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Posted by: silakachim 28th March 2010 10:31
Well, the title says it all. What is your favourite E. Skill and why? Or maybe the least favourite and why?

My personal favourite is Angel Whisper. This is because it's a sort of Lifa (I know it's really Life2 but that just doesn't sound right) but you don't have to be dead for it and it cures status ailments aswell. White Wind eat your heart out tongue.gif

Posted by: iSeizmik 28th March 2010 16:22
I have to say my favourite E. Skill is situational.

At Corel Prison, my fav E. Skill is Laser, because you can beast your Limits by manipulating the Death Claws;
Later(Rocket Town etc.) it is Trine, mainly due to it's awesome power at this stage of the game;
By the end of the game I think the best is Dragon Force: sprint shoes+dragon forcex3=decimation of all enemies.

However, if you are doing a low level game then Chocobuckle is a must...9999 damage at level 15, yes please.

Posted by: silakachim 28th March 2010 20:38
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However, if you are doing a low level game then Chocobuckle is a must...9999 damage at level 15, yes please.

Nice, I wanna get it up to 1111 or 2222 and get All Lucky 7s!

Posted by: Dark RAM 1st April 2010 11:47
I believe it's called Beta for it's looks...
big explosion wub.gif

Posted by: iSeizmik 1st April 2010 15:34
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However, if you are doing a low level game then Chocobuckle is a must...9999 damage at level 15, yes please.

Nice, I wanna get it up to 1111 or 2222 and get All Lucky 7s!

I wouldn't bother stopping at 1111 or 2222 in low level games; likelyhood is that you won't reach 9999hp without 4/5 master HP plus materia =]

2222 is excellent for normal/OP games though.

Posted by: mertinatron 2nd April 2010 13:19
Big Guard is the tits but I think Shadow Flare looks the best from memory. I could never be bothered with Chocobunkle, I mean who can stand running away from that many battles for it to become useful? I'd go insane before it became strong enough to take on that big snake.

Posted by: Neal 2nd April 2010 20:18
I always simply enjoyed Matra Magic. It was a fairly inexpensive all-target magic spell, and it was pretty powerful. I always used it to go back to the Mithril Mines and wipe out groups in one round to boost my limit breaks.

Posted by: silakachim 3rd April 2010 17:23
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I'd go insane before it became strong enough to take on that big snake.

Same, but it is fun to do once you've completed the game and are bored, or when you've encountered the Carry Armour eh.gif So it has... ??? Hp, let's go with 20k. Chocobuckle thrice and he's done for!

Posted by: Kane 3rd April 2010 19:29
I've always been a fan of Shadow Flare. I know that it's not the most useful ability one can access through Enemy Skill, but I just think it's cool.

Posted by: silakachim 3rd April 2010 21:14
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I always simply enjoyed Matra Magic.  It was a fairly inexpensive all-target magic spell, and it was pretty powerful.  I always used it to go back to the Mithril Mines and wipe out groups in one round to boost my limit breaks.

I agree with you there. Especially handy if all you do is 9999 to the Midgar Zolom and you need to do about 1k of damage so you can get Beta. Oh, btw, do people pronounce Beta Beeta or Betta?

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Never mind, I am going to start a new topic!

Posted by: SaffireWeapon 4th April 2010 00:03
Restorative

White Wind works wonders before you get your first Ribbon, the ability to heal all status ailments and restoring your HP is very useful.

Defense

Nothings beats the Big Guard

Offense

It has to be Beta for me.

Posted by: silakachim 10th April 2010 10:58
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Offense

It has to be Beta for me.

Really? Not Trine? I suppose it is your opinion though...

Posted by: dustyfloors 16th April 2010 23:42
I like "Matra Magic."
I just always thought it looked really funny with the missiles coming out of the casters back.

What I use the most is probably "Big Guard"

Posted by: SaffireWeapon 17th April 2010 07:21
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Offense

It has to be Beta for me.

