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Posted by: WebGraphics_ 25th February 2004 20:35
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It is up again.

I know it's dumb to advertise your own site, so sorry.

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Posted by: Iggy 25th February 2004 21:19
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Seems simple enough, until you realize that Final Fantasy 3 is actually the sixth game in the Final Fantasy series. So technically it should be called Final Fantasy 6. Suffice to say it was released in the US and Europe as Final Fantasy 3 (FF3).
(from your website)

As far as I'm aware, Europe took all six of the starting six games in order. It's only FF3 in America. The game on the SNES here is called Final Fantasy Six, as far as I'm aware.

Posted by: Gogo the Great 25th February 2004 22:04
Mwa Ha Ha. No one will ever know who I am!

Posted by: WebGraphics_ 25th February 2004 22:09
Thanx for pointing that out Iggy, I added you to the acknowlegments section.

Posted by: Tiddles 26th February 2004 01:36
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Seems simple enough, until you realize that Final Fantasy 3 is actually the sixth game in the Final Fantasy series. So technically it should be called Final Fantasy 6. Suffice to say it was released in the US and Europe as Final Fantasy 3 (FF3).
(from your website)

As far as I'm aware, Europe took all six of the starting six games in order. It's only FF3 in America. The game on the SNES here is called Final Fantasy Six, as far as I'm aware.

That's not quite accurate. There is NO SNES FF6 in Europe. Europe took NONE of the first six FF games in ANY order. The first FF to make it here was FF7. FF6 was finally released in its PSX form (but sans FF5, which joined FF4 in Final Fantasy Anthology European Edition) in Europe in 2002. Final Fantasy Origins was released here before it was in North America, bizarrely, but that doesn't make up for NES FF1 never getting here to begin with.

It is true to say, though, that no FF games have been renumbered in Europe.

Anyway, many thanks for debunking that one. I'm sure that link will get stuffed into countless duplicate "Gogo is Adlai Stevenson!!!" threads in the future. smile.gif

Posted by: Snoopyboy 28th February 2004 17:49
Let's see, there are several possibilities of who Gogo is.

Daryl: Plane crashed on Triangular Island. Was abducted by a zone eater.
Adlai Stevenson: No, Adlai Stevenson is too tall to be Gogo. gogo is only 5'5
Banon: No, Bannon is Duncan
A great mime: No mime could ever be as good as Gogo.
Esper: Gogo has the mimic ability. He could be an esper.
Gestahl: Gestahl landed on triangular island after getting hurt by Kefka
Gogo from FF5: I think that Gogo was the name of a monster. There could be several Gogo's. Plus Final Fantasy 5 took place hundreds of years ago then Final Fantasy 6. Plus there is a Gogo in Final Fantasy 9.
Leo: Leo is too tall to have been Gogo. besides Gogo was buried in Thamasa.
Arvis: Gogo could have been Arvis.
One of the 4 warriors of Dawn: I doubt they would conceal thir identities just to become a mime. Wasn't them.
gogo: It is probable that Gogo was Gogo.

Posted by: Ejoty 28th February 2004 19:02
Too funny. This reminds me a bit of "The Crying of Lot 49" which I just read.

The end result is that it's an utterly intriguing and coherent conspiracy theory that has absolutely no real evidence whatsoever. I almost wish those quotes were real just because it was so funny... but yeah, Gogo is just Gogo.

P.S. By the way, has anyone ever thought that Gogo would be a great character for an FF6 prequel about the war of the magi?

Posted by: Iggy 28th February 2004 20:35
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Banon: No, Bannon is Duncan


Since when?

Posted by: Griever_128 28th February 2004 20:46
He means the sprite and it's pallete.

Is Final Fantasy Collection (FF4, FF5, and FF6) for PSX the one in Japan?

Posted by: Goonies 28th February 2004 21:11
Maybe it's true that Gogo is Adlai Stevenson. We don't know what's going on in the programmers' head.

But everyone knows that Gogo is really the true Kefka. We all know that this gentleman is able to make illusions. It's not Kefka that we fight in his tower but a simple illusion of himself. If you don't believe me, look at their clothes, same colors. After the beginning of the end of the world, Kefka fell on the Triangle Island and been sucked by a Zone Eater. He killed every simulacrum and transformed the mimics' cave into his headquarter. But when the heroes found him, he no longer needed to hide himself. He could control the tower from the airship.

Posted by: Iggy 28th February 2004 21:14
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He means the sprite and it's pallete.


And how does that stop Banon being Gogo? huh.gif

Posted by: Griever_128 28th February 2004 21:28
Well, I don't know, but Banon and Gogo have the same pallete, and Banon and
Duncan have the same sprite, but I don't know what is Duncan's pallete.

I remember using Gameshark to replace Cyan with Leo, and his pallete was Cyan's.
Leo had a Blue costume and black hair, but he had his normal pallete in battle.

At least, that's what I think. I think Gogo is just an Easter Egg from Square, but
not anyone from the game. At first, I tought he was Banon, but he is not.
Banon and Arvis

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are probably killed after the events in Vector, after Leo is killed and your party
comes to Thamasa to go to the Floating Continent, I think.

Posted by: Snoopyboy 29th February 2004 02:16
Bannon is Duncan, not only because of the same sprite, but the fact that we never see Duncan in the WOB, and Bannon in WOR. Plus, Duncan probably went up to Mt.Koltz, to head to the Returners, as a secret plot against Gestahl.
Gogo is not Kefka because we saw Gogo and Kefka in the same scene at the end.
Gogo is not Adlai, because the Adlai rumor was just made up by some geek whp had lots of time.
Gogo is Daryl, because there is a Setzer+Gogo scene hidden if you have collected all of Gau's rages, all of the espers, all of the lores, all of the items, all of the gold, and then go to the airship. you will then find Gogo talking to Setzer. This was confirmed by Square.
Plus in the Final Fantasy 6 soundtrack, Gogo's theme is in between Setzer's and Daryl's which means that it is quite likely to be Daryll.
Plus, the designers want to make it so that Gogo is all covered up. I have yet to see a trace of how Gogo really looks. The truth is Gogo=Daryl.

Posted by: l)arkShadow 29th February 2004 02:22
gogo is NOT Darill. or adelai. "it" cant be darill b/c darill DIED. DEAD. DECEASED. GONE. and plaus, there WERE no zoneeaters in WoB. there he cant be adelai cause..... who the heck is he anyway?

Banon could be duncan...

Posted by: Snoopyboy 7th March 2004 16:03
Here are some unusual Gogo theories. These aren't the common ones.
Gau's father: Gau's father was sad at Gau's death. Maybey he wanted to hide his emotions by dressing up as Gogo.
Cid: We never see Cid after the first WOR incident.
Rachel: It is quite possible that Rachel isn't dead yet. She may have survived the imperial assaults.
Zone Eater: It is possible that Gogo is another species of a zone eater.
gilgamesh: Is possible.
Post your own Gogo theories.

Posted by: West Side Tony 7th March 2004 16:08
Ok, let's put these rumors to bed before they get started.

Gau's Father: If you have Gogo in your party, you can go see Gau's Father. People can't be in two places at once. False.

Cid: Cid either lives or dies depending on your actions....in either case, he remains on the island, and you can do the same thing as you did above. Not Cid.

Rachel...Geez, man, have you even played THROUGH the World of Ruin?

Zone Eater: W...T....F?

Gilgamesh: Hmm, never thought of that, I suppose it is possible.

My Gogo theory: Gogo is Gogo.

Posted by: artent 7th March 2004 16:11
who is gilgamesh?

Posted by: Del S 7th March 2004 18:56
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who is gilgamesh?

Boss from 5. Sidekick to main bad guy.

Anyway, back on topic.
Gau's father: See WST's post.
Cid:
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Hes either dead, or sittign around saying 'i feel much better!'

Rachel:
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oh, no way. Shes ever so slightly...dead.

Zone Eater: Actually, it is'nt.
gilgamesh: Is possible? Is indeed, but so the fact that Gogo's just Gogo.

Posted by: Dark_Kain_24 7th March 2004 23:37
Leave Gogo alone the poor transexual can't help that he can't say wether he is a guy or a girl. I don't think he has any connection with any other characters in the game. He is just a secret character the everybody gets.

Posted by: Stephen the Third 8th March 2004 00:41
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Here are some unusual Gogo theories. These aren't the common ones.
Gau's father: Gau's father was sad at Gau's death. Maybey he wanted to hide his emotions by dressing up as Gogo.
Cid: We never see Cid after the first WOR incident.
Rachel: It is quite possible that Rachel isn't dead yet. She may have survived the imperial assaults.
Zone Eater: It is possible that Gogo is another species of a zone eater.
gilgamesh: Is possible.
Post your own Gogo theories. 


Eh..... I really hope that this is some sort of joke topic. I would really hate to think that someone could actually, in his or her right mind, think that ANY of those are possible theories... There is nothing to suggest ANY of those connections AT ALL.

Posted by: Ejoty 8th March 2004 01:06
Well... what about Aldai Stevenson? Just kidding.

Anyway, all of those ideas are bogus in my opinion also. Furthermore, the game gives no type of clue whatsoever so I don't think there's a point in guessing. The only idea I have about Gogo is that if Squenix makes a prequel, then Gogo could be one of the combatants in The War of the Magi (on the side of the magi, of course).

Oh, and Gligamesh, by the way, has four arms, so I don't think it'd make sense for Square to hide the extra two under his robe if they wanted that to be a possibility.

Posted by: Connor 8th March 2004 01:16
Gogo could be any character form FFV considering with the job system you can make anybody anything you want.

he/she just might be Faris since she has this thing about not letting anybody know what her gender is.

Posted by: TreasureHunter 8th March 2004 01:42
I agree with Connor or could we just say he/she is a cross over character from FFV who has no background. Cause the only way we could find out the truth is if we write Square and see if they could tells us. We could start signing a petiton that would make Square tell use Gogo's background and history. Whose in on the idea?

Posted by: SpacemanSpiff 8th March 2004 05:32
Let's go ahead and put this to rest, because we all know that Gogo is is Yuffie Kisagari from FFVII with a Mime materia on her bangle...and she just happened to lose her shuriken...and she lost her whole "I want to steal all your materia, although there is no such thing as materia in FFVI" attitude...and she decided for some strange reason to get lost in a cave and don a set of absolutely dreadful looking robes...and it's all bogus anyways cuz Gogo is just Gogo, although I do like the comparison someone made to Kefka. I'd like to think Gogo is related to Kefka in some way...a brother/sister/uncle/aunt/father/mother of some sort. Eh, probably not, but that's the thrill of it all, right?

Posted by: Lionheart 8th March 2004 06:02
I know How bout Gogo being A lunarian?! why not he can have the all the most powerful moves just like FuSoYa?

Posted by: Shivy 8th March 2004 06:33
IMHO Gogo is just Gogo. And although all the mystery of him is cool, some details about it would be nice, not even details but hints at a deeper story, perhaps if only to make you more interested in its character. The idea I really like is that he's a leftover combatant of the War of the Magi (although I'm playing FF5 right now so the Faris idea was amusing).

Posted by: harry_kinomoto 9th March 2004 01:21
I am getting the increasing feeling that Gogo is just forced in by the makers just because someone suddenly said out of the blue: "Hey we've forgotten a Mimic character! Let's add in a mimic character!"
And hey presto, here comes Gogo-a person that has abosolutely NO connection whatsoever with the main storyline...unless of course you choose to see him to be someone else.
Anyway, I find it odd that no one has mentioned this point. Shivy, if you've finished the 1st part of FF5, you can get the "Mimic" job by going to some underwater castle and "defeating" the boss, who is-well whaddaya know-good old Gogo!!! He even looks, talks, acts and dresses somewhat the same, so...
On the other hand, it's sometimes not altogether possible to make cross-game connections in terms of the FF series. I mean, Cid appears in every game, but you can't say that Cid changes his appearance so often, and is related to Yuna, Rikku, Celes and all the rest.
In any case, however, I still stand by what I said at first. Gogo was just forced in. I may sound crude when I say this but it was just plain lazy and unnecessary for the game makers to put him in without ecen bothering to elaborate more. If Gogo was put in to create some mystery, gads...as Shivy said, then at least MAKE us interested first!!

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 9th March 2004 07:00
Either Gogo is just some random character that the developers put into FFVI for fun, or a Zone Eater's belly is where the FFV Gogo ended up after that Gogo exiled himself to the Cleft of Dimension and then got pushed out of the CoD when the heroes defeated Exdeath and then ended up on Triangle Island but then got swallowed by a Zone Eater.

Comprende?

*Mario jumps off spinning child's head and falls flat onto the ground*

EDIT: Actually, I think the most likely known FFVI character that could be Gogo is Gestahl.
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First, Gestahl wants revenge against Kefka for turning on him. Second, Gestahl, although wanting this, knows he can't do it himself, but also knows he can't let out his identity to the heroes if he wants to join them. Third, the fall from the floating continent has messed up his memory of magic spells, as well as his brain in general, so now he can only do stuff that he can observe other people doing, including magic spells. And the reason he can't equip magicite is because the espers still don't trust him. Although there is still the question of how he survived being kicked off the floating continent...

Posted by: Delita 12th March 2004 04:55
Hmmm, after reading this I realize that you never do figure out who Gogo is...
I always thought it was Daryl, I don't know how I missed that at first, but I must have recieved some subliminal message saying that it could be Daryl. I do remember triangle island looking a little bit like the island that Daryl had crashed into... I dunno
Just another wild theory I guess...

Posted by: GamblingCat 12th March 2004 20:51
Gogo could be
Leo: dunno why just a thought
Gigamesh: I just thought it a minute ago

Posted by: anthonyyoung 15th March 2004 17:18
well, ive got past ff6 world of peace, but necver got to world of chaos, never finshed it and i could never find gogo, so i think he could be.............terra!

Posted by: Iggy 15th March 2004 19:07
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Actually, I think the most likely known FFVI character that could be Gogo is Gestahl.

You're right, I've always thought it boils down to three.
0 Daryl - crashes on a triangular shaped island and is supposed dead, but never found. Gogo is found in the cave of a triangular island.

0 Baram, also presumed dead. Clyde Arrowny couldn't make himself do it, and he was renowned, wasn't he? A famous train robber. He wouldn't want to reveal himself.

