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Kain Takeout (spoiler)
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Posted: 2nd June 2006 00:18
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Quote (Zeromus_X @ 1st June 2006 18:45) I was talking about a certain 'computer programmer'.  Yes, but that programmer doesn't know anything about the innards of FF4. Trust me, I asked.  -------------------- "To create something great, you need the means to make a lot of really bad crap." - Kevin Kelly Why aren't you shopping AmaCoN? |
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Posted: 2nd June 2006 00:20
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I didn't think he knew anything about FFV, either, but then the next day he asked me if I was interested in the Item Drop data. Freakin computer programmers are FAST.
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Post #118337
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Posted: 6th June 2006 08:24
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Quote (Dark Paladin Danny @ 1st June 2006 17:43) www.ffonline.com Go to FF4 and then Beastiary, you should find his stats there! I checked. It's not there. |
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Posted: 6th June 2006 09:47
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Well, we can assume he has ~65,000 (don't know exact number) HP, the most the hex can count to, or whatever.
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Post #118857
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Posted: 6th June 2006 15:48
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If I didn't have my PSone in storage, I'd GameShark a new save and find out if you can actually beat him or not...
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Post #118879
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Posted: 7th June 2006 11:10
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You can beat him, I did it! Then it continues on as if I didn't - not suprised. Well it was fun! He must have more than 65000 hp; but not much more. Thanks for everyone's input.
-------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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Post #118973
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Posted: 7th June 2006 18:25
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I would think his hp max is 65535, the general max used in hex systems...could be wrong though, if it is, have fun with that!
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Post #119014
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Posted: 7th June 2006 22:52
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Quote (sweetdude @ 7th June 2006 11:10) You can beat him, I did it! Then it continues on as if I didn't - not suprised. Well it was fun! He must have more than 65000 hp; but not much more. Thanks for everyone's input. Not to be harsh or anything,but can we have a screen shot? This post has been edited by Dragon King on 14th December 2006 13:06 -------------------- Kel'Thuzad: She is persistent. Reminds me of you, death knight. Arthas:Shut up you damned ghost. -Warcraft III Kel'thuzad comparing Arthas and Sylvanas Windrunner. |
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Post #119080
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Posted: 7th June 2006 23:03
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His HP could 'refill', like Zeromus' does.
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Post #119083
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Posted: 9th June 2006 01:49
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Zeromus' HP refilled? I never knew that.
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Post #119293
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Posted: 9th June 2006 02:02
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Yeah, the most it can go up to is ~65,000, but it just refills after the first set of that is lost, so people seem to think he has ~120,000.
Or something along those lines. I don't know how it works in the programming. -------------------- |
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Post #119298
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Posted: 9th June 2006 02:25
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From what I heard it was random, so anytime in the battle his HP could reach full, so Zeromus could have up to 129,999 HP
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Post #119300
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Posted: 9th June 2006 03:19
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Either way, Zeromus is a cinch.
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Post #119309
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Posted: 11th June 2006 02:34
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Quote (bad andy @ 8th June 2006 22:19) Either way, Zeromus is a cinch. yes, but obnoxiously tedius -------------------- Can you pull down the dawn? It's been so dark since you've been gone and we've been begging for the morning to come. We were so optimistic, wasn't it so easy to be? We were young and naive. -The Hush Sound: Eileen |
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Post #119605
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Posted: 16th June 2006 14:15
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This one's done folks.
Again thanks very much for everyone who has had input, much appreciated. -------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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Post #120326
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Posted: 13th December 2006 22:20
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I've got to finish this one... Having just picked up FFIV again I thought I'd give it a bash. In hindsight this wasn't exactly a spectacular achievement. I mean, this is beating the guy who says: "I've heard there are people with the power to summon monsters. Summoners they call them."
 He sort of turns into stone then fades away. I didn't get a scrn cpt before so hopefully this will clear things up. I thought that I might fight Golbez this time round after but no cigar  And this time I promise I will finish the game! I'll find another challenge along the way though This post has been edited by sweetdude on 14th December 2006 11:03 -------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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Post #138327
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Posted: 14th December 2006 22:09
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Is that you beating kain in fabul? Or is it a hacked emulator version like the scenarios in google?
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Post #138405
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Posted: 15th December 2006 09:57
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Yes this is where you fight him in Fabul Castle. I'm working on making it into a video - but still trying to lower the size of the file. Once I've done this I'll put it up on YouTube. I'll link it from here. Hopefully then there'll be no more controversy.
 -------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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Post #138452
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Posted: 15th December 2006 20:25
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Amazing how the programmers made it so "if" he was beaten (extremely rare) they would take the time and do special effects like Kain turning to stone..
So what happens after you did beat him? Did the game continue on its normal engine story? -------------------- "FFII/FFIV is simply the best role playing game ever created." - 1994-2006 |
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Post #138478
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Posted: 15th December 2006 20:45
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Quote So what happens after you did beat him? Did the game continue on its normal engine story? I remember this. I just game genied my FFVI and got him to Level 99 with battleing goblins. It's not all that great, even though it fun if your bored. You get no items, not special items, or any extra out of the game by doing this. It's as if you never won, even though you did (evil people are such cheaters). Like the screenshot though. How did you get it, rom perhaps? And which? -------------------- Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Chrsit for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost Acts 4:12 Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost |
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Post #138482
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Posted: 15th December 2006 22:10
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Yeah the game just rolls on... disappointment. Also if he says "This is it Cecil (or whatever name)" and attacks, the battle blacks out and the game continues - even if Cecil is still alive.
 The effects of Kain's "death" are nothing special. He only goes grey and fades, but it does look like stone. And it lasts about a second. And FFM, I don't really know what you mean  . I'm no programmer. I can say there were no genies or sharks within sight though if that's what you mean. That would be cheating worse than Kain. -------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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Post #138494
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Posted: 15th December 2006 23:00
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Wow, I can only dream of doing something like that. I wouldn't have the patience to get Cecil to level 99. I'm glad that you did it though, so that it cleared up another rumour and proved it to be true. Congrats!
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Post #138499
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Posted: 15th December 2006 23:00
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Quote And FFM, I don't really know what you mean . I'm no programmer. Sorry , I'll make it simple. How did you get the picture? I was wondering if you played it on an emulator (Zsnes perhaps), a super nintendo, or the Playstation. Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you. I thought it was a simple question.Edit Oh, and I didn't mean you used a gamegenie or a shark code, I just said "I" did. This post has been edited by FF Master on 15th December 2006 23:03 -------------------- Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Chrsit for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost Acts 4:12 Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost |
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Post #138500
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Posted: 15th December 2006 23:15
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Quote (FF Master @ 15th December 2006 23:00) Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you. I thought it was a simple question. It was, don't let me lower your general view of gamers' programming abilites.  And the emulator? It was VisualBoyAdvance. I don't have the Steiner-like perseverance to get to 99 without the throttle/frame skip. But it still took a lot of hours. It's the GBA version, FFIV Advance believe it or not  KEddy: Thanks. I was expecting him to be invincible (never believe the rumours). Got quite a shock when he died. Edit: Kain's death is identical to the Dark Knight's in Mt Ordeals (I'm there finally). Just thought I'd mention before I forget, because this really is sterling stuff... This post has been edited by sweetdude on 16th December 2006 01:11 -------------------- Scepticism, that dry rot of the intellect, had not left one entire idea in his mind. Me on the Starcraft. |
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