Really? Not Trine? I suppose it is your opinion though...

Well, if you take into consideration the MP cost then Trine is better.

Magic Breath is also one of my favorites.

Posted by: legendary Soldier 1st June 2010 05:12
shadow flare has been a great one. flare has been one of my favorite spells altogether

Posted by: FinalFantasyAoibh 22nd February 2012 15:45
1. White Wind because it's a very good restorative spell.
2. Big Guard because it was much easier to acquire than levelling up Time materia and it casts haste at the same time.
3. Magic Hammer - handy before W-Item came along for one short of gil.
And for an attacking skill.....
4. Trine or Aqualung - I can't decide which.

Oh for simply looking cool Matra Magic. biggrin.gif Always thought it was cool since Rufus first used it on me, but it's too weak further on in the game dry.gif

Posted by: Kjelfalconer 23rd February 2012 22:47
Curious, no mention of ????... ?

For, what, 2mp, it could deal some serious damage, even if it was a pain to get. I also seem to recall Pandora's box. Sure, you only got it on disc 3, but it was even more powerful than magic breath.

Really, most enemy skills were good in the right situation. Except Goblin Punch and Roulette. They always sucked.

Posted by: Reod Dai 25th February 2012 01:10
The obvious ones are Big Guard, Beta, and White Wind. Those three are useful in almost any situation for a large portion of the game. Trine and Aqualung give Beta a run for its money at times (like if something is immune to fire), but Beta is usually more powerful. If you acquire it when you first have the opportunity, it's ludicrously overpowered and can annihilate almost anything for a very long time afterwards.

Later on, Angel Whisper is an incredible addition to the Enemy Skill materia, and both Shadow Flare and Pandora's Box are pretty badass. Magic Hammer has its uses.

Posted by: Suchirueru 27th February 2012 16:20
Im always a big fan of Big Guard as it gives ya both barriers AND haste to all characters!! Quite hard to beat!!! Especialy if used with Regen!! thumbup.gif

Posted by: Ejoty 2nd March 2012 02:40
It seems most people like White Wind, Big Guard, Trine, Beta, and a few others. I'm with you guys there, and I'm also with everyone who likes Shadow Flare because it looks cool. I also love anything non-elemental.

I'd like to add that Pandora's Box ignores defense. This means you can use it on anything, including Ruby!! Of course, you want KotR, but it says a lot about how useful Pandora's box is.

I also think that Square meant for Enemy Skill to be one of the most rewarding parts of the gameplay. I mean, consider the amount of damage done by spells like Trine and Beta per MP spent, then compare them to the Bolt and Fire spells. Enemy Skill is the most efficient, you get spells that affect all targets without any All materia, plus a ton of variety. Just a little patience and a little Manipulation gain the world for you.

Then again, I was a little sore at them for not including that Aero spell. I got over it about a decade ago though.

Posted by: FinalFantasyAoibh 3rd March 2012 00:07
Quote (Kjelfalconer @ 23rd February 2012 22:47)
Curious, no mention of ????... ?

For, what, 2mp, it could deal some serious damage, even if it was a pain to get. I also seem to recall Pandora's box. Sure, you only got it on disc 3, but it was even more powerful than magic breath.

Really, most enemy skills were good in the right situation. Except Goblin Punch and Roulette. They always sucked.

Yeah I don't know why but it was an enemy skill I just never used that much in the end seen as there was so much variety. I mean upon completion of the game my characters attacks were almost always 9999 and with double cut mastered and equipped, it wasn't really needed. Never mind the usual ultima and quadra magic combo and the other materia!

Posted by: DragonKnight Zero 14th March 2012 01:19
My favorites seem to be the utility spells.