0 Gestahl - Presumed dead, too. See GMH's post.

All of these are presumed dead, and are related to the plot in some way. They all have their reasons to conceal their identity - brain trauma and evil past. What I think depends on what mood I'm in. Sometimes I'm in a Baram mood like now, sometimes a Gestahl mood and occasionally a Daryl mood. (I hated it how they called her Darill in my version of the game, urgh).

But that's slightly off topic.

If you have not read the above, then Gogo is Squall. Squall finally realized how hated he was, and decided to become a recluse Goth in fancy coloured clothes rather than dark clothes. And he copies everyone else because he was so bad in FF8 he desperately needed any skill whatsoever. With his career down the drain from FF8, (the only other resort working at McDonalds), Squall decided to hide his identity and fool all those nasty hobbitse...*cough*...gamers into thinking he's Daryl, Baram, or Gestahl. I mean who on earth would think that, anyway? And when he supposedly
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"falls down the hole"
at the end; he's just told Mog his true identity, and the cool-ass moogle pushed him! Haha!

biggrin.gif

Posted by: Ragnorok 15th March 2004 19:40
Gogo could be Seigfried although he wouldent have much of a motive it would be nice to see him again.

Posted by: The Gambler 15th March 2004 23:03
Seigfried would be nice...but i dont think it is verry likely

Posted by: Tiddles 15th March 2004 23:58
Considering you can actually fight Siegfried with Gogo at the colosseum, I think we can safely rule that one out. (As well as the Terra one... rolleyes.gif)

Posted by: Snoopyboy 16th March 2004 05:09
Here is the evidence
The Mystery of Gogo
If I've said it before and I'll say it again: Final Fantasy VI has more mysteries and unsolved subplots than any other role playing game ever created. Last week, we covered the hidden past of Shadow and his daughter Relm, a topic which sparked a posting in the forums about yet another character connection in Final Fantasy VI, this time involving the mysterious Gogo. That will be the basis of this weeks topic.

One of the strangest characters in any Final Fantasy game is Gogo, the Mimic. During your quests in Final Fantasy VI, he/she can be found trapped in the belly of a 'Zone Eater' on the Triangle island. Gogo, completely covered in a shroud of cloth with no apparent identity, has led many people on a quest to try and discover who Gogo really is. My hope is that by the end of these articles you and I will have come a few steps closer on this quest for the proverbial "Holy Grail" of video game mysteries.

The topic brought up in the forum suggested that Gogo was in fact Daryl, Setzer's girlfriend. Setzer, the world famous gambler and airship pilot, seemed to just be a care free character. However, later in the game during the quest to regroup your team, Setzer explains that there is a second airship. The second airship, which was much faster than his, was the creation of his girlfriend Daryl. During the quest to recover the Airship, Sezter has the following flashback:



(On the descending staircase past DARYL's resting place. SETZER starts walking down, with party behind.)

SETZER: This brings back a lot of memories.

(Flashback begins. SETZER and DARYL in a room.)

DARYL: This experimental airship is probably a bit unstable...

SETZER: You can't be serious! What are you trying to prove?!

(Flashback ends.)

SETZER: Watch your step.

(SETZER walks down further. Flashback begins.)

DARYL: If something should happen to me, the Falcon's yours!

SETZER: Nonsense! I'll win the Falcon from you when I whip you in a
race. You'd better clear outta my way!

DARYL: Big talk, buster!

(Flashback ends. Flashback begins. SETZER is flying in the
Blackjack, while Daryl is flying in the Falcon.)

SETZER: There's nothing like flying!

DARYL: Come on! Stop lagging back there! Or do you like chewing on
my wake!

SETZER: Listen to you!

DARYL: This time's for real! I'm going to break every record! I'll
be known as the woman who flew closest to the stars!

SETZER: Be back before sunset! I'll be waiting for you on our hill.

(Next scene is SETZER standing alone watching a sunset.)

SEZTER: The wreck of the Falcon was found a full year later, in a distant land...

(SETZER and the party are standing on the deck of the Falcon,
underground.)

SETZER: I restored the craft, and then put it to rest down here.

EDGAR: This is THE Falcon?

SETZER: I put it in storage. I couldn't bear to look at it. But now it just may save us...
You're probably wondering why I wrote out that little conversation/flashback. Well, lets break it down. Daryl's airship crashes in a distant land where only the wreckage is found. Also, remember that a year had passed. Daryl who could very well have survived the crash would have had to survive the Triangle Island life, and as we all know, those Zone Eaters will engulf anything...they ate you didn't they!

Want some more theoretical proof? Before the last flight, Daryl promises to meet Setzer on a cliff. After the crash Setzer waits for her, but she never arrives. At the end of the game, when Terra flies over the same cliff, you can see some of Gogo's outline on the cliff. But, how did Gogo get there? Remember during the ending when Gogo falls into the hole? Could this be where he/she ends up?

For those of you confused as to the whereabouts of this "cliff", it is located during the scene where you are supposed to revive Cid. If you fail in reviving him, Celes throws herself from a cliff. This is the exact same cliff where Sezter and Daryl were supposed to meet... what is the significance of this island?

Well, like always I figure, lets go straight to the people behind the game. I emailed Squaresoft and got this reply. Although rather cryptic it gives us something that can help us solve our mystery:


Dear Mr. Cox,

Your comments and questions on the character, Gogo, from Final Fantasy VI were quite unique. I have never heard of such a thing before and in fact went and asked one of our game testers/developers who has been with the company for 7 years. His first job with the company was to look over the English translation of Final Fantasy VI(III in the states). He told me this, "The answer to his question is in the game. The only hint I will give, is that in the game there is a cutscene which can only be viewed with Setzer and Gogo in your group". I hope this helps you in your search for answers. Thank you for your questions and comments, Squaresoft Inc. is grateful for fans like you.

Michael King
Customer Relations
Squaresoft Inc.
A hidden scene! Is this something that no-one has seen before? A hidden scene? We finally know there is an answer to the question. Does this hint finally explain that yes, Daryl is Gogo? Unless we actually see this cutscene for ourselves, perhaps we'll never know what the truth is. And maybe.. just maybe.. it's better that way.


Posted by: Spoony Bard 16th March 2004 06:06
I have 2 points.
1) I do not believe that this is conclusive. While it supports the theory nicely, in no way does it prove it.
and
2) next time you use someone elses evidence, at least give them credit. I know this is not yours. I have seen the site you took it from, it is linked to elsewhere in the forums, I am just too lazy to look it up.

Posted by: Tiddles 16th March 2004 08:59
Yeah, this has been posted before (Gogo+Setzer Scene?), and the general impression was that we'd know of such a scene by now if it existed.

Posted by: Ogopogo 16th March 2004 20:08
I'm not saying that I believe it, but I am offering it for your consumption:

Gogo could be the fake Ziegfried. Why?
1) He's not dead.
2) He is relatively weak.
3) He likes to impersonate others.

Just a thought.

Posted by: The Celestial 16th March 2004 20:11
Except that both fake and real are present at the colliseum, one in the back room, and the other fighting.

Posted by: WebGraphics_ 17th March 2004 16:35
Gogo is Herve Villainchaise, the actor who played Tatoo from Fantasy Island and the evil Midget Butler from the James bond movie "The Man With The Golden Gun". Anyone who's seen either of these two roles will immediately see the parallels.

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 17th March 2004 21:50
What about the Ziegfried in the train? That wasn't the Siegfried in the Colosseum. That one hangs out in one of the rooms and battles you only if you bet certain items (I think one of them is Megalixir). So how about that one?

So good point, Ogopogo.

Posted by: Neal 23rd March 2004 15:47
As there have been like 32849237 Gogo Identity threads, it'll be a good idea if all the discussion is limited to one topic. Discuss his identity here, make theories, talk about other peoples' theories, and be civil.

I have also merged many of the existing Gogo topics into this one.

Posted by: ZeiksNegativeRainbow 23rd March 2004 16:17
The Siegfried you see in the back room of the Colosseum is definitely the same as the one you fight when you bet items. He warns you that he's being impersonated when you speak to him.

It's been awhile since I played, but doesn't Banon disappear after the Floating Continent? I'd presume he's dead, but he always had strange powers(the non-magic based Health talent), so who knows? Very unlikely, just a thought.

Posted by: io_rage 23rd March 2004 22:07
An interesting thought. Banon is never heard of again, or really even spoken of again (to my knowledge) after the WoR. The only hole in that theory, though, is a major one - what possible reason would Banon have for hiding his identity among his old friends? I'm not shooting your theory down, just legitimately asking if anyone can think of an answer.

Posted by: ZeiksNegativeRainbow 24th March 2004 02:55
Yeah, that problem particularly applies to Banon... boy, I could puzzle over this for hours and I wouldn't come away with a decent explanation! blink.gif

Posted by: Goonies 24th March 2004 18:39
I agree with the theory that Gogo is just a gogo. He said "I'm the master of the Simulacrum". That means that there were many of them, but propably died after
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THE APOCALYPSE!!! HA HA HA
.

And let's clarify one thing, THERE IS NO HIDDEN SETZER-GOGO SCENE! I looked through all of the script with the Yousei editor and nowhere there are some hints of a hidden scene.

Banon isn't Duncan 'cuz Sabin would have recognized Banon as Duncan, his master for over 10 ten years.

Posted by: Rangers51 24th March 2004 20:10
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He said "I'm the master of the Simulacrum". That means that there were many of them.

Simalacrum is a word meaning mimicry. It's not a reference to him being a leader of a tribe. Interesting thought, though.

Posted by: Neal 24th March 2004 20:18
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what possible reason would Banon have for hiding his identity among his old friends?


This is the reason I don't see Daryl as Gogo, too. In all the flashbacks of her, she was loud, outspoken, and kind of arrogant, in a fun way towards Setzer. To me, Gogo isn't any of those things. I don't know why someone like her would change, especially since she would be reunited with Setzer. I mean, yes, there could be reasons, but I really just think Gogo is Gogo, especially since FF5 Gogo sent him/herself into another dimension, which very well could be FF6. smile.gif


Posted by: DisasterChild8 25th March 2004 02:03
What if (in the Daryl/gogo situation) when daryls airship crashed she lost her memory and dosn't remember setzer. Maybe because of this memory lose she feels the need to save the world cause she has nothing else to live for. That would explain her reasons for joining the group.

More Proof that Daryl is GoGo (or at least a gril): IIRC ther is a piece of armor that only females can equip, which includes GoGo. This could be because s/he is a women or because s/he is a mime and can equip anything.

Posted by: Goonies 25th March 2004 03:03
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Simalacrum is a word meaning mimicry. It's not a reference to him being a leader of a tribe.

-Rangers51

What?!? For years, I lived with the idea that it was a name of tribe or a humanoid race like the Dwarfs or the Lunarians. You english people are strange. But I continue to think that s/he was just Gogo or a gogo and it had no relation with anybody. S/he was just a secret character with no background story (like Umaro).

Posted by: GreyFox 25th March 2004 18:43
Gogo is either daryl or just gogo...i have played this game so much and tried everything that could be tried, including all the glitches... so i know my stuff.

however, if there are extremely eccentric game secrets, or things that i may have missed, please let me know about it

Posted by: Elena99 25th March 2004 20:28
I honestly believe that Gogo isn't meant to be anyone; it's just another character that is supposed to be mysterious. It's one of the mysteries of FF6, and I believe that it's meant to be that way.

However, being a writer, I like imaginative approaches to things, and I like hearing different theories about unsaid (in the game) parts of the plot. Partially why I started that contest with Phoenix.

I like the idea that Gogo is Daryl. She did crash somewhere, and it stands to reason that she could have easily become Gogo. She could have been decent at mimicry, and practised it to the extent that she became a master. She could have even forgotten her old self, or decided to throw that away, despite what a strong woman she was.

I haven't really seriously considered other theories, but there are some interesting ones posted in this thread.

Posted by: ZeiksNegativeRainbow 25th March 2004 20:30
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I don't know why someone like her would change, especially since she would be reunited with Setzer.


The only thing I can think of is that perhaps her pride was greatly injured to the point that she couldn't bear to reveal herself to Setzer but still wished to help. Of course, even if that was true, Square would still have to do a world of work to explain where she would've gotten all her powers and that funky costume.

Posted by: MogMaster 26th March 2004 03:22
Gogo could be--- Who cares? This is so redundent.also. When gogo falls in the hole he is visible on the back of the airship as the screen goes by next to umaro.

Posted by: WebGraphics_ 26th March 2004 16:03
A short time ago I posted the following on yet another forum in the process of thrashing out Gogo's true identity / the AS rumor / etc / etc. I'm posting it here too. It fairly represents my assessment of the matter (although this assessment is certainly refutable).

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Gogo first appeared in FF5. He was a mime then also, although his appearance was quite different. FF5's Gogo is like a clown/jester. FF6's Gogo is much more mysterious.

Well that's to be expected, I guess, since FF5's Gogo was likely drawn by a monster artist, while FF6's Gogo was drawn by the legendary Yoshitaka Amano. In both cases Gogo's "look" was conceived by someone who had no say in the plot/gameplay of either game.

That makes it much harder to link Gogo to any one person, since the decision to include Gogo, the secret locations of Gogo, the Gogo-dungeon designs and Gogo's concept art were likely all overseen by different (Japanese) people.

It is therefore most likely that Gogo is, in fact, Gogo. Just as Cid is Cid, a chocobo is a chocobo and a moogle is a moogle.

As for the claim that Gogo is Adlai Stevenson, I just don't buy it. Don't get me wrong, I've read a lot about Adlai Stevenson, he was a very strange (some might say cool) guy--but he isn't Gogo.

The link in my signature leads to a discussion by me of the whole Adlai Stevenson / Gogo theory. I recommend it to anyone interested in Gogo and/or this particular rumor.

Posted by: LockeCole 27th March 2004 02:13
I have a theory, I have no solid facts to back it up, but the more I think, the more realistic it sounds.

Kefka makes his biggest mistake of pushing ghastal off the floating continent. Ghastal somehow survives(I am trying to theorize how) the fall. He lands on the triangle island, and makes camp in the underground. Wanting revenge on Kefka, he joins the party for sure victory.

I dont think Gogo is from FFV. On a site someone had logical thoughts that final fantasies go backward. As in FF9 comes before FF8 comes before FF7.
Proof: FF9, summons are spirit things that inhabit the summoners body
FF8, summons are still guardian like beings but no longer have to occupy the summoners body
FF7, summons are now compacted into gems called materia,
FF6, summons are still put into gems called espers, which are most likely frozen materia, and the summons are much more intelligent and concious
All other FFs Summons are so convenient you just use a few mp,s and they are at your every beck and call.

