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Of FFIV to FFII(US)

I was wondering if you guys could help me list all the Christian references that were eliminated in the translation.

Here are the ones I am aware of.

Holy = White (The spell)
Summoner = Caller
Tower of Prayer = Tower of Wishes
Pray command = eliminated from game (along with other commands Dark Wave, etc)
Wrath of Zeus, other items = eliminated from game

Are there any other religious-related changed besides those that I have listed?




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Targeted individual Jesse Radin

"Steal" was changed to "Dart"
Cid's "Study" was changed to "Peep"

That's all I got. Sorry, no religeous ones off the top of my head.

You mean Throw to Dart, right?

I think Steal might have been the same.

I'm trying to focus mainly on the religious aspect of changes, and maybe why they did not change the tower of bab-il.


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Targeted individual Jesse Radin

They changed all the 4 fiends and the Calcobrena from their originals which were the demons from Dante's Inferno-

Rubicant- Rubicante
Kainazzo-Cagnazzo
Valvalis- Barbariccia
Milon- Scarmiglione
Calbrena- Calcobrena

That's a bit religious, yes?

Also- Longinus Spear was changed to Holy Lance in FFII US.

If I think of some new ones, I'll be sure to post them, as I'm certain there is more.

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Nintendo of America had a policy during it's NES-SNES years of eliminating all religious imagery and text so as to avoid offending members of a particular religion who felt that their symbols were being used frivolously. I can't think of any more examples from FF2/4, but that's the reason why it happened.

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You mean Throw to Dart, right?

I think Steal might have been the same.

I'm trying to focus mainly on the religious aspect of changes, and maybe why they did not change the tower of bab-il.

Um... no... Steal was changed to Sneak in FFIIus.

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Summoner = Caller

I don't quite think this is a religious reference--how is "summon" related to any particular religion, other than medieval-style fantasy religion?

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Summoner = Caller

I don't quite think this is a religious reference--how is "summon" related to any particular religion, other than medieval-style fantasy religion?

Well, Satanists have their demon summoning rituals (probably the most famous example). There are summoning rituals for other spirits, as well. Whether they actually work is a matter of faith, but then so is religion.

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Quote (Electricbassguy @ 27th March 2006 04:10)

Of FFIV to FFII(US)

I was wondering if you guys could help me list all the Christian references that were eliminated in the translation.

Here are the ones I am aware of.

Holy = White (The spell)
Summoner = Caller
Tower of Prayer = Tower of Wishes
Pray command = eliminated from game (along with other commands Dark Wave, etc)
Wrath of Zeus, other items = eliminated from game

Are there any other religious-related changed besides those that I have listed?

You know, now that I think about it, some of these aren't religion based. Summoner - Caller was made because of space limitations, I'm pretty sure. The Pray command wasn't eliminated because it said 'pray'--as you noted, a lot of special commands were taken out, and that's because they were thought to complicate the gameplay too much. And 'wrath of zeus' doesn't qualify as a religious reference under the standards of Nintendo's censorship policy.

If you really want to do a presentation on religious censorship in video games, you'd be better off looking at a wider variety of them. For instance, in Zelda II, crosses were removed from buildings in town.

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Really? I never knew that about Zelda 2.

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Quote (electricbassguy)

Summoner = Caller

I don't quite think this is a religious reference--how is "summon" related to any particular religion, other than medieval-style fantasy religion?

King Solomon was rumored to have been able to communicate and make pacts with spirits,
through use of the power of a symbol which became known as Solomon's seal. This Seal became a major symbol for most forms of later studied Alchemy and later, even demonic rituals.

"Summoners" were considered people who studied and practiced these arts or followed the beliefs.

As far as I know, anyways.
I could be wrong, it's been a long time since I read about it.

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Okay, but there was a goat!

The only one I can think of besides some of the ones that were mentioned is that Yang was a Monk in FFIV which is somewhat of a religous thing. If you remember, in the FFII cart, it was "Karate" on the menu screen.

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