Posted: 6th October 2002 15:53
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I voted Lavos, because he was the only one that repetively kicked my arse for a while.
Necron sucked and never should have been put into the game. What the hell was he doing there, anyway? Sephy was a joke, and I'm talking when my chars. were in the level 60's and no KOTR. Give me 10 minutes at most. Oh and his names were "Bizarro" and "Safer" (some say it was meant to be "Saviour") Sephiroth. Ultimecia posed some difficulty for me the 1st time through, it was such a LONG battle, the only thing that got me through it was Shooting Star or whatever Rinoa's break was, when i got it. FFX's was way too easy, and I didn't get any of those special weapons or anything. Even easier, if you use your aeons. Anima owns him, badly. -------------------- The clouds ran away, opened up the sky And one by one I watched every constellation die And there I was frozen, standing in my backyard Face to face, eye to eye, staring at the last star I should've known, walked all the way home To find that she wasn't here, I'm still all alone -Atmosphere "Always Coming Back Home to You" |
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Post #3177
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Posted: 6th October 2002 18:22
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I would have voted for ExDeath had he been a choice, but since he was not, I opted for Indalecio from Star Ocean 2. That guy gave me more trouble than any other boss even when my levels were well over 100...I usually had to go and get a pair or two of Bunny Shoes so I could at least try to match his speed. His Earthquake attack usually killed me. Last time I fought him, he was really easy, but that's because my people had levels over 200 and everyone had Bunny Shoes.
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Posted: 6th October 2002 22:16
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He may have been cool, but he was easy. Pretty much all of FFX was easy as soon as you got the all-powerful Auron on your side. It was all a breeze after that. But yeah, you can't lose to the real final boss, you get ReRaise automatically. There isn't really a point to try too hard. It's pretty annoying
I mean, you can't lose to them. In fact, most of the last part of the game is pointlessly easy. I didn't find Necron that hard. Besides, he was a stupid final boss. Trance Kuja should have been the final boss no question. I mean, why was Necron even there? There was no reason to fight him. If that whole part right there was a spoiler, just tell me. -------------------- I find your lack of faith disturbing... |
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Posted: 7th October 2002 01:15
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FFVIII's last string of bosses were tough for a little whiles, only because I remember one or more of them having the ability to kill off your GFs, which is very irritating. Still, Ultimicia barely put up a fight, which is sort of appropriate, considering she didn't really play much of a part in the game's story at all.
FFX's baddie wasn't really all that tough. The big guy had some HP, but his only good attack was in Overdrive, and even then you could have Tidus use the special Talk option to lower his Overdrive gauge at strategic points in the battle. Due to the structure of FFX's battle system, none of the fights could really be considered all that challenging, since you could just swap your characters in and out of battle. I really liked it, though, since it was a lot more realistic, as opposed to other games. Seriously, though, am I the only one who thought that Lavos was a complete and total joke? He didn't have any good attacks with any one of his forms. Crono and Magus smacked him around with Luminaire and Dark Matter, and Frog's superb healing meant that anything that actually did damage in double-digits was completely negated. Of course, I had levelled up to idiotically high proportions and completed all possible sidequests, so that may be why I thought he was a piece of cake. -------------------- "I always have a quotation for everything - it saves original thinking." ~Dorothy L. Sayers "The truly remarkable thing about television is that it allows several million people to laugh at the same joke and still feel lonely." ~T.S. Eliot "Defeat is not defeat unless accepted as reality - in your own mind!" ~ Bruce Lee |
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Posted: 7th October 2002 19:56
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Staff Emeritus Posts: 612 Joined: 1/1/2001 Awards: |
Indelacio, without his Limiter on. Damn near IMPOSSIBLE, even on Level 255 with Bunny Shoes.
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Post #3240
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Posted: 13th October 2002 08:23
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Black Mage
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If you know how Chaos works, then he's not too tough with a decent party. A high level one with a master, and you can smack it real fast though.