This proves that the summons do not evolve throughout the games but in fact devolve showing every new game to be a prequal, therefore Gogo was not from FFv, maybe the FFVI gogo went to FFV land but not viceversa.

Whew, Im done now ohmy.gif

Posted by: Goonies 27th March 2004 03:11
Quote (LockeCole @ 26th March 2004 21:13)
Kefka makes his biggest mistake of pushing ghastal off the floating continent. Ghastal somehow survives(I am trying to theorize how) the fall. He lands on the triangle island, and makes camp in the underground. Wanting revenge on Kefka, he joins the party for sure victory. [...]

This proves that the summons do not evolve throughout the games but in fact devolve showing every new game to be a prequal, therefore Gogo was not from FFv, maybe the FFVI gogo went to FFV land but not viceversa.

How Gesthal could survived for thousands of years? I'm not saying that Gogo is Gesthal, I'm saying that Gogo is...

WARNING: This can make you have an heartbreak.

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Gogo

Posted by: Zechs 28th March 2004 02:24
this is something else that may POSSIBLY disprove the Daryl = GOGO theory... I am in the world of ruin right now... and i was inside kefka's tower when i had remembered that i hadn't gotten gogo... so i went and got him then remembered the infamous gogo = setzer cutscene rumor and to try and get this i went to daryl's tomb and got to the end where you fight the boss in there and if anyone will remember what it says on the coffin

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DARYL SLEEPS HERE


this says to me that there is a body in there... if anyone has any info disproving this please reply

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srry i meant that if anyone can disprove that there is a body in the coffin at all... i seen to remember something that disproves it but i can't remember what it is

Posted by: Rangers51 28th March 2004 02:59
Quote (Zechs @ 27th March 2004 20:24)
this is something else that may POSSIBLY disprove the Daryl = GOGO theory... I am in the world of ruin right now... and i was inside kefka's tower when i had remembered that i hadn't gotten gogo... so i went and got him then remembered the infamous gogo = setzer cutscene rumor and to try and get this i went to daryl's tomb and got to the end where you fight the boss in there and if anyone will remember what it says on the coffin

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DARYL SLEEPS HERE


this says to me that there is a body in there... if anyone has any info disproving this please reply

Why disprove it? Just because it says that she sleeps there isn't any proof at all. You can't see inside the coffin to see if there's a corpse inside.

I agree with you that Daryl isn't Gogo, but your proof really isn't at all. Sorry.

Posted by: West Side Tony 28th March 2004 21:44
No offense Rangers51, you being the site mod and all, but I don't think a person can "sleep" or "rest" in a tomb at all without the body actually being there. They would put "In loving memory of..." or something along the lines of that if a person had died and they had no body to bury afterwards...

While it isn't the best proof in the world, it's still valid I would think...

But then again, it could be a mistranslation, which opens up a world of possibilities..

Again, I mean no disrespect.

Posted by: sbq92 28th March 2004 23:42
I found an FF5 FAQ recently, and it has all of the classes in Japanese, then translated in English. The Mimic class is called "Monomaneshi - Gogo," which translates to "Mimic - Gogo." Gogo appears to be the actual name of the class, which would explain Gogo being a Mimic in FF5 and FF6. It is not his/her name, but rather just what you call him/her because that is what he/she is.

Also, if you look at the name "Gogo", you could figure it is two "go's", as in, take your turn. That way, it would mean that someone "goes," then he/she "goes," thus resulting in two turns taken, or two "go's," or "Gogo." I think that's always how I've thought of it.

So, along with Daryl being dead and in her tomb (I just checked the Japanese translated script and it also says "DARYL SLEEPS HERE"), Gestahl falling 1000's of feet to his doom, and Elvis actually being dead, I believe it is safe to say that Gogo is just Gogo, a character with the class of Mimic.

Posted by: Phunbaba 4th April 2004 18:19
Gogo is actually Lord Voldemort hiding from Harry Potter

Posted by: LingaringBell 4th April 2004 22:45
I think Gogo is kinda part of the SquareSoft Legacy. Square seems to like to keep certain characters around, and just put them randomly in games, such as Gilgamesh or the legendary swordsman, whose name has slipped my mind at the moment, who you fight in the phantom train in ff6, or any of the esper/epilons/summoned beasts. These creatures just seem to sort of constants in the final fantasy world. You fight Gogo in ff5 to get the mimic job, and he claims himself to be a legendary mimic. I personally like the war of magi idea, but I figure he is just some sort of eternal creature that wanders the world.

Posted by: hello 5th April 2004 00:08
gogo means mimic.

Posted by: GamblingCat 6th April 2004 22:14
Quote (Snoopyboy @ 28th February 2004 12:49)

There could be several Gogo's. Plus Final Fantasy 5 took place hundreds of years ago then Final Fantasy 6. Plus there is a Gogo in Final Fantasy 9.
besides Leo was buried in Thamasa.

Gogo in FFIX, that sounds a bit unusal, and if he is in it, where was he? and you said that gogo was buried in Thamasa, it was Leo, you made an error, and shouldn't most of the stuff you say be in spoiler tags?

Posted by: Zechs 6th April 2004 22:37
srry gamblingcat but YOU made an error... according to ur "quote", u read wrong Snoopyboy didn't say gogo was buried in thamasia... and as we all know gogo didn't die within the confines of this game

Posted by: Vengeance 8th April 2004 05:54
theres a cinema if you get all espers/lores/etc? wow ill hafta run thru the game again and get ragnarock esper...

Gesthal theory is completely whiped out.
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He was struck with bolt3 by the statues (looked like bolt3...may actually be the "light of judgement") and THEN thrown off the island...tumbling down millions of miles....even if he DID land on the future location of the triangle island...he woulda been crushed.


Gogo as kefka...no that cant be...gogo as kefkas brother maybe? hrmm....similiar clothing design...yea possibly.

Gogo as darill...I dont think so. I mean...darill sleeps here isnt something you write without having a body...

gogo as gogo...nahhhhhhhhh thats not fun at all biggrin.gif

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Posted by: nova weapon 8th April 2004 14:25
gogo most likely is a character you dont see often, like rachael or gestahl.

Posted by: AJ Ace 9th April 2004 23:32
I am Gogo

Posted by: Phalanx 10th April 2004 20:07
Now, I'm all for saying that Gogo is just Gogo. Sure, the theories presented are intrigueing, but are at best grasping at strings.

However, as I'm reading over the topic, an idea came to me. There's not a whole lot of basis to it, I admit, but its something thats stuck in my head.

Now, Kefka and Celes were altered by experimentation. They are known as successes, for the most part (Kefka being, well...TOO successful, you might say). They can use magic without having Magicite, nor being a half-esper like Terra.

Well, we don't see any other's besides those two...but who's to say they were the only one?

What if Gogo was a failed experiment, and somehow escaped?

Just an idea.

Posted by: Angry_Lizard 10th April 2004 20:29
we all know he truth of who he really is....... ME! PH34r the master mimic, Bwahahahahahahahaha
seriously though he is either just Gogo, aN imperial experiment, Daryl, or Gestahl

Posted by: Dark Paladin 10th April 2004 21:52
Gogo is guy named Estragon who hangs around all day near a tree with a guy named Vladimir, and gets beaten every night.

Posted by: Zechs 10th April 2004 21:58
i now agree with phalanx... i mean in FF7 Red VIII is an experiment who changes sides... i mean why shouldn't gogo be like the same thing... frankly i think we can safely eliminate the gogo is gestahl theory because well... NOBODY... and i do mean nobody could survive a drop like that... and if he did odds are he would have been swallowed when the earth changed

Posted by: Dark Paladin 10th April 2004 22:15
Quote (Zechs @ 10th April 2004 17:58)
i now agree with phalanx... i mean in FF7 Red VIII is an experiment who changes sides...

If you mean XIII, no he wasn't. Red was a study specimen who escaped.

Posted by: Snoopyboy 10th April 2004 23:07
Gogo could be Gilgamesh because Gilgamesh just never gives up in battles. Gilgamesh fights you like 6 times in Final Fantasy 5. And in the end he said he'd like to be on the hero's side, so maybe Gilgamesh became Gogo.

Posted by: West Side Tony 12th April 2004 22:02
Quote (Dark Paladin @ 10th April 2004 16:52)
Gogo is guy named Estragon who hangs around all day near a tree with a guy named Vladimir, and gets beaten every night.

Waiting For Godot...good show...

They should have named Umaro Didi lol

Posted by: Goonies 12th April 2004 23:27
I know, Gogo is my cat! Since we all know that there is no proof in-game that Gogo is somebody else than himself, this topic seemed to morph into a joke topic. Then, I think that we can make rumours (cough cough lies cough) on Gogo's identity.

Gogo is impresario because he came back from the deads to fight Kefka because he destroyed his train.

Gogo is Maria because she is cute but she is a diva and she thinks that the universe turns around her. So, she decided to do her crise because her tea was too cold and became a simulacrum.

Gogo is the guy in the Blackjack that asked you to unequip your party. Don't ask me why.

Gogo is Odo from Star Trek: Deep Space 9. Changeling, Mimicry, it's all the same.

Gogo is Data from Star Trek: TNG in is quest for humanity.

Gogo is an Orog who mispelled his name.

And finally, Gogo is Smiling Bob who hides from millions of frustated men who wants to erase his damned smile.

Posted by: GABlastman 12th April 2004 23:35
I've got only got two good choices for Gogo's Identity, its either Daryl, or a pile of really used and old gym clothes that came to life. Yeah....

Posted by: Goonies 13th April 2004 00:08
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I've got only got two good choices for Gogo's Identity, its either Daryl, or a pile of really used and old gym clothes that came to life. Yeah....


Then explain me something: How/When/Where did she learn how to mimic perfectly others action?

Maybe she had her powers since she was born (even if Setzer doesn't mention that) I suppose that if she doesn't recognized Setzer, it's because she lost her memory. If she lost her memory, how can she remember her skills?

And, Setzer would have recognized the island where the Falcon wrecked, it's the same island. Triangle island didn't change at all (except for the apparition of Zone Eaters).

Or he would have recognized her voice. Gogo had a voice that can't be classify in any sex "standard" voices.

And NO, THERE IS NO GOGO + SETZER SUPER DUPER MEGA GIGA TERA HIDDEN SCENE. Then, I believe that Gogo is Jean Charest who hides from Infoman.

Posted by: WebGraphics_ 13th April 2004 00:42
Quote (Goonies @ 12th April 2004 19:08)
Then, I believe that Gogo is Jean Charest who hides from Infoman.

Infoman?? Vous voulez dire le Bloc Quebecois.

Posted by: Snoopyboy 13th April 2004 01:36
Gogo, is really one of those little green men in the caves of Zone Eater. He was the leader of them, so he dresses differently. That's my theory.

Posted by: Knight of Doma 13th April 2004 23:57
Gogo is just Gogo, the mime who apears in final V and gives you the mime job.
I don't think it's Daryl because of what was engraved on her tomb.
P.D:Shadow survived when the floating continent fell why couldn't have gestahl done the same?(not that I thhink he is Gogo)

Posted by: Zechs 14th April 2004 00:03
Quote (Knight of Doma @ 13th April 2004 18:57)
Gogo is just Gogo, the mime who apears in final V and gives you the mime job.
I don't think it's Daryl because of what was engraved on her tomb.
P.D:Shadow survived when the floating continent fell why couldn't have gestahl done the same?(not that I thhink he is Gogo)

??? srry but that doesn't make sense...
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because he never fell directly from the floating continent... he jumped onto the airship... that is if you save him... if you don't save him, he isn't alive in the world of ruin

i am confused???

Posted by: Dark Paladin 14th April 2004 00:09
Quote (West Side Tony @ 12th April 2004 18:02)
Quote (Dark Paladin @ 10th April 2004 16:52)
Gogo is guy named Estragon who hangs around all day near a tree with a guy named Vladimir, and gets beaten every night.

Waiting For Godot...good show...

They should have named Umaro Didi lol

Or Umaro Gogo and Mog Didi. Their relationships seem to reflect in that manner.

Posted by: Goonies 15th April 2004 02:23
Quote (WebGraphics_ @ 12th April 2004 20:42)
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Then, I believe that Gogo is Jean Charest who hides from Infoman.

Infoman?? Vous voulez dire le Bloc Quebecois.

[OFF-TOPIC]Charest, salaud, le peuple aura ta peau.[\OFF-TOPIC]

Gogo is a gogoboy.

Gogo is the little boy in Vector that cure 1 HP to you.

Gogo is the black materia keeper

Gogo is Darth Veder's father

Gogo is Ben Laden hiding from Georgy Boy because they have the same clothes, but different palette swaps. That's remind me a certain Banon is Duncan theory... tongue.gif

I challenge you to find more incredible Gogo is... theories.

Posted by: sbq92 15th April 2004 14:09
I got to thinking, and I found some arguably incredible proof that Gogo is not Daryl or Gestahl (or anyone else people might think he/she is besides just being Gogo). When you find him/her, he/she says something like "I've been here a long time." Now, I don't know what you all think a long time is, but I highly doubt that it just means a couple of years. The context implies something along the lines of 50~100 years, or, if you'd like to stretch it, 500~1000 years. In this case, Gogo can't be Daryl, and most certainly can't be Gestahl.

Also, another interesting point. In the Japanese version, the gender isn't even addressed at all ("Is it a man? A woman? Should we ask?"). Hmm...

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 15th April 2004 17:04
In the English version, the gender isn't addressed either. That line that you quoted is in her/his introduction in FFIIIus as well.

Posted by: Terra Branford 16th April 2004 08:22
Gogo is really Big O.

Posted by: sbq92 17th April 2004 15:40
I know who Gogo is! He is obviously Mega Man!

Mega Man - Copies the abilities of the bosses he fights
Gogo - Copies the abilities of his teammates

Mega Man - Blue, Cyan
Gogo - Red, Yellow, Green (Obviously he had to disguise himself, so he used opposite colors of his real color)

Mega Man X - Way in the future, Idle too long
Gogo - Final Fantasy is in no distinct time period. Therefore, Mega Man X was around for a long time, meaning he stayed through past the end of the Mega Man X series, and even through Mega Man Zero.