White Wind for defeating Ghost Ships in one move (cast it on them)
Frog Song dishes out frog and sleep 100% unless the target is immune and it costs less MP than casting the two statuses through the Magic command. This lets me progress reliably through the special battle since all except Ho-chu and Proud Clod are vulnerable to sleep.
L4 Suicide is a fantastic tool for weakening Unknown 3 and Serpent for morphing into sources. Also handy for dispatching Dragons if encountered as the last opponent in Battle Square pre-Highwind. Combine with Frog Song's sleep for faster results.
Death Force is the least resource intensive tool for handling Master Tonberry safely as Everybody's Grudge is a controllable counter This skill also neuters Gargoyle's death counter and random Death Dealer nonsense..

Posted by: fffanbrit 17th March 2012 14:18
One of my favourites was Magic Breath. It was a useful skill for dispatching large numbers of weak foes quickly, and the graphical effects were pretty cool too. Big Guard and White Wind (later Angel Whisper) were useful too in boss battles, although Big Guard's combination of Haste with Barrier and M.Barrier caused the barriers to run down a little quickly.

Posted by: Locke_Cole 17th March 2012 22:21
Gotta go with Trine because you get it early enough to be useful and it's pretty amazing throughout the game.

Posted by: TerraFlare 5th May 2012 15:30
Gotta be Beta... Cloud LVL 16-17 to get it... its ridiculously fun to attempt it at that level... Midgar Zollem is a beast... and it will make you a boss killer

Posted by: Iscariot 10th May 2012 16:33
Trine was definitely my most used enemy skill, aside from maybe Matra Magic. Both were an all-hit offensive spell that could do decent damage at the time. Trine was really nice because you had all (or at least 3) of the 4 enemy skill materias, and could learn it for all of them at the Materia Keeper boss battle.

Posted by: yelanates 4th June 2012 23:21
I prefer Aqualung over Trine or Beta. It costs more MP, but I find it to be more powerful against a wider range of enemies. I could be wrong and/or imagining it, though.

Posted by: TrueBOSS 27th June 2012 09:18
Beta is still one of my fave's and so is trine. In my last playthrough i mastered the enemy skill materia for the first time and was sad by how much awesomeness i missed out on when i beat it as a kid. Made up for it though tongue.gif

Posted by: iSeizmik 2nd July 2012 02:02
Quote (TerraFlare @ 5th May 2012 15:30)
Gotta be Beta... Cloud LVL 16-17 to get it... its ridiculously fun to attempt it at that level... Midgar Zollem is a beast... and it will make you a boss killer

You can get Beta much sooner than that!

Grab the Fire Ring from the Costa Del Sol basement and you can get it even on a low level game(lvl 6 Tifa, for example).

Posted by: TrueBOSS 2nd July 2012 08:13
i always get beta the moment your able to fight midgar zolum. all i do is i put all the characters in the back row with sadness and make sure they have full limit break bars before the fight also give the character with the enemy skill elemental def materia in the armor slot with fire materia. keep their health up while poisoning the zolum asap. when he beta's use the character's limit immediately and hope it kills it before your character dies.

Posted by: justNano 13th September 2012 10:03
I see everyon saying beta and find that i actually prefer aqualung. I find that more enemies asorb or nullify fire than water, so i prefer it ^^ Also trine is also useful but if you miss it in nieblehiem (sorry for the spelling) its not great once you can finally get it again.

Posted by: NoSocialGroup 19th September 2012 07:52
Everyone loves good ole Big Guard and White Wind. I'd say my favorite though is ???? for Gold Saucer battles because of it's low MP usage and discreet attack pointage (unaffected by magic or weapon breaks).

Posted by: omnislash5209 17th October 2012 01:00
Probaby gonna have to go with matra magic. got more mileage outta it than most of them

Posted by: BlackFlag 19th January 2014 00:15
The Beta skill is named for beta radiation. The graphics for the kill resemble a nuclear mushroom cloud when viewed from the right angle.

Posted by: Archeosaur 1st February 2014 00:19
Matra Magic is pretty useful earlier on and against weaker foes, but I'd say Big Guard is my favourite for most battles.

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