Zeromus is tough at lower levels, but at upper levels, or where Rydia and Edge can survive a hit or two, it isn't that tough at all. X-Death is difficult for two reasons. In his first form, if he spams the petrify/death attack, and if you can't counter it, you -will- lose. You will have already given off commands, and by the time you can fix it, another is dead and petrified. The other thing is that you'll probably be using Sshot by this point. The second form's death parts absorb hits as misses, and keep your damage potential down. Grand cross owns, and the same is true in FF9 and FFT. If you don't have enough firepower to knock it down fast, and don't have superb protection, then it's just luck. Most of Kefka's deadliest comes from the lower tiers. Once you get to him, the best he really has is fallen one followed up by a quick attack. Goner isn't -that- deadly, and he doesn't have enough HP. Basically, if you can survive the gauntlet and reach him, and then the tiers, you should be able to beat him. Sephiroth isn't that tough. This is mostly due to the fact that it is easier to level in this game than most of the others. The result is that he shouldn't be able to put up too much of a fight even without any of the ultimates in your arsenal. As for Ultemecia, this depends mostly on your levels and stats. If you are poorly equipped, shockwave pulsar -will- own you. But really, even shoddy teams can spam limits, call GFs to block hits, use auras and holy wars and win (or be really cheap and spam The End). I've beaten her without breaking any of the seals though. The one thing she has that others don't and need is a high HP total. FF9's is decently difficult. Like most of the others, if you haven't been leveling, it is a pretty decent challenge. However, I don't think it's the toughest, because I actually beat it on my first try, regardless of levels in the 38-42 range, no curaga, and a shoddy weapon for Zidane, though I did chug a dozen elixirs or so. Braska's Final Aeon, again, is a pretty tough force if you don't overlevel. However, unlike FF9, which decreases gains at high levels, FF10 increases gains, to account for high HP optional bosses. The result is that overleveling creates a huge differnce. Although the latter battles allow access to legendary weapons, it would be a balance issue if the bosses prior to the airship were that much weaker than the bosses after. If you actually go where the game tells you to, then the last battle is quite difficult (the sword slice can one hit kill your casters, for one thing). That 3000 life it heals every round is also much more noticible when you're only dealing 10-20K a round and your 3rd is continually healing. Lavos is reasonably difficult, but by then I usually have enough megalixirs to spam that it's not as difficult as it would be without reliable healing. The Mana Beast is tough, mostly because you can't hit it most of the time, and it seems like the sword wears off just as you need it. Note that you DO NOT NEED TO USE HIGH LEVEL SKILLS. A simple 100% hit should be hitting in the +500 range. In the time it takes for a high level to execute, you could have quickly slashed it 4 times. I've never fought Indalecio, as I never got around to getting Star Ocean 2. Giygas is interesting. It's really not tough at all. You can't kill it though, just use a strange method... that's really lame as far as I'm concerned. I would have rather just shot it up with multi bottle rockets. |
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Posted: 13th October 2002 18:39
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Staff Emeritus Posts: 375 Joined: 29/7/2001 Awards: |
That's funny, I really didn't find X-Death much of a problem... Sshot took care of his punk ass quite easily. Sure, he did have some pretty mean attacks, but when you bare all of your characters (allowing them to equip pretty much everything) and give 2 of them white magic, you're most of the way to invincible.
Zeromus seemed a helluva lot harder than X-Death, at least for me. And Necron could be a pain, but he only had one nasty attack, and if you have Auto-Haste he's so incredibly slow that it doesn't even make any difference. -------------------- "Hit hard, hit first, hit often." --Adm. William "Bull" Halsey, USN |
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Posted: 13th October 2002 20:38
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Returner Posts: 24 Joined: 13/10/2002 Awards: |
I have to say Zeromus because he's tough in FFIV EasyType.
As for FFIVHardType, I haven't gotten there yet. |
Post #3440
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Posted: 15th October 2002 01:25
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Crusader Posts: 1,591 Joined: 1/1/2001 Awards: |
I would have voted for Exdeath. Never beat him. However, I voted Zeromus since he wasn't on the list. Zeromus gave me trouble. I had trouble with Lavos the first time I fought him, years ago. I was young, and I didn't know you had to kill the heal sphere before Lavos and the other sphere. I was also weak and it took over an hour to beat him. He's gotten considerably easier, though.
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Posted: 15th October 2002 22:39
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Onion Knight
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I say Zeromus I had a little trouble with him but untill I leveled up more it was easyer. Then I would say Giygas because of damn Pokey and I didn't know how to beat Giygas in his final form untill I ran out of healing items and began praying.
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Posted: 21st October 2002 03:33
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Black Mage Posts: 173 Joined: 17/10/2002 Awards: |
I only say Necron from FFIX because he kept casting stupid status effects on my characters.
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Posted: 23rd October 2002 16:11
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Returner Posts: 19 Joined: 17/10/2002 Awards: |
The two hardest were two that weren't on your list.
Dark Cloud, from FF3j and Neo X-Death from FF5 Both pretty lame bosses, but nevertheless tough. |
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