Well, this can all only mean one thing: Final Fantasy is the future world of Mega Man, thousands of years later.

Therefore, Gogo is Mega Man X, and since Mega Man X is the future version of Mega Man, it can be concluded that Gogo is Mega Man.

Posted by: The Ancient 24th April 2004 22:22
I can prove that theory wrong. Mega Man and Mega Man X are not the same mega man. They are from different dimensions. Therefore Final Fantasy is actually a seperate dimension from the other two Mega Man dimensions. Therefore Gogo is Woodman.

Posted by: Sherick 24th April 2004 23:12
Gogo is a reicarnation of Daryll, Gesthal, Bannon, Arvis and other who want to revenge Kefka.

Posted by: sbq92 26th April 2004 05:40
Quote (The Ancient @ 24th April 2004 18:22)
I can prove that theory wrong.  Mega Man and Mega Man X are not the same mega man.  They are from different dimensions.  Therefore Final Fantasy is actually a seperate dimension from the other two Mega Man dimensions.  Therefore Gogo is Woodman.

Correction: Mega Man and Mega Man X are one in the same. The story as I know it is that Dr. Light got worried after Mega Man nearly killed Dr. Wily in Mega Man VII (robots aren't allowed to kill humans). So, Dr. Light designed some modifications and altered Mega Man and put him to sleep for a very long time. Then, Mega Man woke up many years later and was dubbed Mega Man X because of his coolness. happy.gif

But anyway, I'd like to hear your theory about how Gogo is Woodman. tongue.gif

Posted by: Hanyou 26th April 2004 09:04
I think Gogo is my neighbor Bob. You see Bob is real shady character and his house is always dark, much like Gogo's cave. Also the other day when I was mowing my lawn, what do you suppose Bob was doing? That's right, he was mowing his lawn as well, that's the mimic ability. Weird huh?

When you're really tired anything seems like a possibility...

Posted by: Djibriel 28th April 2004 14:42
Have none of you ever played FF V? Gogo appears there, too. Gogo is just who he is: a mysterious guy with a bad taste for clothes and an ability to travel trough dimensions/zones (eat THAT, Chrono Trigger). Gogo throws himself into the X-Zone in FF V and you pull him out of another dimension as well in FF VI

Was that so hard?

Posted by: Rangers51 28th April 2004 15:30
Quote (Djibriel @ 28th April 2004 10:42)
Have none of you ever played FF V?

Did you read any posts but yours? smile.gif

Posted by: Goonies 28th April 2004 18:23
Dear Djibriel,

we know that. We know also that he can be Daryl, Baram or Gesthal. But there is no proof of that. We know also that you are a newbie. I must tell you that we try to find the most incredible theories just for fun.

Therefore, Gogo is Bob, the Vampiric ninja pirate from outer-space.

Posted by: Djibriel 28th April 2004 22:06
Yeah, well sorry I said anything that made sense. Won't happen again.

Posted by: GamblingCat 28th April 2004 22:15
A wierd theroy I thought of was that Gogo was the Impresario, don't know why but he could be.

Posted by: Sherick 28th April 2004 23:53
Couldn't be, you can have Gogo in your party when you go to the opera house and meet the Impressario. Sorry

Posted by: bebi vegeta 29th April 2004 14:43
i think gogo is the same person from ffv, but i also believe that he/she may also may be daryll, but it also might be that we are all wrong and it is an original charicter that they decided to model after the one in ffv.
i have been playing ffiv since the day i got my snes and it it the best game (ff wise) that i have played. and i have even found my own glitches that everyone does not give me credit for. ahh well. the creators will never tell and this topic will be debated till judgement day. hey but have fun doing it.




ok my ranting is over...

Posted by: The Celestial 30th April 2004 20:23
Gogo is an actress named Maya who was quite skilled, but was forced out of work due to the discovery of the famous Maria. Her special talent was mimicry and simulacrum, as evidenced by one of her more famous starring roles. Then the end of the world happened. Nobody cared about actors and actresses anymore, except maybe the Impresario. Somehow Maya survived, but she and several of her acting friends got swallowed by the nearest Zone Eater.

...if you get this reference, you officially have no life.

Posted by: TheLostGambler 1st May 2004 22:36
OK, let's give this thread a quick spray of rumor-killer.

Gogo COULD NOT be:
Daryl - She's dead. D-E-A-D. So stop implying otherwise.
Gestahl - No. Gestahl is NOT gogo. Nothing can fall 3-4 thousand feet and still be alive and besides, there's no evidence of him even landing on triangle island. He could've:
A) Fallen and hit the ocean. This makes sense because we can't see the bottom of the ocean and when things hit the ground from 3-4 thousand feet in the air, they leave a crater.
B ) Not hit the ground at all. This also makes sense because judging by the way he got fried, I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that his body was very vulnerable and could easily be torn to shreds by the wind, caused by the end of the world.
FFV Gogo - It can't be him, either. Implying the two gogo's to be identical also implys that Gogo's cave is the Cleft of Dimension, and that can't be true because every monster you ever cast X-Zone on would show up there in random encounters.
Baram - Also dead.
Duncan - You can visit Dancan with Gogo in your party, and as far as know Kefka is the only person capable of cloning or creating shadows of himself.

Gogo could be:
A) A combatant in the War of the Magi, left for dead on triangle island and engulfed by a zoneeater soon aftarwards, to sit and recover for one thousand years.
B ) Mr. Easter Egg, put in the game as a joke.
C) A pawn, in video game designers' never-ending quest to cause widespread chaos on the internet by fueling a rumor fire.

So which of the three is it? Personally, I'm in favor of:
C) A pawn, in video game designers' never-ending quest to cause widespread chaos on the internet by fueling a rumor fire.

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 2nd May 2004 02:15
Seeing as how there have been a number of rather nonsensical replies to the question "Who is Gogo?" already, I'll add my own:

I am Gogo!

I have been known to mimic people before. I may do it just because it's funny, because I feel like making a fool of myself, just to annoy people, to mock someone, to make fun of someone (without the intention to mock), or even to successfully get myself kicked from chat. Of course, when I mimic someone, I don't necessarily do what they do as well as they can do it (I can't mow the lawn, drive a car, or program a robot as well as an experienced mower, driver or programmer), but I still learn by copying others and their work.

Do I reside in a cave? Well, close enough, since my dorm room is located behind a narrow doorway at the end of a narrow hallway. And my dorm room has only one window; it can be a rather dark room later in the afternoon.

I have little taste in fashion, and often dress in a compendium of several odd colors.

I often have strange music playing in my "lair", since it's neither pop music nor classical music, but rather videogame music.

Aren't I like Gogo? In fact, I may be mimicking him! smile.gif

Posted by: Sherick 2nd May 2004 04:07
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Daryl - She's dead. D-E-A-D. So stop implying otherwise.
Gestahl - No. Gestahl is NOT gogo. Nothing can fall 3-4 thousand feet and still be alive and besides, there's no evidence of him even landing on triangle island. He could've:
A) Fallen and hit the ocean. This makes sense because we can't see the bottom of the ocean and when things hit the ground from 3-4 thousand feet in the air, they leave a crater.
B ) Not hit the ground at all. This also makes sense because judging by the way he got fried, I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that his body was very vulnerable and could easily be torn to shreds by the wind, caused by the end of the world.
FFV Gogo - It can't be him, either. Implying the two gogo's to be identical also implys that Gogo's cave is the Cleft of Dimension, and that can't be true because every monster you ever cast X-Zone on would show up there in random encounters.
Baram - Also dead

W...t...f? Who said Daryll, Baram, and Gesthal were dead? I have no personal opinion though I don't think stuff like the FFV Gogo can be ruled out. And anyway, are you trying to DESTROY such a great enigmatic puzzle?

Posted by: bebi vegeta 4th May 2004 13:23
Quote (TheLostGambler @ 1st May 2004 17:36)
Gestahl - No. Gestahl is NOT gogo. Nothing can fall 3-4 thousand feet and still be alive and besides, there's no evidence of him even landing on triangle island. He could've:
A) Fallen and hit the ocean. This makes sense because we can't see the bottom of the ocean and when things hit the ground from 3-4 thousand feet in the air, they leave a crater.
B ) Not hit the ground at all. This also makes sense because judging by the way he got fried, I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that his body was very vulnerable and could easily be torn to shreds by the wind, caused by the end of the world.

hey, but awnser me this, how could he be dead when he gave the coordinates to a magicite in a range that was created after the end of the world...

FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!!!!! YEAH BABY!!!!!!!!!
lol sorry that was complete and total spam but i wanted to do it, the voices in my head told me to... blink.gif

Posted by: sbq92 4th May 2004 15:57
Quote (bebi vegeta @ 4th May 2004 09:23)
hey, but awnser me this, how could he be dead when he gave the coordinates to a magicite in a range that was created after the end of the world...

I always figured the Phoenix Cave had been submerged, just like Serpent's Trench and Ebot's Rock, and emerged when the world was "undone." In this case, it's entirely possible that the Emperor knew where the Phoenix magicite was and possibly even had plans to try to get it, but it was submerged and he didn't have a sub like in FF3 or FF5. tongue.gif

Posted by: The Ancient 4th May 2004 17:08
I thought we settled this when I said he was Samurai Goroh from F-Zero. Think about it...stolen cars..stolen clothes...mimicing abilities...speed booster...

I rest my case.

Posted by: Kit 4th May 2004 19:14
Gogo is... Mogs evil twin, Moog!
smile.gif

Posted by: bebi vegeta 6th May 2004 12:29
Quote (Kit @ 4th May 2004 14:14)
Gogo is... Mogs evil twin, Moog!
smile.gif

lol. and kupek has a hit on mog and "gogo" will kill him when the time is right. mwahaha shifty.gif

Posted by: William 6th May 2004 23:25
Here's an idea...

Gogo=Final Fantasy. Gogo is the very essence of Final Fantasy, but in human form. Maybe gogo is really a crystal, much like...
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how that guy in MQ was a crystal
or something like that. That's also why he/she/it mimics everyone and that's all he/she/it can do because gogo is really all of the characters kind of?

Hey, it was something new lol was going to just play around and say gogo is really a power ranger or barney or something but eh...

Posted by: blitz expert duncan 7th May 2004 17:06
gogo could be the theif that used to help out shadow when they worked togever

Posted by: Adma 7th May 2004 17:37
Yea his name was Baram, too lazy to find the post, but someone metioned that already, smile.gif but it is a good thought really, I kind of like the idea

Posted by: William 12th May 2004 22:30
Ok, actually I think the rumor about Gogo appearing on a cliff after falling through the hole at the end of the game is false.

I went through the entire ending, in the slowest speed I could without blinking and didn't see that. However, I did see something else, which was VERY hard for me to take a picture of, but I did after 10 minutes of trying...

After falling through the hole, Gogo is on the airship, not on a cliff. I spotted him to the right hand of this image:

http://www.imagehop.com/show.php?id=642f6f8551bc&n=ff6gogo.JPG

No altering has been done, you can see that my ZSNES is on pause (which was the only way I could get the shot since it goes by so quickly) so it's not forged or anything.

EDIT: If the image doesn't show, try reloading a few times. Hard to find a good image host nowdays.

Posted by: Fox 15th May 2004 03:41
I agree with that site that says the FF games go backwards, as in 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, .... From that I have a theory that is over 95% speculation. Gogo is Vincent. Vincent went ( was it 30, or 15, or 20, I don't remember) years without aging. That suggest that he doesn't age, and could thus still be around in ff6. Their personalities, or lack thereof, are similar, and they both have an aura of mystery. So, say someone created a cure for Vincent turning into monsters, but it didn't work correctly, so he became a completely hideous, yet mostly humanoid, beast, except for his eyes and his mind. So he then starts dressing the way Gogo does in order to hide that, and gos off on some sort of journey with only his gun and a mimic materia. Somewhere along the way he runs out of ammo, loses his gun, gets sucked up by a zoneseeker, and masters the mimic materia to extent that it becomes like a part of him. Several centuries later the group from FF6 finds him, and he decides he has to help. Sometime after that he gets trapped in the sunken Worus tower, and also he is starting to be forget his past. the shard you win from that battle is actually the mimic materia. Taking it leaves him without his mimic ability. Somewhere along the line he completely forgot his past, got hit in the head, and became an evil, princess kidnapping man named Garland. Also, the cure is starting to wear off. When Garland becomes Chaos in FF1, it is acually just Vincent's transformation.

So there you have it, Vincent is Gogo is Garland is Chaos is probably someone else in a different FF game is Mickey Mouse is Kenny is Barney is a power ranger is Bob.l

Posted by: Sherick 15th May 2004 03:53
I think we have all figured out that Gogo is the merge of God and Baram. Since Del won the fanfic contest with that idea, I think that it's only fitting.

Posted by: Blue-Fire14 17th May 2004 22:49
frggfh

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Don't make pointless posts. Hope you've read the forum rules. -Tiddles

Posted by: Duo_Dragoon 18th May 2004 16:52
I read something strange about a theory of Gogo being Adlai stevenson. But I believe that Gogo is an etherreal being who exists in a universe only to disappear and reappear at random times.

Posted by: Sherick 18th May 2004 21:10
The Stevenson one was reletively popular, though im not sure how it all adds up to being Gogo. The most sensible one is the Gogo boss from 5, but that's not any fun. The Stevenson one is just another funny possibility I guess.

Posted by: l)arkShadow 19th May 2004 00:55
You guys have strange thoughts... GoGo is actually.......



TWO MOOGLES ONE STANDING ABOVE THE OTHER WITH LOTS OF CLOTHING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Could be.

P.S Gogo AINT Adlai Stevenson.

Posted by: Shinrin 19th May 2004 03:27
Gogo is just Gogo. and i'll check to see if there is any diffrences in between the us version of what gogo says and the japanese verson of sky render's translation. should have check that when i was beta testing it.

Posted by: Yuki Usagi 20th May 2004 21:26
What about Relm's mother? If she wasn't actually dead. "Sketch" is copying a monster's random attack and "Mimic" is copying an ally's previous attack. They're not that different. Maybe Gogo is related to the Blue Mages in Thamasa?

"Gogo" in Japanese means "afternoon" - maybe because you can't get Gogo until late in the game? "Go" is also Japanese for "five". Does 55 have any significance? 5+5?

