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Basically its a contest where only one game gets the heck out of it. The kicker here is that most Final Fantasy titles from VI and above (with IV as the exception) are participating, and all of them are making their rivals kiss the contest goodbye. None of them were kicked, yet.

Visit www.gamefaqs.com at any time and you'll see a voting box in the front page, and if you come in today, you'll see the box arts of both Final Fantasy VI and Final Fantasy VII. Both of them are currently rivaling Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door and Halo Combat Evolved, respectively.

It is interesting to note that Final Fantasy X has defeated both Half-Dead and Mega Man X, while the others still didn't finish the 2nd round. Other things includes that Halo Combat Evolved, current rival to Final Fantasy VII, beat Minecraft to a pulp, most of Valve's games (the very few ones that are good that is, and not the terrible other steamed shooters, and I don't count Half-Dead 2 as a good game) were knocked out on the first round with the exception of Half-Dead 2 (most interesting is that Portal 2 lost to SEGA's Sonic the Hedgehog 2), no Metal Gear Solid title has lost yet, and Fellout titles are also winning.

What do you think of the contest?

This post has been edited by Pooka on 22nd November 2015 05:41

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I think it is a joke and always has been. Bunch of fanboys wanking over their favorite games.

Everyone knows that Shadow of the Colossus is the best game ever made. We need to stop fooling ourselves.

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Its fun to see how things play themselves out though. As is said, not a single Final Fantasy lost a battle, which is cute enough to look at.

Let's wait as we this Shadow of the Colossus gets it way into victory.

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They've been doing this for years and it is literally the same "contest" every year. The same games beat the same games and the same games end up in the final spots. It is probably the least interesting thing on the internet. Seriously. It isn't fun.

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Might not be for me since I've just found it recently and never learnt of it before. Yeah, I may agree on the same games bit if only from the dimension that games from platforms as old as SNES titles are mixed and matched along with PS4 and Xbox One and Wii U titles.

By the way, what same games end up in the final spots? I'd like names of a potential future winner.

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Usually comes down to:

Final Fantasy VII

A Link to the Past

Ocarina of Time

Final Fantasy VI

Haven't checked it out in years. Throw, Chrono Trigger, MGS3, Mario 3, Majora's Mask in there.

The worst thing about the lists is popular opinion always rules. My experience tells me popular opinion should mean the game is great, but over-rated. Most people don't have a true sense of what "greatness" actually is.

For example. Almost every single Zelda game gets universal 10/10 scores from everywhere, yet what is arguably the best in the series, The Wind Waker, generally received some of the lowest scores (but still generally in the 90th percentile) out of the main games in the series and the biggest criticisms of the game, it's cell-shaded graphics and massive over-world, are actually some of it's greatest strengths. The Wind Waker is a feat, yet at the same time, the entire series is grossly over-rated. It is literally the same game over and over (except the second NES game), especially since Ocarina of Time. Yet, when the time comes for the Wind Waker to go up against Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask, forget about it, it has no chance.

What Zelda games try to be is what Shadow of the Colossus is. Okami is also another game that takes the same formula and does a much, much better job yet since these games are "influenced" by the Zelda games, most people act as if they wouldn't have happened without Zelda in the first place, which is absurd. It would be the same as saying if the Beatles never happened, Rock music would have never been the same. But another band would have taken their place at some point and caused the same groundbreaking effects on "popular" music.

Another game that generally makes the final 4 or 8 is Halo. Literally, a cookie-cutter FPS with Sci-Fi elements. There is nothing genre-defining about any of the Halo games, yet people constantly blow their load over them.

Suspiciously absent from the final games, or in general, are the original Fallout and Fallout 2, Planescape Torment, Sanitarium, KoTOR II and the original Blood Omen: The Legacy of Kain, all deeply philosophical or allegoric games that are more sophisticated and ground-breaking than their peers, predecessors or sequels. These games constantly make you question your own choices and are full of emotion and some of the best writing in video-game history. Planescape Torment especially is one of the top 3 videogames ever created, yet most people have never even heard of it.

Not to mention the games that go up against each other. MGS4 up against Kingdom Hearts II? So, fan service crap against a game that is incredibly relevant and philosophical? The whole thing is a load of crap and just there for click-bait.

If popular opinion and mass voting declares a game the "best ever", chances are, it isn't.


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Well I guess this is something worth watching for election geeks since the election season is over. Last big one was yesterday, the race for governor of Louisiana. (Won by Democratic State Rep. John Bel Edwards, who defeated Republican U.S. Senator David Vitter, in case you were wondering.)

