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Posted: 14th October 2011 13:30

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Or at least, it's begun. I wanted to get a piece from my favorite final fantasy for years and could not figure out what to get. I knew it had to be related to Kain and Paladin Cecil, and then I ran across a photo that I've had on my external for a number of years.


http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs17/f/2007/173..._vinny_vieh.jpg


I took this and met with my regular artist and told him we should play with it and make it better, so he came up with this. The finished product will be available for photograph in about one week.
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I always enjoy showing you guys my new tattoos. Haha.

Soooooooo?????

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Posted: 14th October 2011 19:18

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The dark blue hair doesn't fit paladin!Cecil that well, but Kain looks boss.

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Posted: 14th October 2011 21:23

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Quote (Glenn Magus Harvey @ 14th October 2011 14:18)
The dark blue hair doesn't fit paladin!Cecil that well, but Kain looks boss.

It's true to the source, though, so whatcha gonna do?

Something about Cecil looks more feminine than in the source. I think the nose is the culprit. Other than that, looks pretty good so far, but on something like this you'll definitely need to see the finished product to be sure, heh.

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Posted: 15th October 2011 00:17

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Pretty hardcore, man! That's a good tattoo artist.

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Posted: 15th October 2011 06:17

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While I just used the source as a draft I still found that cecil's platinum hair cannot be easily reproduced and may fade quickly. There was no shading done this sitting, only outline. So insure you can see how difficult that would have been. I chose to to stick with blue partially because I'm building a half sleeve on my arm that will end in blue and connect with Cecil.

I also see the added feminine look R51. I'm not sure if it will remain, but if Mike does keep him that way it won't disappoint me, as his Paladin form is fairly less masculine.

I'm really excited to see the finished product of Kain though!!

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Posted: 15th October 2011 10:37

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This is looking amazing! Love the blue. Can't wait to see it completely done. Especially with the sleeve!

You're a brave person to get a tattoo on your back, haha. Pain!

I think if the eyebrow were more gruff, it'd help with the femininity. His eyebrow looks very well scuplted haha.

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Posted: 15th October 2011 16:46

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Thanks for the input! I will discuss with my artist the idea of altering Cecil's brow.

Also, am curious what you guys think about the shading of Cecil's eyes. I'm thinking of having color them solid white. And with Kain do you think I should go with the purple shading, or add some green hue in there?

http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy/image...lean_FMV_DS.jpg

Or
http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/098...nzo-d3dhh7f.jpg

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/KAIN-Final-Fantasy-...1ylRtQ~~_35.JPG




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Posted: 15th October 2011 19:04

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I think Kain has the green tint to his hair. If you see the image of his battle sprite from FFIV After years....

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/index.php?ti...KainBattle2-PNG

Edit: Or Dissida 012.

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2011...n_No_Helmet.png

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Posted: 16th October 2011 13:07

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He always looked like a blond to me. The photo from Dissidia looks blond and so are all the others that I've seen of him with his mask off...

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Posted: 17th October 2011 03:57

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Quote (Sephiroth @ 15th October 2011 01:17)
While I just used the source as a draft I still found that cecil's platinum hair cannot be easily reproduced and may fade quickly. There was no shading done this sitting, only outline. So insure you can see how difficult that would have been. I chose to to stick with blue partially because I'm building a half sleeve on my arm that will end in blue and connect with Cecil.

Ahh, I see. Fair enough. It is a bit odd since Paladin Cecil's color scheme is basically white and Kain's color scheme is basically light blue, so seeing Cecil as dark blue and Kain as plain/white with red tint is a bit odd.

Yes, Kain does look like he has blond hair, from those pictures. However, the a slight tint of green along with light blue might work for your tattoo if you want color. Though those are rather non-badass colors...

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Posted: 26th October 2011 03:46

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Still not finished, but we did this tonight. Mike took into account the comments on here about the blue hair and is adding some platinum to balance it a little.

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Posted: 26th October 2011 13:29

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Yeah, it does look about twenty times better now that it has some of the color done, and the hair is much improved as well.

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Posted: 26th October 2011 16:13

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Holy crap that looks badass. As R51 puts it, yes, it does look much better with the color.

Also, for some reason Paladin!Cecil looks more manly now.

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Posted: 11th November 2011 03:08

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So I finally got it finished today.

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The ink looks a little darker in this photo and that may have to do with the amount of blood that involved in this sitting. I will post a follow up when it heals. Thanks for the feed back guys. Hope you all like the final product.

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Posted: 18th June 2012 08:22

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Well this is long overdue! I have a picture of the healed final product and I must say that I'm really happy with it. Anyone care to take a stab at what I ended up paying for this whole thing? haha

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Posted: 18th June 2012 23:49

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Looks impressive. And my guess is around $300, but im probably overestimating big time.
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Posted: 19th June 2012 10:56

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Actually, you're pretty close. I paid $250 for it.

I mean no offense when I say that judging by your estimate, I'm guessing you probably don't have any tattoos, as this piece would have easily been more than $1,200 had I not been close friends with the artist. He charges $150 per hour (that's looking at the piece before it's started and guessing how long it will take) and if I remember right, it took just over 10 and 1/2 hours.

I live in a fairly small city and the majority of artists here charge around $100 per hour. I had another artist in the same shop guess that I had paid $1,500, as he said that's what he would have charged.

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Posted: 19th June 2012 21:11

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I don't have any tattoos, but some of those numbers are pretty high though.
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Posted: 20th June 2012 07:26

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Quote (GamblingCat @ 19th June 2012 16:11)
I don't have any tattoos, but some of those numbers are pretty high though.

I don't know, man. Considering the going rate for good art in the city.. Well.. I've price checked in larger cities before (I live in Texas and have checked in Austin and Dallas) I met the guy who does my work now and many of the better artists there charge even more. My current artist has worked in multiple shops in LA, Miama, and the Dallas area and he told me he had to lower his prices when he came here in order to get business, since the price of living is quite lower here. The numbers I mentioned are actually quite low..

Honestly, if someone had quoted me $300 for this piece in another shop where I didn't know anyone, I would have turned around and walked out, as the natural reaction there is that their art wouldn't be worth permanently having.

This discussion for example, highlights some of the prices in larger cities.. And like I said, this piece in the photos took three sitings and a total of just under 11 hours. (Also, the question is two years old and prices have increased a bit since then.)

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...20202931AA8MW0l

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Posted: 29th June 2012 08:42

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nice man. if there would be anything that'd make me break me wanting to never get a tattoo it'd be Final Fantasy. although if i had gotten this it'd of looked for the dark knight version of Cecil to put on the right and tried to get a sinister image of golbez above/behind the 2.

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