Really though I think asking "who is Gogo" is like asking "who is Mog". Mog is just Mog. He's a Moogle. Just like Gogo is just Gogo, a Mimic. I think he's just there to be a fun character to find. He's the most secret of the secret characters because he's never seen or mentioned in the game unless you find him. If he'd had more of a backstory that tied into the rest of the game then there might have been hints about him that would have made him less of a secret.

Posted by: Sherick 20th May 2004 21:58
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"Go" is also Japanese for "five".


FF 5 possibly?

Posted by: Jay Tee 21st May 2004 21:28
i have a idea (that is partley said before)!
what about: Gogo being relms mom, daughter of strago, they are dressed very much alike.
Why mom: i have this crazy idea that shadow is relms father, why strago is there : ph34r.gif shadow would kill his own mother for a nickle, strago is his father-in-law, thats why he isn't dead...
That really make sence... wacko.gif

Posted by: Bum's Rush 23rd May 2004 07:25
all of yall bring up good points, but is it possible that Gogo is just a secret hidden character that has no reference to the game or any other past game in general? Quit hurting your brains by thinking so much, i know i do pinch.gif

Posted by: gogo 24th May 2004 15:47
It doesn't matter who I am

All that matters is I have a fan club, donations are accepted.





Seriously, it doesn't matter, I WILL ALWAYS BE MYSTERIOUSLY UNKNOWN


and so, I randomly drop by again after not being here for almost a year


Posted by: Zechs 26th May 2004 22:25
Quote (Yuki Usagi @ 20th May 2004 16:26)

He's the most secret of the secret characters because he's never seen or mentioned in the game unless you find him. If he'd had more of a backstory that tied into the rest of the game then there might have been hints about him that would have made him less of a secret.

this is an interesting thought... see in FF7 at least vincent has a backstory and a connection in the game, but in neither FF5 or FF6 gogo doesn't... just something to think about

Posted by: Daniel 27th May 2004 03:44
This is still kind of off topic, but that I still figure that we should also if possible "Discuss Sigfried's Identity And/Or How To Acquire Him Here", too, since that he just may obviously be some other character like Baram, yet that we really don't know that for certain no doubt, and also that every time that I then run into battle with him or his impersonator, either it's Seigfried or Zeigfried, that it always seems like that there's actually some way or other to then really get him to join the other party members for the rest of the game after that, just like certain other rumors elsewhere out there on the Internet are also indicating about his identity and/or about how to actually acquire him. >Daniel<

Posted by: Dingleberry 31st May 2004 08:30
Gogo is not the former governer of illinois, Adlai Stevenson,

Gogo IS the governer of california, Arnold Schwarzanegger(sp?)

note they both have masculine shoulders,

and in the character portraits, they have a striking similarity in the eyes

although there is a flaw in my theory

gogo can mimic the role of anyone flawlessly, be it a half-esper woman, or a yeti

while arnold can only mimic the role of austrian accented men and kindergarten cops

you decide

[edit: another suspect, this guy]
user posted image

Posted by: l)arkShadow 12th June 2004 03:40
OR !!!


Gogo is a clone of Kefka, and the final boss kefka really isnt "the final boss" and Gogo is secretly going to murder all of the heroes after the heroes beat the fake kefka. MAYBE!

OR !!!!

Gogo is an evil dark form thingy or dark essence made of the destruction of WoB and was made to only do whatever thee first person who can reach him/her/himher tells him/her/himher to do. And he/she/heshe was created with a magical, dark, evil, miming ability, which lets him/her/himer mime other people's aactions.
There

Posted by: Sherick 12th June 2004 03:45
About what Dingleberry said, Gogo couldn't be Arny because Gogo's only 5'5, Schwartzinegger is way over 6' tall. And no one ever said that Gogo had a muscular build. And what's the eye deal? I never saw any similarity. Maybe that's just me.
And "That Guy", uh, not quite.

But I must say that l)arkshadow's way seems cool. Very, very different, but somewhat cool.

Posted by: Wish_Hacker 14th June 2004 16:22
i think Gogo is Kefia but the good part of him dont kefia look posated i think its kefia but he hids hes face from people becase of the thangs he done o ya and he also looks alot like the Special Aeon on FF8 gilmshis shifty.gif

Posted by: Rangers51 14th June 2004 16:25
Quote (Wish_Hacker @ 14th June 2004 12:22)
i think Gogo is Kefia but the good part of him dont kefia look posated i think its kefia but he hids hes face from people becase of the thangs he done shifty.gif

And, since you can have Gogo in your party to fight Kefka, what exactly does that mean to your "theory?"

Posted by: Figaro 14th June 2004 16:32
I tend to stay away from this topic, but I'll briefly give my personal theory. I was going to write a fanfic for the contest for this character, but I never found time enough.

I say that Gogo is the "G'ho, customers! Need any refreshents?" guy. I'll leave it up to your imagination as to how he became Gogo. Think about it.

Posted by: Wish_Hacker 14th June 2004 16:34
well he may have spile it to 2 people the good one and the bad one then again the same thang kinda happends on ff7 or the spirit of Kefia.....

Posted by: SilverFork 14th June 2004 17:29
Gogo's probably just one of those random guys who...
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falls between the cracks in the earth when it splits during the apocalypse.


Or maybe Gogo...




IS PEOPLE!!

Seriously, I believe the boring though most likely theory that Gogo is simply Gogo.

Posted by: Sherick 14th June 2004 17:43
Quote (Rangers51 @ 14th June 2004 11:25)
Quote (Wish_Hacker @ 14th June 2004 12:22)
i think Gogo is Kefia but the good part of him dont kefia look posated i think its kefia but he hids hes face from people becase of the thangs he done shifty.gif

And, since you can have Gogo in your party to fight Kefka, what exactly does that mean to your "theory?"

I've heard of a theory like that, in some earlier topic like this, though it was very complex and hard to explain. I'll try

Upon the destruction of Earth, Kefka found that there would be danger for him (this may also have been just before the party gets to the Tower, either way) some he leaves the Tower, heads for a very remote island, and goes to the one place you'd never suspect him of being, while everyone believes he's in his Tower.
But when the party finds him, he plays the good-guy act and comes up with a simple name, "Gogo."
Now you ask, what about the Final Battle? Kefka, as Gogo, used some sort a weird power to make the party THINK they were fighting Kefka, so when they "destroyed" him, they though the battle was won. Though the real Kefka would slip away.
Possibly later he could assassinate the whole party ......
I feel a fanfic coming...

Posted by: SilverFork 14th June 2004 17:56
But...Kefka eventually drained the statues and gained control of them, thus becoming the source of all magic (as is mentioned in the Tower). In the end...
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when the Espers and magic disappear
, that would mean he was dead...unless of course the "fake" Kefka or whatever did all of that under the control of Gogo/Kefka, but I don't really see how.

I guess I'm just not imaginative.

Posted by: Shinrin 14th June 2004 20:11
Gogo is just Gogo.. If he was really cefca/kefka he would have killed the party before they killed the fake kefka

Posted by: Wind God Gau 15th June 2004 17:58
I'm going with the Gogo = Gilgamesh theory.

Posted by: KingofFigaro 15th June 2004 18:08
I'd go with the Gogo=Gilgamesh theory if it wasn't for the fact that Gogo only has two arms (and where's his excalipur? happy.gif )

Posted by: Fox 16th June 2004 01:58
I really like l)arkshadow's theory. But i like mine about Gogo being Vincent better. Other possibilities:

Gogo is a robot programmed to mimic.

Gogo is from the future, and also prehaps still a robot.

Gogo is secretly one of the four main characters from FF5.

Gogo is one of the Wariors of Dawn.

Gogo is a Light Warrior (From FF1) who was born too late.

Gogo is a magic talking rock who stole Umaro's brain; thus explaining Gogo being pratically mute and Umaro being stupid.

Gogo is Zero, X, Megaman, Protoman, Roll, or some else from that series. Just because it makes no sense.

I AM GOGO!! In disguise, of course.

Posted by: l)arkShadow 16th June 2004 18:21
One note to you all who think GESTAHL couldn't survive that 3k ft fall from the floating continent: he COULD have survived and fallen into triangle island, because Setzer, Shadow(if you saved him), Relm, Edgar, Sabin etc. etc. fell off the Blackjack which was about 3k ft in the air too, and THEY survived. See, it all does make sense if Gogo was Gestahl, cause Gestahl probably wants revenge on Kefka, haas mad incredible magic skills, and could've gotten eaten by a Zone Eater on the Triangle Island on WoR. (or you can just read GMH's post) I have no idea how he got the clothes, but he could disguise himself as a... mimic so the "Heroes" would let him in to fight Kefka. It all fits in so perfectly :/
That's my "Theory" of how Gogo could be Gestahl, though, I don't believe it smile.gif.
The End

Posted by: Sherick 16th June 2004 18:40
That's the one I ALWAYS believed. He dressed all hodge-podge to disguise himself so that the party would take him in rather than kill him. Like l)arkshadow and Glenn said, he wants revenge on Kefka.

Posted by: Ultros: Octopus Royalty 21st June 2004 17:36
I'm almost beggining to think that Gogo was a charecter that the programmers stuck in there so they could laugh at people trying to figure out if he had any connections to anyone in the game. Curse those evil maniacs...

Hahaha, Although, the Geshtal idea IS something to think about. I never really considered that before.

Posted by: Hamedo 23rd June 2004 19:59
Really, honestly and truly.... I think Gogo is just an extra character in the game with no hidden meanings behind him/her. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory or reason behind every single thing, does there? rolleyes.gif

Posted by: ultimecia 23rd June 2004 20:34
i know who you are gogo.you are gogo,just a gogo,a filler character

Posted by: Wind God Gau 24th June 2004 00:11
Gogo is none other than...
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GOGO!

Posted by: Magicite 25th June 2004 05:55
I don’t think that Gogo is any other character from FF6. I think that Gogo is merely a reappearance of/reference to the Mimic from FF5 (the one who gives you the Mimic job). They look almost exactly alike.

Of the rumored FF6 identities, Daryl is the most probable. She crashed on Triangle Island, and although her ship was found, her body was never mentioned as having been found. However, what little you can see of Gogo’s face makes him look more like a man.

user posted image

Most of the other theories about Gogo’s being General Leo, Banon, etc., are a bit of a stretch for me.

Posted by: GamblingCat 26th June 2004 22:03
I just thought who Gogo could be. he is Vargas, maybe after
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Sabin whupped his butt
, he fled in terror and dcided to be Gogo and learned how to mime from those weird dudes in the cave you get him.

Posted by: Magicite 27th June 2004 06:02
Quote (GamblingCat @ 26th June 2004 17:03)
I just thought who Gogo could be. he is Vargas, maybe after
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Sabin whupped his butt
, he fled in terror and dcided to be Gogo and learned how to mime from those weird dudes in the cave you get him.

Well, there is some doubt as to whether Vargas actually dies. Unless you cheat and do more than 20,000 damage in one character’s turn, he doesn’t die the way other bosses do. (He just expresses surprise that Duncan taught Sabin Pummel, and then Vargas disappears.)

Posted by: Raven 2nd July 2004 01:29
Quote (Snoopyboy @ 28th February 2004 12:49)
Let's see, there are several possibilities of who Gogo is.


I always kinda had my own theory that Gogo was Relm's mother...Of course, the only thing I had going for that was that Gogo had the same colour scheme as Relm and Strago, and that he/she used staffs as his/her base weapon. But it's highly unlikely that Square would have put in evidence of Shadow being Relm's father, and not dropping the slightest hint abou her mother. Good lord, I must have some other base for that theory....yeesh.

More logically, Gogo was just some dude who hung out in a cave. As it always appeared....

Posted by: Raven 2nd July 2004 01:48
Quote (Sherick @ 11th June 2004 22:45)
About what Dingleberry said, Gogo couldn't be Arny because Gogo's only 5'5, Schwartzinegger is way over 6' tall. And no one ever said that Gogo had a muscular build. And what's the eye deal? I never saw any similarity. Maybe that's just me.
And "That Guy", uh, not quite.


*Grins* I love how quickly you took that theory down, with full seriousness and all...

Posted by: Leap 6th July 2004 03:36
actually.... i read somewhere that Gogo has the possibility of being Darryl.... which is actually possible.... as Setzer said they found the Falcons wreck a year later.... he would have added about darryls body if it was also found, yet the possibility of it being decomposed is high.... i still think it may be darryl because the wreck of the falcon could have been on that triangular island and darryl could have gotten amnesia that had never healed from it and been sucked up by a zone eater, and found scraps of clothing, shrouding herself in it

Posted by: Tryscal ThedGreat 7th July 2004 22:23
Quote
Really, honestly and truly.... I think Gogo is just an extra charactertin the game with no hidden meanings behind him/her. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory or reason behind every sinvle thing, does there?




My thoughts ex%ctly.

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 12th July 2004 02:49
there are a few things that i think are odd about the game to begin with i will make these points then go into to gogo,

First: when you are fighting your way on to the floating content i think its setzer thats says lets JUMP onto that thing, and if indeed they did jump on it how come the black jack is below the island when you land.

Second: the serpant trench is much more curved and such when you ride in it with gau how come its straight when it submerges from the water.

Thrid: locke is said to of been looking for the pheniox in one town a guy was saying something about him looking for the ledgendary treasure to revive souls or something, and it gives no mention on how he gets to a place that can only be entered from the air let alone how her survives with all those mosters in there.

Fourth: this is one that puzzles even me if you talk to gasthuls(for give me if spelled his name wrong) it talks about the star shaped mountan range where his treasure was hidden, how could locke have known where it was and how to get there unless he talked to him?

Fifth: Gashtul could have not fully hit the ground at first he could have landed on the deck of the black jack and fell just like the other and survived that way.

but the one thing that puzzles me more and more about that game is this one fact. gogo can mimic magic,blitz,swordtechs,tools, and everything els. so here goes my theory.

Gogo could be daryl cause of this reason or gashtul for this reason: as you have mention gogoleft into another demision, could i be possible that he had another mime crystle that he lost while he was travleing to that demension that happened to apper on that island, if you think about it that would make sense as to how the power was obtained by the person, or that gogo was that crystal and possesed one of the two people to right some wrong that had happened but also to help that person get a second chance at something. as for the zone eater part it is quite possible that the zone eater isnt really a monster at all but an illusion to hide a portal into another diamention i mean dont you think its odd that a creature like that would have such a huge cave inside of it? that is my theroy let me know what you think.