This post has been edited by Glenn Magus Harvey on 23rd November 2015 04:56

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I was gonna come in and be snotty about this sort of yearly thing, but I just saw that Dynamic Threads showed up first and was snottier about it than any level I could have gotten to anyway. That's not to say I actually agree with him - my level of apathy towards the concept is such that I couldn't actually get nearly as angry as he appears to be.

Really, if you're gonna do a clickbait contest, you need to do a cool one. Like for Final Fantasy music.

Also, John Bel Edwards is my new governor, that right-leaning DINO. But that's neither here nor there.



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Quote (Rangers51 @ 25th November 2015 15:00)

I was gonna come in and be snotty about this sort of yearly thing, but I just saw that Dynamic Threads showed up first and was snottier about it than any level I could have gotten to anyway. That's not to say I actually agree with him - my level of apathy towards the concept is such that I couldn't actually get nearly as angry as he appears to be.

Really, if you're gonna do a clickbait contest, you need to do a cool one. Like for Final Fantasy music.

Also, John Bel Edwards is my new governor, that right-leaning DINO. But that's neither here nor there.

Speaking of which, it's been five years, time for another one?

What is this weird obsession with Ocarina of Time? Every time gamefaqs has one of these, it's always up there in the top 5 or in first. I love zelda and I do like Ocarina of Time, but I wouldn't call it the best game ever, not by a long shot. I wouldn't even put in the top zelda games. Is it all about nostalgia? Every time I try and talk to someone who praises it, they never have anything intriguing to say about it. Just that it's "The Best" and that I "don't get it" and I HONESTLY DO NOT GET IT! Can someone explain!? -loses his mind-

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Ocarina is quite a trendsetter. It was the first time a 3D game felt possible to control, if you ask me.

But the "best game ever" is stretching it a bit, I think. The jankiness of early 3D is in full force, and the animation frame rate is nothing to write home about.

I dunno if I could pick a best game ever, but final fantasy vi is my favorite. In fact, I kind of got my ass whooped at it the other day...I think I'll go take it to school. Stupid ninjas on the floating continent...

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I was gonna come in and be snotty about this sort of yearly thing, but I just saw that Dynamic Threads showed up first and was snottier about it than any level I could have gotten to anyway. That's not to say I actually agree with him - my level of apathy towards the concept is such that I couldn't actually get nearly as angry as he appears to be.

Really, if you're gonna do a clickbait contest, you need to do a cool one. Like for Final Fantasy music.

Also, John Bel Edwards is my new governor, that right-leaning DINO. But that's neither here nor there.

Yesterday I woke up sucking on a lemon. And by yesterday, I mean today and by today, I mean everyday and by that I mean I am a bitter bastard with an odd sense of humor.



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The Best Game Ever would be Final Fantasy V! Oh jeez, why is the game not there. Anyways, Final Fantasy VIII, Tactics, XII and IV are owned as we speak. VIII and Tactics both have their fates of loss set in stone, XII and IV are walking down that route. I sure hope Ocarina of Time just fails to catch up. It is in no way a best game ever... well I'm not sure what is either.

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Quote (Pooka @ 26th November 2015 01:45)

The Best Game Ever would be Final Fantasy V! Oh jeez, why is the game not there. Anyways, Final Fantasy VIII, Tactics, XII and IV are owned as we speak. VIII and Tactics both have their fates of loss set in stone, XII and IV are walking down that route. I sure hope Ocarina of Time just fails to catch up. It is in no way a best game ever... well I'm not sure what is either.

Already told you, its Shadow of the Colossus : P

But honestly, do some searching and you'll find most people who know anything about videogames consider Planescape: Torment to be the best game ever made. Do yourself a favor and go get it on GOG or something. It's like 7 bucks.

I can't say it is. There are so many different kinds of games that to name ONE game the best ever is kind of ridiculous. But Torment is one of the most emotionally captivating games of all time, if not the most and for an RPG dungeon crawler, the focus isn't on combat but dialogue. And trust me, there is more than enough of that to go around in Torment. It makes MGS's long-winded conversations look pedestrian.

I keep saying Shadow of the Colossus, but for a PS2 game, the scale is phenomenal. You have a massive world with massive creatures that tells a story not through dialogue, but the player's actions. It takes the whole Zelda concept and turns it on it's head. Incredible graphics for the time, simple but great gameplay and some incredible ambiance. Very few games have brought a tear to my eye, but this one did. The ending is one of the best ever and it has one of the greatest twists in videogame history. I really have a hard time finding a flaw with this game, still to this day and that's one of my deciding factors.

