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How easy or hard is it to 'seal' Kefka?

Posted: 10th January 2016 05:45

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If any of you played Final Fantasy V, you already know that Exdeath was sealed, and that the events in the beginning of the game are all about him unsealing himself. The thing implied in the story of the game is, Exdeath was too powerful and kept coming back that the Warriors of Dawn had to seal him. They couldn't kill him off.

So my question here is, how easy or hard is it to seal Kefka in the same sense? In my opinion, I feel that even a god-Kefka is just nothing compared to Exdeath in his usual form. He'd most probably get killed if he was to be sealed instead of killed. But I don't know. One of my friends on Skype tells me that Kefka is so powerful that he can't be sealed, though we occasionally go saying either Exdeath or Kefka is the better villain as a kind of a lighthearted jabbing at each other.



Oh of course, I didn't forget my screenshots play of Final Fantasy V, just that I didn't have the time for it, weaving around college work like mad.



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Posted: 10th January 2016 17:48

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I don't think it's about the relative power of the villain; it's more about the capability of the protagonists to carry out a seal. In Kefka's case, they had neither the ability or the time to even consider sealing his power. And it's not to mention that, like the situation with Exdeath, sealing him would have only been a temporary fix to the problem.

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Posted: 10th January 2016 21:08

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Quote (BlitzSage @ 10th January 2016 19:48)
I don't think it's about the relative power of the villain; it's more about the capability of the protagonists to carry out a seal. In Kefka's case, they had neither the ability or the time to even consider sealing his power. And it's not to mention that, like the situation with Exdeath, sealing him would have only been a temporary fix to the problem.

I think that at this point in the game where the protagonists fight him, the heroes were just simply too powerful, and Kefka held back his flinging powers for some reason. At this point, killing him was a much more easier matter than sealing him for a future party to vanquish him.

I'm not really asking what would happen after Kefka is sealed though, as much as I'm interested in knowing if sealing Kefka is a possibility given his current power as well as the current power of the player party (remember this is the same party who scaled his tower, defeated three weakened but still powerful goddesses along with other bosses, and then climbed the tower that represented his boss fight one by one).

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Posted: 11th January 2016 00:33

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I guess I'll use a spoiler tab.

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It might be possible, if Terra and the combined power of the party's Magicite. After all, the Three Goddesses were able to use their power to freeze one another to end the war, I imagine that their creations, the Espers, would also have similar abilities. If they weakened Kefka, even destroyed the Three Goddesses as part of his Dancing Mad form, they could have used the last of Terra's power to seal him.

The question would then be if magic could still be used, or if balance would be upheld. I don't know the answers to those questions. To answer that you would have to know whether the Three Goddesses were conscious as they were frozen.


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Posted: 11th January 2016 09:34

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Quote (BlitzSage @ 11th January 2016 02:33)
I guess I'll use a spoiler tab.

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It might be possible, if Terra and the combined power of the party's Magicite. After all, the Three Goddesses were able to use their power to freeze one another to end the war, I imagine that their creations, the Espers, would also have similar abilities. If they weakened Kefka, even destroyed the Three Goddesses as part of his Dancing Mad form, they could have used the last of Terra's power to seal him.

The question would then be if magic could still be used, or if balance would be upheld. I don't know the answers to those questions. To answer that you would have to know whether the Three Goddesses were conscious as they were frozen.

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I believe that whether the goddesses were conscious during their seal-time or not doesn't matter much. After all, magic was flowing in the world with them sealed even, and they were alive to put up a fight before Kefka danced mad.

And if I were to take into fact that the Final Fantasy worlds do share similarities between each other, I would perhaps say that the goddesses were conscious, based on the fact that a sealed Exdeath was conscious.

So if Kefka was sealed, magic would probably still flow within the world. Only instead of three statues placed in a balance that if broken would ruin the world, the power of magic would be centered around one statue. Though if moving that statue would cause a second World of Ruin or not would also be lovely material to talk about, but we'd also talk about whether the unsealed goddesses caused imbalance to the world as they fought everytime they moved in order to know that.

As for balance returning to the world upon the idea of sealing him, I believe that's possible. If I take Valigarmanda's comment about the World of Ruin, it isn't much different than what happened during the War of the Magi. With the war ending by the goddesses sealing themselves, it would be probable that sealing Kefka will let the world to slowly re-balance itself again. The problem would then be maintaining the seal so that when Kefka is released someway or another, that he doesn't ruin the world with him again.


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Posted: 12th January 2016 18:26

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It kind of sounds like you're asking who is more powerful here indirectly. I think ExDeath is in my opinion. Kefka is a schemer and has a lot of power he stole but thats about it. ExDeath was all he needed to be throughout most of the game and had the power to seep his powers through a seal held by the 4 crystals themselves to influence people into breaking the seal. I don't think Kefka would have been capable of pulling this off under similar circumstances. I also think Kefka isn't in complete control of himself and ExDeath has total control over himself (at least until the end)

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Posted: 12th January 2016 20:10

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You may say that no problem, I too believe that Exdeath is simply more powerful. However, if you imply that Kefka is simply less adequate to do what Exdeath was able to do even if he was sealed, then I bet that means Kefka can be easily sealed if the party actually chose to do it instead of killing him off granted that they learnt how to seal him. Is that right or am I missing something vital?

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