Posted by: GamblingCat 13th July 2004 22:06
My newest thought of who Gogo is, he is really the Missing Esper in the blank on the Menu Screen, he is a esper that i7 a party member that can use abilitys o' the other party members. Or he is a Imperial Soldier in disguise.

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 13th July 2004 22:10
*shrugs* my theory still stands with me anyways

Posted by: SuperManBoy 16th July 2004 02:30
What if he was a Goomba?

Posted by: Sherick 16th July 2004 02:36
I've never seen a 5'5 goomba

Posted by: SuperManBoy 16th July 2004 02:53
There was the Goomba King in Paper Mario, which is also a very clever RPG, but in a different league of its own. Oh yeah, and the large Goombas in Mario 64.

I think that the theory of Gogo being Darryl is the most clever and fitting. Did the Japanese version of the game add anything to the Gogo scenario? And how does the Japanese version tie into all those extra rare items?

Posted by: Mike 16th July 2004 09:46
Quote (Yuki Usagi @ 20th May 2004 16:26)
What about Relm's mother? If she wasn't actually dead. "Sketch" is copying a monster's random attack and "Mimic" is copying an ally's previous attack. They're not that different. Maybe Gogo is related to the Blue Mages in Thamasa?

"Gogo" in Japanese means "afternoon" - maybe because you can't get Gogo until late in the game? "Go" is also Japanese for "five". Does 55 have any significance? 5+5?

Really though I think asking "who is Gogo" is like asking "who is Mog". Mog is just Mog. He's a Moogle. Just like Gogo is just Gogo, a Mimic. I think he's just there to be a fun character to find. He's the most secret of the secret characters because he's never seen or mentioned in the game unless you find him. If he'd had more of a backstory that tied into the rest of the game then there might have been hints about him that would have made him less of a secret.

I will just take this theory about Relm's mom dying...okay stick with me here...Relm's mom died because Shadow is a ninja (assassin) who incidentally has the WWF championship belt. Shadow killed her because he's a ninja and she just plain annoyed him to no end. That's the end of that.

As for Gogo, yes go is japenese for 5 (I will exclude afternoon for evening which is more convenient). But what I find odd about the name now that you mention it is that 5+5=10.

10 is also binary for 2. So the name just seems to be all inclusive. 2 instances of go. Or if you wanna go even farther you can take it as 5*5=25, which can be broken down to either 2+5=7, indicating completion (the number 7) as he was the final character added into the game (I'm just taking a liberty there) or 2*5=10, which loops back to the binary. Our last two bits are 5/5=1 and 5-5=0, which if you cram them together become 10. Binary again.

As for who Gogo really is, there is really no conclusive evidence as to if he is any character mentioned in the game. Sure Gogo could be Daryl, sure Gestahl (but I think the point there is that he died). He could be anybody that your imagination desires or he could be none of those people.

In the end I think he was just a character that was added in just to be a secret. And also to drive theorists crazy.

Posted by: Figaro 16th July 2004 11:31
I know this doesn't mean much, but Gogo's official height is 5'5, and as Yuki Usagi pointed out, "Go" is Japanese for "five". So, essentially:

Gogo = fivefive = 55, or 5'5

Nothing much, but it seems an odd connection.

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 17th July 2004 20:43
hmm i have noticed that gogo looks surpiseingly like those gaurds in vector that greet you when you enter after the espers flee the gate, could it be one of them, maybe they hung up there weapons in another way? though i dont know anything about there pallet so i dont know if there are any simalarities. maybe infact gogo is a mutant robot zombie from the future who came to the past to take it over and knows that these guys will beat the only person who could stand in his way. however unlikely that sounds....

Posted by: SabinFigaro 22nd July 2004 10:51
L O L
I agree GoGo is to powerfull to actuallybe of that time tongue.gif

Now seriously
I always like to think GoGo was Daryll...... never thought why, only thought that because my sis thought so tongue.gif

Maybe GoGo is really just a character added to have Mimic in the game (wich is kinda like Cid and Bomb.... they always appear) and then thy thought hey we had GoGo protect Mimic in FFV why not give him that name and update his sprite a little?

Posted by: Sabin37 1st August 2004 01:31
Gogo could be Emperor Gestahl after he got pushed off the floating island. Gestahl was a strong character because he did Merton and stuff to Kefka, so it would be understandable for him to have an ability like mimic...or maybe Gogo is just Gogo.

Posted by: SuperManBoy 2nd August 2004 04:36
I don't know if this has already been brought up since I am too lazy to read 6 pages of posts but: Gogo can't be Daryl.

If you go to her tomb after getting the Falcon, and talk to the monument at the end it says "DARYL SLEEPS HERE."

Posted by: Tryscal The Great 2nd August 2004 22:59
Yeah, Daryl is dead and buried. Sheesh. Why do people still use that therory of Gogo being Daryl, when she is very much dead?

Posted by: Sherick 2nd August 2004 23:06
Quote (SuperManBoy @ 1st August 2004 23:36)
I don't know if this has already been brought up since I am too lazy to read 6 pages of posts but: Gogo can't be Daryl.

If you go to her tomb after getting the Falcon, and talk to the monument at the end it says "DARYL SLEEPS HERE."

It has also been discussed that just because a sign says it, doesn't nesicarily mean she is dead and buried. I can't imagine why, but it could be possible that the grave is fake, and Daryll is really alive.
Like someone is trying to cover something up by just saying that. Your guess

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 3rd August 2004 00:08
Quote (Sherick @ 2nd August 2004 18:06)
It has also been discussed that just because a sign says it, doesn't nesicarily mean she is dead and buried. I can't imagine why, but it could be possible that the grave is fake, and Daryll is really alive.
Like someone is trying to cover something up by just saying that. Your guess

An in game conspiricy? why would some one want to cover up the fact that she is still alive?

Posted by: Onion Kid 3rd August 2004 01:49
Could you please elaborate in great detail upon this scene between Setzer and Gogo on the airship?

Posted by: The Ancient 3rd August 2004 04:06
Quote (SuperManBoy @ 1st August 2004 23:36)
I don't know if this has already been brought up since I am too lazy to read 6 pages of posts but: Gogo can't be Daryl.

If you go to her tomb after getting the Falcon, and talk to the monument at the end it says "DARYL SLEEPS HERE."

Actually I think the game makes it quite clear she isn't buried there...Setzer didn't find the body. Not that I support the Daryl theory...but I'm just saying.

Posted by: SilverFork 3rd August 2004 04:35
It mentions the wrecked Falcon being recovered, but if I remember correctly it never says he didn't find her body.

Also, as has already been pointed out, it's a bit hard for the deceased to 'rest' or 'sleep' somewhere if their body isn't buried in that specified place. Judging by the epitaph, the monument clearly looks to be a headstone, indicating that she's indeed dead. Well, it seems that way to me anyway...

Posted by: ziegfried 3rd August 2004 19:34
Quote (SilverFork @ 2nd August 2004 23:35)
It mentions the wrecked Falcon being recovered, but if I remember correctly it never says he didn't find her body.

Also, as has already been pointed out, it's a bit hard for the deceased to 'rest' or 'sleep' somewhere if their body isn't buried in that specified place. Judging by the epitaph, the monument clearly looks to be a headstone, indicating that she's indeed dead. Well, it seems that way to me anyway...

I know that i'm a new member but i just want to say that I think that gogo is who you make of him , he could be the brother of kefka wacko.gif ,or he could be the gogo from ff5 , he could even be a dead zombie who louks revenge on kefka caus kefka has destroyd the town of mobliz and manny people whit that town. So like I said gogo is ho you make of him.

Posted by: Sherick 3rd August 2004 20:14
Typos galore tongue.gif.
That IS basically what Gogo is, an Easter Egg from Square for players to decide on. But what fun is that? That is a perfect way to kill a topic.

Uh, anyway, about the Daryll headstone, just because it SAYS it, doesn't mean she necissarily IS there. Gotta think about these things

Posted by: Wind God Gau 3rd August 2004 21:25
That be a truth. If you were in an airship wreck, what do you think the odds of your body being recovered are? Even if Darryl really IS in there, she's most likely just a toe or something! But the rest... could be gogo! The robes would hide the hideous scarring!

Posted by: Locke_Cole 4th August 2004 04:07
No, no I'm sure of it... it must be... yes, its Testper. Gogo = Testper

Posted by: DarrylAGogo 4th August 2004 17:49
My reasons for thinking Darryl is Gogo

1: Darryl's ship crashes on the very island where you find Gogo

2: Darryl's ship was recovered, not her body (so the dead and buried thing is no
good)

3: (This one is the kicker for me) In a cutscene with Setzer, he mentions that
DARRYL DID GOOD IMPRESSIONS OF OTHER PEOPLE. Like mimicing? Anybody?

4: We also hear that Darryl was vain. As in, couldn't stand to have oher people
see a scarred body so she covers herself in clothes and robes.

While I realize that even with all this, it's not as blatant as, say the Shadow/Realm connection, that relationship at least tells us that the game has relationships without in-game confirmations. Put all that evidence together, and you get more of a coherent storyline than you do with Gogo being anybody else.

One thing about the "gogo is gogo" idea. It's a good theory (bit of a cop-out, if you ask me), but every other character in the game, Mog, Umaro, everybody, is given a little SOMETHING of a story. Mog is part of a non-human society, Umaro is taken care of by Mog, the point is that everybody who's in your group joins because they have some REASON for joining. Gogo? Well, maybe she recognizes Setzer, and joins to be near him.

As for why she doesn't reveal herself to be Darryl when she sees Setzer, well, I think a little amnesia isn't too much to ask for somebody who's gone through what she's gone through.

Posted by: Sherick 4th August 2004 18:03
Whoa. That's basically every fact that could link that theory. That's why I rather believe that one.
Another thing, there's a rumored cutscene between Setzer and Gogo at the Ending (though its just that, a rumour) .
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As for why she doesn't reveal herself to be Darryl when she sees Setzer, well, I think a little amnesia isn't too much to ask for somebody who's gone through what she's gone through
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Setzer also said that she was (what did he say? I'll just say) rather stubborn. So she was probably so ashamed of her accident that she didn't want to reveal herself even to her bf.

Posted by: SuperManBoy 4th August 2004 21:19
Where do you see all these cut scenes? Or am I forgetting something from the part at her "tomb?"

Posted by: Rangers51 4th August 2004 21:39
Quote (Sherick @ 4th August 2004 14:03)
Whoa. That's basically every fact that could link that theory. That's why I rather believe that one.

Don't "facts" usually require some "proof?" I don't recall any of the things said there in my game.

Posted by: Djibriel 4th August 2004 21:50
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I don't recall any of the things said there in my game.


That's not surprising at all, since it's not anywhere in the game.


Posted by: Rangers51 4th August 2004 21:53
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I don't recall any of the things said there in my game.


That's not surprising at all, since it's not anywhere in the game.

Precisely my point. smile.gif

Posted by: Sherick 4th August 2004 23:17
Okay, they weren't proven facts, but I think you can get the idea

Posted by: Kefka's Shadow 8th August 2004 00:31
As many people do, I registered for one post, than go on and post more. I have a unique theory, I think. I belive that when Kefka tried to become "God" he expelled all of the good from his body to become one evil mother, well you know. And the good turned into another person - Gogo. Kefka at first was amazed at Gogo, but when Kefka found that Gogo's heart was pure he sent him to Triangle Island to be consumed by the mighty monster's that lived there. Gogo was soon engulfed by a Zone Eater and knowing that it was useless to try to escape the island lived out his days untill the hero's find him. He says "I have been idle for too long" because the pure side of Kefka hasn't had much work since who knows when. I know it sounds a quite a bit like the Dragon Ball Z Kami/Picciolo thing, but that's my theory about who Gogo really is!

Posted by: SuperManBoy 8th August 2004 00:58
What if Gogo is an imp that had imp cast on it??? ohmy.gif

Posted by: Apocalypse Zack 8th August 2004 01:16
Let's see here. Here's some possibilities...

Dora The Explorer - Nah, Gogo seems too old. tongue.gif

Blue's Clues - No...Gogo ain't a dog. tongue.gif

Big Bird - Nope...but it's father probably is. laugh.gif

OK, seriously.

Perhaps Gogo is Gesthal? As someone in this thread said, if he wanted to help the Returners, he would have to change his identity, and he could have changed...but, that's just me.

Posted by: SuperManBoy 8th August 2004 01:25
But Terra and (especially) Celes didn't change their identities. wink.gif

Gesthal makes the most sense I suppose to me though...

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 8th August 2004 14:58
gogo must be some one of great importance though cause he said he was being worshiped or something like that so i guess the kefka or geshtal theroies could be valid. but is there anyone els in the game that would of been worship and lost. this could be a strang theroy and doesnt fit if you save shadow but what if gogo is indeed shadow but everyone though he died on the floating content, and then with his pride slashed he decied to go into hideing but still wanted to help, so he took the time to learn the art of mimicery? i dont know i just think its a bit odd that both him and shadow have only a few lines in the entire end of the game. but thats just me.

Posted by: Powerofblack 8th August 2004 16:50
i can tell how final fantasy games are set up

Final Fantasy 1 Japan
Final Fantasy 2 Japan
Final Fantasy 3 Japan Final Fantasy 1 USA
Final Fantasy 4 Japan Final Fantasy 2 USA
Final Fantasy 5 Japan Final Fantasy 5 USA
Final Fantasy 6 Japan Final Fantasy 3 USA
Final Fantasy 7 Japan & USA
Final Fantasy 8 Japan & USA
Final Fantasy 9 Japan & USA
Final Fantasy 10 Japan & USA
Final Fantasy 10-2 Japan & USA
Final Fantasy 11 Japan & USA

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Posted by: Sherick 8th August 2004 17:02
LockeAlterEgo, that is a good theory, though it couldn't be Shadow, for he can survive the Continent if you wait for him. Making it impossible for him to be both Shadow and Gogo at once. Sry tongue.gif

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Posted by: Mentalchaos128 13th August 2004 02:37
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What if Gogo is an imp that had imp cast on it???