I'm not shy about my praise for FFVIII, either. It is a daring game. The whole thing is based around a time-loop concept that is incredibly hard to grasp, has a unique battle-system and is very female-centric for a mainstream videogame. Sometimes being a trope isn't a bad thing, especially when most of the characters are around 18 years old and unlike most games, you have a main character who is constantly questioning everything going on around him. Very philosophical, under-rated game.

Fallout 2 is more and more relevant as time goes on. It took the great concept of Fallout and improved in every way. A surprisingly fun, turn-based battle system, great graphics for the time, great voice acting and dialogue that makes the newer games look adolescent in comparison and it is very, very self-aware. With topics of racism, class and war central throughout, genetic engineering and terrorism, the allegory has never been stronger. Add in hundreds of nods to movies such as Monty Python films, The Wizard of Oz and Dr. Strangelove and you have one of the most humorous, well-written games of all time with a very serious under-tone.

And really, Pokemon X/Y are incredible. Playing with and feeding your Pokemon, building their trust and friendship, breeding and raising them, the games have never been stronger and the sense of bonding with your Pokemons has never been better. Sometime I turn the game on just to pet my Dunsparce and feed it. I'm 70 hours into my current game and most of it has been breeding and raising Pokemon. The battle system has been perfected, especially in-game, where your Pokemon can dodge attacks, shake-off status effects, land critical hits and survive multiple KO's with 1 HP left based on how much they love you.

But I'm just rambling on now and that's just it. Arguing about what the GREATEST game of all time may be is truly subjective. And any website or person claiming to have an answer is missing the point.

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Quote (Dynamic Threads @ 26th November 2015 19:23)

But honestly, do some searching and you'll find most people who know anything about videogames consider Planescape: Torment to be the best game ever made. Do yourself a favor and go get it on GOG or something. It's like 7 bucks.

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I can't say it is. There are so many different kinds of games that to name ONE game the best ever is kind of ridiculous. But Torment is one of the most emotionally captivating games of all time, if not the most and for an RPG dungeon crawler, the focus isn't on combat but dialogue. And trust me, there is more than enough of that to go around in Torment. It makes MGS's long-winded conversations look pedestrian.

Yes, there is simply too many games to name as the one best ever, and not only that but too many genres. I could argue that Minecraft is the best game ever because it allows you to do what you want, but then I'd be smacked by someone else who believes that Sonic is the best thing ever because the platforming is fast and fun and then be smacked by another who claims that Final Fantasy is the best because the games are huge worlds with lots to do, etc. And then here comes the best individual of them, who will claim that there is simply no best game to name objectively. So I can say you're very right. Unfortunately, looking at the screenshots of the game, it seems to be that one genre that I can't properly enjoy yet, or one that isn't in my tastes. I won't deny what you said though.

Quote (Dynamic Threads @ 26th November 2015 19:23)

I'm not shy about my praise for FFVIII, either. It is a daring game. The whole thing is based around a time-loop concept that is incredibly hard to grasp, has a unique battle-system and is very female-centric for a mainstream videogame. Sometimes being a trope isn't a bad thing, especially when most of the characters are around 18 years old and unlike most games, you have a main character who is constantly questioning everything going on around him. Very philosophical, under-rated game.

I really enjoyed Final Fantasy VIII myself. The story's great, the system is as good as Final Fantasy is always good at them, and yes, the whole sorceresses thingy was a lovely concept. Also Squall's and Rinoa's character. The only problem is that the final boss didn't really get much development.

Quote (Dynamic Threads @ 26th November 2015 19:23)

But I'm just rambling on now and that's just it. Arguing about what the GREATEST game of all time may be is truly subjective. And any website or person claiming to have an answer is missing the point.

It is as you say. There is no best game ever in a serious matter. Games are meant to be enjoyed. The problem with our current generation though is that they seem to be concerned if their game was 720p instead of 1080p and 30fps instead of 60fps and all they care about is to have blindingly ultra graphics at the cost of gameplay, and then take into console and PC wars instead of, you know, enjoying what they have.

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If I remember right, game informer said that the original legend of zelda was the #1 in a top 100 list of the greatest games of all time they did awhile back. My personal favorite is either the Link to the Past or WInd Waker. It changes back and forth. Ocarina doesn't deserve that title and I'd be very disappointed if someone tries to say any Halo does. 7 at it's prime might but I feel that nearly 20 years has brought us great contenders to take that away. It makes me sad that I didn't even hear tales of symphonia on that list. That game was very deep and it drew me in and made me feel for the characters in ways I hadn't since Final Fantasy's 7-10. Plus it actually did what 7 and 10 just teased at. Let you pick which girl the main guy hooks up with in the end. (until Radiant Dawn put a wrench in the whole thing)

I almost forgot to mention that I'm glad Paper Mario the 1000 year door got some distance. That game was surprisingly good for what I was expecting.