Of all the attempts at explaining things, this one seems to be the only one with any promise. eh.gif And it's mildly funny, too! happy.gif

Posted by: Wind God Gau 13th August 2004 04:27
Quote (Kefka's Shadow @ 7th August 2004 19:31)
As many people do, I registered for one post, than go on and post more. I have a unique theory, I think. I belive that when Kefka tried to become "God" he expelled all of the good from his body to become one evil mother, well you know. And the good turned into another person - Gogo. Kefka at first was amazed at Gogo, but when Kefka found that Gogo's heart was pure he sent him to Triangle Island to be consumed by the mighty monster's that lived there. Gogo was soon engulfed by a Zone Eater and knowing that it was useless to try to escape the island lived out his days untill the hero's find him. He says "I have been idle for too long" because the pure side of Kefka hasn't had much work since who knows when. I know it sounds a quite a bit like the Dragon Ball Z Kami/Picciolo thing, but that's my theory about who Gogo really is!

This has got to be the most sensible theory I have read.

Posted by: Mentalchaos128 13th August 2004 14:36
Good story! happy.gif thumbup.gif

Posted by: SuperManBoy 14th August 2004 15:20
Another point how Daryl is likely not Gogo:

Lets say her tomb is empty, don't you think that there would have at least been another cut scene where Setzer tries to find the body? I mean, if he would completely restore the airship to operating conditions, you would think that he would have put both souls to rest by actually finding Daryl, or "evidence" of her anyway.

Posted by: eternalsphere 14th August 2004 15:35
Here's what I think:

It could not have been Emperor Ghesthal. I don't care what you say, but no noe could've survived that fall,especially when they're wounded (Kefka hits him with magic before kicking him off). Then there's Daryl. Likely, but not really. First of all, Setzer would've been able to recognize Daryl, and he hasnt' done that. Second, some people think so because her remains were never found at her airship crash site, which is most likely Triangle Island. I think that her body was sucked out of the airship while it was crashing and thrown into the sea, thus removing any trace of her. It also coun not have been either of them because Gogo said that he was waiting a long time, but he says it in a way which makes you think that hes really old.

Anyway, down to the point: I think that Gogo is just Gogo, and that the developers created him without an identity in mind. So thats my theory.

Posted by: necromancer's creep 15th August 2004 02:07
i think gogo is a phantom extravied from the ghost train!!!

Posted by: ziegfried 18th August 2004 20:39
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i think gogo is a phantom extravied from the ghost train!!!

this is an interresting story maybey it is a ghost who got kicked of the train cause he was
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playing a little game called I'm a terrorist
or
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he is falled of the part of the train that was cut off

Posted by: SuperManBoy 19th August 2004 00:40
Okay, my old theory refined:

Someone somewhere was fighting an imp. They either cast "Imp" or used a green cherry on them out of pure spite and mischeiviousness.

When the smoke setteled.... a BDay Suit appeares and runs off in complete embarrassment. Since actual imps have no skills themselves, just like Gau the "Imp" found a way to "mimic" the skills of others.

The rest, is history. smile.gif

Posted by: Sezter The Last Gambler 19th August 2004 16:38
I think Gogo is Faris (FFV). She was very touchy about being a woman, and she's the type that would bundle herself in all those rags to hide that. Also, Gogo can equip certain female-only items, so he *can't* be Gestahl or Adlai Stevenson. He could be the imp, though...

Posted by: Bum Rush 20th August 2004 04:07
gogo, if anyone, is gogo. i seriously can't belive this topic has lasted for so long

Posted by: Djibriel 20th August 2004 11:15
Also, Gogo can equip certain female-only items

Care to give the board some proof of that?

Posted by: Sezter The Last Gambler 20th August 2004 14:33
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Also, Gogo can equip certain female-only items

Care to give the board some proof of that?


*Stares at shoes* Um... uh... not really. I just restarted my game, and I'm not to the WOR yet, but last time around, I had pressed Optimum and some girly stuff was equipped to Gogo.

Posted by: Djibriel 20th August 2004 14:39
No, that wasn't a skirt. That was a kilt.

You're probably thinking of stuff like the Light Robe/Tao Robe, equipment that is next-to-useless. Strago and Relm are the other people who can wear it next to Gogo, so it's not really girly stuff. Girly stuff would be Minerva, Mystery Veil, Czarina Ring, etc.


Posted by: SPARTAN-029 20th August 2004 16:04
Did you all just do your homework in the dark or not at all. These all seem like theories to me, rather than actual ideas, or bit of information researched on the web...I, at this point, have no such 'theory' to offer...still gathering info and researching topic data. I'll check back later.

Posted by: Sezter The Last Gambler 20th August 2004 16:29
No... wait! I got it! It's General Leo's ghost, possessing a bag of laundry, transforming him into the ULTIMATE BAD-A! Ta-da! I won!

Posted by: SuperManBoy 20th August 2004 16:49
lol, I concede my "imp" theory. Good work.

Posted by: ziegfried 20th August 2004 19:08
leo's ghost possesing a bag of laundrey? I rather take an imp

Posted by: SuperManBoy 20th August 2004 21:06
lol, hey, at least you can get him then!

Posted by: Rangers51 20th August 2004 23:08
It seems to me that this really has become a "post a stupid theory for extra postcount" thread. It's not really a discussion anymore. So, we'll give it another day or two and if it doesn't get better we'll close it and start warning people who post new ones. Sound fun?

Posted by: BrandonLandon 23rd August 2004 00:33
I'm sort of partial to the Gogo / Kefka thing, so here's what I think... I find a striking similarity to Mote's world in Breath Of Fire, to the WOR in FF3. Mote was pretty much in control of his little world he had, as was Kefka at the point where you meet him before he makes the world go Kaboom and made the WOR. When you finally get to the end of Mote's world you have to challenge him, and Mote's Conscience shows up to help you defeat him. So I'm suggesting, when the WOB was destroyed and the WOR was created, Kefka's Conscience seperated from him and was personified in Gogo. Many of you probably wonder if Kefka even had a Conscience. I for one think he did. When you talk to the dude in Vector in the cafe, he says that Kefka was alright but lost it when Cid tinkered with him, since he was the first of Cid's experiments in infusing people with magic drawn from espers, and the process wasn't perfected yet. So his conscience was in him, it was just hidden under all the lunacy that took over his mind. It's not that hard to believe, I mean Piccolo seperated from Kamei in DBZ. It's not even close to the same circumstances, but you know, Kefka needed everything good out of him to be totally twisted enough to destroy the world. I don't know, I'll stop now before someone attacks me :-x

In a more serious approach, if its not Kefka or some variation/alter-ego/twin/bizzaro of sorts, I don't think it could possibly be anybody else that you've met in the WOB, and Gogo is just who she/he is; possible knight of the previous war of the Magi, or random mime. No one really has a motive a hide their identity, except for possibly Emperor Gestahl. I know this was said before but it wouldn't be smart of him to buddy up with everybody because they wouldn't trust him, so he'd have to hide his identity so he could seek his own little revenge on the Kefka. But I seriously doubt it. I mean he didn't survive the fall. He's an old man, and Gogo doesn't know the spell float when you get him, so that's not gonna save his behind. Shadow could survive the fall though. I mean he's a ninja sorta guy, he could surf interceptor down to the surface or whatever other crafty thing he could come up with.

And completely off topic, I thought Shadow and Relm were bro/sis?

Posted by: axysp 29th August 2004 20:52
Gogo is...... SIEGFRIED~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is that possible?

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 30th August 2004 02:18
just let this topic die.

Posted by: SilverFork 3rd September 2004 12:26
I still believe Gogo is simply Gogo, but I'm all for reading sensible theories that state otherwise. Also, something just dawned on me...

A little while back at Nuklear Power, one of the Ask Red Mage or whatever topics was about Gogo's identity. Someone brought up an interesting point: Edgar (Gerad) was able to lead the band of thieves because, according to one of the bandits, their old "boss" had an unfortunate run-in with a sandworm. Now, we know absolutely nothing about these guys' former leader, so whether or not he/she could mimic or had an eccentric taste in clothing can't be proven one way or another. This sandworm may have very well been the Zone Eater (who says it has to stay on Triangle Island? It could burrow under the ocean floor) and Gogo could be the ol' head thief! We also don't know how long ago this happened, so he/she could have still been idle for too long.

As for my thoughts: The mention of their old boss and the sandworm does sound familiar. I kept reminding myself to confirm whether or not it's actually said (and I'm pretty sure one thief does say something to that effect anyway), but I stupidly forgot during my last playthrough. I think it's a plausible theory, although I'm not buyin' it. Just figured I'd add it to the rumor mill.

Posted by: ziegfried 4th September 2004 19:34
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Gogo is...... SIEGFRIED~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is that possible?

hey!!! don't insult him!!!

Posted by: Blackmages 5th September 2004 08:22
GOGOS EVERYONE AND EVERYWHERE WHEN U DIE U BECOME A GOGO!!! THATS THE ONLY ANSWER SIEGFRIED REALLY DIED WHY ELSE WAS HIS IMPERSonaTOR ON THE PHANTOM TRAIN OR ALL THESE OTHER "IMPERSONATERS" BECAUSE THEYRE ALL DEAD.

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Posted by: Neal 24th July 2011 21:02
Shrouded in odd clothing... is this a man...? ...a woman...? ...or should we ask...?

A mystery that has no true answer and cannot actually be solved, who could Gogo actually be? Has anything turned up in the last seven years that could shed new light on the discussion? Probably not, but here's trying.

Posted by: Lord Bob Bree 13th August 2011 02:30
Gogo is Gau's mother. Somehow or other, his father fell in love with a Slam Dancer (which are monsters, not humans. They are, however, skilled at mimicking humans). Eventually, they had Gau. It was an exhausting birth, and she fell unconcious afterward. His father though she was dead, and tried to bury her, but broke down. Returning to the house, he noticed that Gau appeared somewhat monster-like, and threw him out into the wild.

Later, the Slam Dancer recovered and returned to the house, only to find that the man had gone crazy and didn't recognize her. Saddened, she covered herself with all those robes and stuff, and went into hiding.

Posted by: TheEvilEye 30th October 2011 04:07
On my current ongoing playthrough, this question got me thinking. So here's my take on Gogo's presence in FF6:


Gogo was either unsealed when Kefka moved the statues on the Floating Continent, or a byproduct of the resulting magical explosion. When Kefka tossed Emperor Gestahl off the side of the floating continent and moved the statues, the resulting chaos created many phenomena. While Shadow pincered Kefka between the statues to buy some time, we see magic bursts flying from the statues. One of the bursts landed to the east, creating/unsealing Nerapa, whom the party must battle to successfully flee from the devastation. This could mean that other such entities may also have flown out from the statues, and not all of them may be malevolent. After we "escape" on the airship (or it is broken in half by the chaos), we see several scenes of other bursts of magic flying all over the world.

http://youtu.be/5oywecZc0kY?t=4m9s

At around that time in the video, you see two bursts of energy fly out from the statues, one of which we follow to its destructive landing on an island. The other burst of energy, we do not directly see its path. I submit that this entity, or one of the other energies flying out of the statues, is Gogo, similarly to how Nerapa came out of the statues. Gogo landed on Triangle Island, and at some point over the course of the year, wound up in the belly of a Zone Eater. It certainly isn't unheard of, considering Doom Gaze, Phunbaba and the 8 Dragons were all unsealed in the aftermath.

1) Being a creature of magic, its form is likely not quite human, so it must wrap itself in garments and whatever it could find to appear human to those who might discover it and offer assistance.

2) It aids the party to bring the world back into balance (similarly to Geno in Super Mario RPG coming to help repair the stars), knowing its existence is an aberration of magic.

3) Its ability to mimic comes from the statues. What else could possess such great power to be able to perform all of the strongest abilities of the world's greatest heroes?

4) Gogo cannot equip espers. It would seem that beings born of magic cannot be infused with the power of the espers (Terra being half-human can still use them). Umaro also cannot use espers, but I chalk that up to his nature being much more feral/wild than the rest, shown by his uncontrollable nature in a battle.

5) Gogo is not seen at all during the World of Balance. He is the only playable character not seen in any form or at any time for this part of the game. Even Umaro is visible at the mines of narshe, peeking his head out that cave when you're chasing Lone Wolf and pick up Mog.

Anyways, just thought this idea was fun to toss around. smile.gif

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 30th October 2011 12:55
Quote (TheEvilEye @ 29th October 2011 23:07)
On my current ongoing playthrough, this question got me thinking. So here's my take on Gogo's presence in FF6:


Gogo was either unsealed when Kefka moved the statues on the Floating Continent, or a byproduct of the resulting magical explosion. When Kefka tossed Emperor Gestahl off the side of the floating continent and moved the statues, the resulting chaos created many phenomena. While Shadow pincered Kefka between the statues to buy some time, we see magic bursts flying from the statues. One of the bursts landed to the east, creating/unsealing Nerapa, whom the party must battle to successfully flee from the devastation. This could mean that other such entities may also have flown out from the statues, and not all of them may be malevolent. After we "escape" on the airship (or it is broken in half by the chaos), we see several scenes of other bursts of magic flying all over the world.

http://youtu.be/5oywecZc0kY?t=4m9s

At around that time in the video, you see two bursts of energy fly out from the statues, one of which we follow to its destructive landing on an island. The other burst of energy, we do not directly see its path. I submit that this entity, or one of the other energies flying out of the statues, is Gogo, similarly to how Nerapa came out of the statues. Gogo landed on Triangle Island, and at some point over the course of the year, wound up in the belly of a Zone Eater. It certainly isn't unheard of, considering Doom Gaze, Phunbaba and the 8 Dragons were all unsealed in the aftermath.

1) Being a creature of magic, its form is likely not quite human, so it must wrap itself in garments and whatever it could find to appear human to those who might discover it and offer assistance.

2) It aids the party to bring the world back into balance (similarly to Geno in Super Mario RPG coming to help repair the stars), knowing its existence is an aberration of magic.

3) Its ability to mimic comes from the statues. What else could possess such great power to be able to perform all of the strongest abilities of the world's greatest heroes?

4) Gogo cannot equip espers. It would seem that beings born of magic cannot be infused with the power of the espers (Terra being half-human can still use them). Umaro also cannot use espers, but I chalk that up to his nature being much more feral/wild than the rest, shown by his uncontrollable nature in a battle.