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I wasn't looking in the past few days, but seems most of the Final Fantasy titles were kicked off the game. No, most would be an understatement, as ALL the games were removed, with the exception of VII.

And Final Fantasy VI was slain by Final Fantasy VII. Oh my! Other than that, it seems the Legends of Zelda are winning, and its almost the finals.

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Quote (Pooka @ 27th November 2015 09:40)

Quote (Dynamic Threads @ 26th November 2015 19:23)

But honestly, do some searching and you'll find most people who know anything about videogames consider Planescape: Torment to be the best game ever made. Do yourself a favor and go get it on GOG or something. It's like 7 bucks.

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Quote (Dynamic Threads @ 26th November 2015 19:23)

I can't say it is. There are so many different kinds of games that to name ONE game the best ever is kind of ridiculous. But Torment is one of the most emotionally captivating games of all time, if not the most and for an RPG dungeon crawler, the focus isn't on combat but dialogue. And trust me, there is more than enough of that to go around in Torment. It makes MGS's long-winded conversations look pedestrian.

Yes, there is simply too many games to name as the one best ever, and not only that but too many genres. I could argue that Minecraft is the best game ever because it allows you to do what you want, but then I'd be smacked by someone else who believes that Sonic is the best thing ever because the platforming is fast and fun and then be smacked by another who claims that Final Fantasy is the best because the games are huge worlds with lots to do, etc. And then here comes the best individual of them, who will claim that there is simply no best game to name objectively. So I can say you're very right. Unfortunately, looking at the screenshots of the game, it seems to be that one genre that I can't properly enjoy yet, or one that isn't in my tastes. I won't deny what you said though.

Quote (Dynamic Threads @ 26th November 2015 19:23)

I'm not shy about my praise for FFVIII, either. It is a daring game. The whole thing is based around a time-loop concept that is incredibly hard to grasp, has a unique battle-system and is very female-centric for a mainstream videogame. Sometimes being a trope isn't a bad thing, especially when most of the characters are around 18 years old and unlike most games, you have a main character who is constantly questioning everything going on around him. Very philosophical, under-rated game.

I really enjoyed Final Fantasy VIII myself. The story's great, the system is as good as Final Fantasy is always good at them, and yes, the whole sorceresses thingy was a lovely concept. Also Squall's and Rinoa's character. The only problem is that the final boss didn't really get much development.

Quote (Dynamic Threads @ 26th November 2015 19:23)

But I'm just rambling on now and that's just it. Arguing about what the GREATEST game of all time may be is truly subjective. And any website or person claiming to have an answer is missing the point.

It is as you say. There is no best game ever in a serious matter. Games are meant to be enjoyed. The problem with our current generation though is that they seem to be concerned if their game was 720p instead of 1080p and 30fps instead of 60fps and all they care about is to have blindingly ultra graphics at the cost of gameplay, and then take into console and PC wars instead of, you know, enjoying what they have.

What about ultima underworld vampire the masquerade redemption and the elder scrolls series? These games added a lot.Sure, vampire the masquerade looks dated now and the difficulty is ridiculous, but the concept of becoming a mindless vampire is amazing, forcing you to be careful or you lose your humanity.You can even get a bad ending.

Ultima underworld was amazing because it was in first person view and could mark your map and drop items, and Americans have been in my opinion a larger trend setter than Japanese, who a lot of times follow the same formula in turn based combat.

Secret of mana secret of evermore was certainly different though, considering it was the first time I saw real time combat RPGs, even if both of those games were indee flawed.

Elder scrolls series in the 90s allowed you to play in real time and run around and interact and steal and murder people, which feels great.Thing that sucks is:Elder scrolls 2 is really glitchy

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Elder scrolls series in the 90s allowed you to play in real time and run around and interact and steal and murder people, which feels great.Thing that sucks is:Elder scrolls 2 is really glitchy

Lol, are any of bethesda's games not glitchy?

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Quote (Magitek_slayer @ 10th December 2015 05:57)

Elder scrolls series in the 90s allowed you to play in real time and run around and interact and steal and murder people, which feels great.Thing that sucks is:Elder scrolls 2 is really glitchy

Lol, are any of bethesda's games not glitchy?

Bethesda: paid mods, lots of DRM, and even more glitches... hmmm, yeah.

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