Anyways, just thought this idea was fun to toss around. smile.gif

I dont think there is a lot of evidence to support that theory. For one Gogo says that they have been worshiped (i believe) for far to long and it's time they were to help fix the world. For a long time now i've been working on a theory for both gogo and umaro that they may infact of been espers themselves. While umaro doesn't display natural magic, it could be that he's some kind of esper hybrid that magic was incompatible with.That or it could be that he's been where he was at for so long he's forgotten how to use magic and had to not use it for fear of being exposed. I conjecture this for a couple of reasons, one he cant use Espers which makes sense if he's and Esper. Two you get two powerful espers durning the time you can get him. It is possible that terrato was a friend of umaros that succumed to death and that he was keeping the magicite in honor of his fallen friend. Tritoch was frozen in ice by unknown means and for unknown reasons, it's possible that umaro was to watch over his other friend, but after being in such a harsh climate for so long and not being able to use his magic he could of gone feral and thus forgot his mission. The moogles very possibly could of reconised his latent abilities and decided it would be a good idea for him to help them rather than have him wreak destruction upon him. I also think gogo may be some kind of an esper. Ramha says something about espers being able to disguise themselves as humans. This would allow gogo to have emmense powers while still seeming human. The shrouds could be to hid they're horns or something else that may give them away as an esper that they may not of been able to hide for some reason. This would explain gogo's abilities and the fact that he cant equip magicite as well. It is possible that if both are infact espers in special circumstances that what made them unique (i.e umaro not knowing magic, and gogo's mimicry)
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could have over time erroded there DNA enough to cause them to stay alive while magic is being destroyed.
As far as i can see this would explain both of them almost entirely. Especially because of umaro's human like figure but beastial form.

Posted by: arcterious 30th October 2011 14:18
I didn't read much but how is banon Duncan? Sabin explained that he's his master and clearly he didn't say a word to banon. Also on an old ass comment. Saying kefka isn't gogo doesn't make sense. They explained that the kefka you fight is a fake. It can't be Gilgamesh since you can fight him in the Colosseum in the gba version. Other than those points I can't really think of anything else.

Posted by: TheEvilEye 30th October 2011 15:02
To Lockes AlterEgo, I do not recall him saying he has been worshipped before. From what I remember, he only mentions that he has been there a "long time". Well, being cooped up inside a monster would make any length of time seem like a long time to me, too! Anyways, Umaro tangent aside, you're mostly agreeing with my theory that he is born from magic, even if it wasn't from the Floating Continent.

I also cite the floating continent incident in part because Gogo is also the only playable character that is not seen at all during the entire World of Balance. While many plot characters disappear entirely after the WoR, just about everybody (except people like Duncan, I suppose) is present in the WoB.

Still, these are all just fun ideas to think about anyway, no?

Posted by: finalalias 30th October 2011 19:41
The idea of Gogo being unsealed with the rest of the WOR beasts sounds like as good an explanation as any. The leader of the theif gang is an interesting take too.

I don't understand the whole "Gogo is Kefka" thing, and why it persists , though. For me, it's just too much of a stretch, and doesn't make sense to me why I would want to think that I have on my team an immature, psychopathic slaughterer that hasn't exhibited a shred of goodness in the entire story. Just doesn't sit right with me...

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 31st October 2011 03:11
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I didn't read much but how is banon Duncan?


The only reason the Banon = Duncan rumor exists is because they share a sprite anyway. tongue.gif

@TheEvilEye: I actually really like that theory.

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For one Gogo says that they have been worshiped (i believe) for far to long and it's time they were to help fix the world.


Assuming you're right about this line, it could be that Gogo is some legendary creature that was sealed by the statues' power. And perhaps after being trapped inside that monster, having no great way to keep 'eir skills sharp, and being stuck for a long while, 'ey've come to the conclusion that they ought not to just use 'eir unusual powers for fun or ego-padding but to actually save the world.

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 31st October 2011 05:09
@Glenn magus harvey: first of all long time no see old chum. Second i could be entirely wrong about that line it's been at least 15 years since i last played the woosly translation of the game. So my memory of it may not be as sharp as it should be. but i seem to remember something along those lines.

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 31st October 2011 16:24
Good to see you too!

Yeah, I should probably dig up a Let's Play of FFVI to check.

Here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYZ6HOaBqEQ#t=3m43s (timestamped at where the party enters Gogo's room)

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Narrator: Shrouded in odd clothing,
...is this a man...?
...or a woman...?
...or should we ask...?

[Gogo naming screen]

CREATURE: I am GOGO, master of the simulacrum...

My miming skills will astonish you.

GOGO: Yes...I have been idle for too long. If I deem you worthy, I'll mime your actions in battle.

[Gogo nods.]

But first you must tell me what you're doing here.

[Long pause.  Then, Gogo makes what seems to be an expression of surprise.]

GOGO: What an unusual tale...

But I sense that you're trying to help make things right again.
This should be fun.
When do we leave?

[Gogo walks into the party.]

Posted by: arcterious 31st October 2011 16:38
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I didn't read much but how is banon Duncan?


The only reason the Banon = Duncan rumor exists is because they share a sprite anyway. tongue.gif

@TheEvilEye: I actually really like that theory.

Quote (LockesAlterEgo)
For one Gogo says that they have been worshiped (i believe) for far to long and it's time they were to help fix the world.


Assuming you're right about this line, it could be that Gogo is some legendary creature that was sealed by the statues' power. And perhaps after being trapped inside that monster, having no great way to keep 'eir skills sharp, and being stuck for a long while, 'ey've come to the conclusion that they ought not to just use 'eir unusual powers for fun or ego-padding but to actually save the world.

Since I'm on my phone its hard to delete everything else. Dude, rhetorical question. Not t mention you completely ignored the rest that was actually important. Read the rest.......

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 31st October 2011 16:43
I read the rest of your comment; it was hard for me to discern sarcasm from straight talk so I just replied to one bit of it and went on.

Yes, I know you discussed Gogo's identity. I just had nothing to reply to that part of your comment. Sorry about that, no hard feelings.

Posted by: Spooniest 4th November 2011 07:57
Gogo has no identity. Its identiy can be whatever you want. Identities in this game are determined by what a character can do in battle. It has what you might call a "Closed Job System." Characters have a job, but cannot change jobs. Gogo is the thing that can do what all the other characters can do by itself, so therefore, Gogo is the other 13 party members in one character, albiet with the world's worst stat table that can't be altered with Esper raising, as the only thing it can't do is equip Espers.

Why shouldn't Gogo be able to equip an Esper? That never really made any sense to me. Perhaps it was to display more prominently its Ability to mimic other characters in the party's learned magic?

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 4th November 2011 13:57
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Gogo has no identity. His identiy can be whatever you want. Identities in this game are determined by what a character can do in battle. It has what you might call a "Closed Job System." Characters have a job, but cannot change jobs. Gogo is the thing that can do what all the other characters can do by itself, so therefore, Gogo is the other 13 party members in one character, albiet with the world's worst stat table that can't be altered with Esper raising, as the only thing it can't do is equip Espers.

Why shouldn't Gogo be able to equip an Esper? That never really made any sense to me. Perhaps it was to display more prominently its Ability to mimic other characters in the party's learned magic?

I think the reason for it not being able to equip an esper is because there is no need other than stat raising. You get him in the world of ruin which at that point in the game there isnt a whole lot to do level wise if you've been leveling up right the whole time. Plus gogo has the ability to of learned the accumulated total of magic for all party members. which means if you have one party member with all magic gogo automatically knows all magic. Gogo also has the unique ability to be all characters at once so he doesnt really need the esper augmentation. Finally please refer to my esper theory as it might explain it.

Posted by: Gogo14 5th November 2011 00:27
Probably because he'd be way fucking better than everyone

Posted by: arcterious 6th November 2011 18:52
You say gogo has no identity... so why is gogo being referred to as a he?

Posted by: LilyheartsLightning 6th November 2011 20:19
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You say gogo has no identity... so why is gogo being referred to as a he?

Ease of reference, rather than typing out "s/he" or "it". The text when you encounter Gogo in FFVI alludes to his/her's ambiguous identity: "Shrouded in odd clothing... is this a man...? ...a woman...? ...or should we ask...?"

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Why shouldn't Gogo be able to equip an Esper? That never really made any sense to me. Perhaps it was to display more prominently its Ability to mimic other characters in the party's learned magic?

Characters couldn't "equip" summons in Final Fantasy V, which may be considered in favour of the theory that FFVI's Gogo is the same as the Gogo that appears in FFV. Like Gilgamesh, when Gogo is "defeated" by following his instructions, it throws itself into the Interdimensional Rift. (It also makes sense from a gameplay perspective, as Gogo's low stats are a trade-off for its high versatility.)

The theory of FFVI's Gogo being the same Gogo from FFV holds credence when you consider Gogo's Desperation Attack, X-Meteo/Punishing Meteor, similar to how FFV's Gogo will triple-cast Meteor on the party if its HP gets too low (the party doesn't use the "correct" strategy to defeat it easily).

Posted by: Death Penalty 9th November 2011 23:09
The belief that I've always held (and explored with my only and somewhat unimpressive foray into fanfiction) is that Gogo is a remnant from the War of the Magi.

In my fanfic, the War of the Magi was a lot like Rome during the Empire; a 'world'-wide (known world, that is) civil war in which there were several important generals who ravaged the land, gradually amassing additional power by eliminating the lesser generals. In my story, these generals were called Magi; it was a magical war of course, and each of these generals were particularly 'wise' in the arts of magic. Gogo was one such general, according to my story, whose individual powers far surpassed those of the other Magi. His armies, however, were not so well endowed. Gogo's forces did not grow quite so quickly as those of the other Magi, and so he was defeated in battle.

Upon the defeat of his army, the opposing Magi held a conference to decide what to do with Gogo, who was so powerful that he simply could not die, let alone be killed. Combining their powers, they were able to wipe his mind clean, but they could not eliminate the magical power still very much present in his body (he could not generate the commands himself, but his faculties could still perform them; in short, he could mimic). Realizing then that he was still a great threat if somehow seized by one of the other Magi, the group decided that he must be placed in a secret prison, equipped with several forms of defense, to live in darkness for eternity. (The soldiers that are on the catwalks in Gogo's cave I explained as well: the other Magi placed several guards there, mostly women, and tasked this force with ensuring that there would always be descendants to guard the prison.)

Anyhow, I seem to like the idea; it explains his ability to reproduce any command, explains his odd clothing and his seeming imprisonment. Plus, it ties it all into the War of the Magi, which is neat-o.

I wonder where that fanfic is...

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 29th November 2011 18:35
You wrote a whole fanfic that incorporates the origin of Gogo and the War of the Magi?

I want to see this now.

Posted by: TrueBOSS 29th December 2011 01:40
You know, that letter near the beginning actually sounds a lot like something square would say. I think I'll try and see if theres a cutscene. I doubt it seeing as no one's even tried to have claimed seeing it in awhile but eh. It's a good excuse to play VI again.
Also, has anyone searched the recent rereleases to see if any new content might help say who, if gogo is anyone besides himeself, gogo really is? yet again. I doubt it but I thought I'd be the one who'd ask.

Posted by: reubensmace 25th January 2012 11:16
When i ponder gogos true identity i remember the description when meeting it. "an odd looking creature dressed in shroud"? ive also heard rumors of a secret ending involving setzer and gogo. the best possibilities ive heard thus far are gesthal and daryl.

Posted by: Death Penalty 25th January 2012 19:05
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You wrote a whole fanfic that incorporates the origin of Gogo and the War of the Magi?

I want to see this now.

I can't seem to find it :/

I wrote maybe four FFVI-related fanfics, but I don't think I have the files anymore. I'm fairly certain I have hard copies, though I wouldn't be able to search until I go back home for summer.

Posted by: yelanates 26th January 2012 02:22
Gogo is Gogo, just as Nanaki is Nanaki.

Posted by: reubensmace 26th January 2012 02:34
GOGO IS NANAKI

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 24th February 2012 05:43
New theory, in light of recent happenings in the world of videogames:

That Gogo's a Spy.

Posted by: BlitzSage 24th February 2012 17:11
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New theory, in light of recent happenings in the world of videogames:

That Gogo's a Spy.

That would actually be an awesome plotline, that Gogo was placed there to spy on the team for Kefka or something.

Posted by: Lockes AlterEgo 24th February 2012 19:36
Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?....

on a more serious note i believe it is probably the gogo from FF5 some how werewolf ended up in that world, so it's possible that gogo did too. It might be where they were spit out after there respective roles were done.

Posted by: mertinatron 26th February 2012 15:56
It's General Leo

Expanding on that theory -
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after the team put Leo in the ground
Leo gets swallowed up by a Zone Eater.
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The monsters within this exclusive and unknown cave used Life 2 to revive Leo and nursed him back to health./SPOILER] However he was not as he was before. When [SPOILER]Kefka stabbed him
he infected Leo with his own particular kind of crazy and the only way Leo could retain his sanity was to undergo a special ritual that these mosters performed as a last resort.

Leo regained his sense but at the expense of his memory and his human form, he called himself Gogo because that was his name and he learned to survive in the cave by Mimicing the monsters. Over time this became all he knew. Then a wizard came along and transported him to an island, the wizard could sense Gogo's plight because he was a wizard. He felt sorry for him having never seen the sunlight or the trees or hearing birds tweeting. The feeling of a warm summer's breeze. The wizard did this and enhanced Gogo's mimic abilities so that he may do good, before flying off. (he could fly because he was a wizard)

Gogo didn't have much time to be grateful to the wizard because he was promptly swallowed up by a Zone Eater. Years later the team came along.

Posted by: Glenn Magus Harvey 26th February 2012 22:31
> Years later the team came along

But only about one year passed since Floating Continent catastrophe.

Posted by: No-Name 27th February 2012 02:08
Who is Gogo? BATMAN.

I donno. When I first played the game I didn't think anything of it. There was a special character called Gogo and that was good enough for me. Gogo being a character we know of prior to meeting her/him just gives more questions than answers.

To me Gogo will always be the cool mime character.

Posted by: BlitzSage 27th February 2012 06:24
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[SPOILER]The monsters within this exclusive and unknown cave used Life 2 to revive Leo and nursed him back to health./SPOILER]

I just thought of something that no one states about Fenix Downs. Think about this: in FFVII
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after Aeris's death scene, people always seem to say "just revive her."
They say the same thing about
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Leo's death
. But actually, if you look in the menu bar, when someone's health goes to 0, it says "Wound" not "Death."

Only one item can "actually" revive people.
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The Phoenix Esper revives Rachel after years of being comatose. But even then, she only stays alive (Bee Gees...sorry bout that, don't know what came over me...) for a moment.


This seems to imply that the revive items/spells does not bring people back from death, but it heals debilitating wounds.

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